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Comments on news posted 2012-10-31 17:28:11: After Sandy flooded their 75 Broad Street offices and took out power, a hosting provider by the name of Peer 1 Hosting was forced to lug buckets of diesel fuel up seventeen flights of stairs to keep their backup generators operational. ..

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ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
kudos:1

Buckets?

Sounds like they were using non-approved gasoline containers? Buckets?


KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK

I admire the tenacity to even bother.

My guess is now they will look for a more permanent solution such as relocation of fuel pumps from the basement level. Most likely outside and elevated while enclosed.

Their updates suggest their fuel supply was exhausted and that they would be failing shortly. This was yesterday afternoon, so I assume they went dark.

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twizlar
I dont think so.
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join:2003-12-24
Brantford, ON
kudos:3

reply to ITALIAN926

Re: Buckets?

said by ITALIAN926:

Sounds like they were using non-approved gasoline containers? Buckets?

True, but its not gas its diesel.
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battleop

join:2005-09-28
00000

Small hosting provider?

20+ data centers is hardly small.


twizlar
I dont think so.
Premium
join:2003-12-24
Brantford, ON
kudos:3

reply to KrK

Re: I admire the tenacity to even bother.

They are still up and running, they have been carrying buckets up 17 floors for the past 28 hours or so.
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Broadline Networks Inc.


pfak
Premium
join:2002-12-29
Vancouver, BC

Peer 1 (NOT Peer one) in't small, Karl

They're a pretty large provider and have a number of data centres in North America. They also host some pretty major sites.
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ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
kudos:1

reply to twizlar

Re: Buckets?

Ahhh , Diesel isnt explosive like gasoline, I never knew that.


KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK

reply to twizlar

Re: I admire the tenacity to even bother.

Wow.

Good for them.

daake07

join:2011-06-28
Kearney, NE

Poor planning on behalf of the hosting company.

This is what they deserve for not creating redundancy. I don't care how small you are, if you are hosting any data you must assume it is mission critical for someone and down time is not acceptable.

This is why people are trying to relocate data centers inland where the only issue is tornadoes and you can make a building to withstand that.


twizlar
I dont think so.
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join:2003-12-24
Brantford, ON
kudos:3

Redundancy for what? They have multiple datacenters throughout N/A. This is one site that is having the issues due to the flood.
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Broadline Networks Inc.



mmay149q
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Dallas, TX
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reply to daake07

said by daake07:

This is what they deserve for not creating redundancy. I don't care how small you are, if you are hosting any data you must assume it is mission critical for someone and down time is not acceptable.

Yeah, because you know, all those people on the coast without power, which is what is required to use the internet will really be dying to access all the websites this hosting company supports and hosts......

Just curious, do you think before you type?

Matt
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Seaboogers

join:2004-11-01
Sarasota, FL

said by mmay149q:

said by daake07:

This is what they deserve for not creating redundancy. I don't care how small you are, if you are hosting any data you must assume it is mission critical for someone and down time is not acceptable.

Yeah, because you know, all those people on the coast without power, which is what is required to use the internet will really be dying to access all the websites this hosting company supports and hosts......

Just curious, do you think before you type?

Matt

Uh...did you actually think before you typed this reponse? If I have to point out the ridiculousness of it, you have bigger problems to worry about.


Harddrive
Proud American and Infidel since 1968.
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join:2000-09-20
Phone Room
kudos:2

Hurricane of 1938.

Due to the Hurricane of 1938, most businesses in Providence RI moved their telco to the 2nd floor or higher. Maybe NYC businesses will learn from this storm and do the same because it will happen again.


exocet_cm
I am the law - Judge Dredd
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join:2003-03-23
New Orleans, LA
kudos:2

We learned...

Our offices are on the fourth floor of the NOPD building with generators and fuel supplies on the roof.


Subaru
1-3-2-4
Premium
join:2001-05-31
Greenwich, CT

wait..

Is this our provider now? The way you worded it sounds like it

talz13

join:2006-03-15
Avon, OH

reply to KrK

Re: I admire the tenacity to even bother.

Yes, the redundant (load balanced?) servers should be hosted in other areas of the country.

Just for my own education (we were working with some load balancer stuff at work), can you load balance load balancers? What happens if your load balancer goes offline? Is that something that you can really distribute across a geographic area?

watice

join:2008-11-01
New York, NY

reply to mmay149q

Re: Poor planning on behalf of the hosting company.

said by mmay149q:

said by daake07:

This is what they deserve for not creating redundancy. I don't care how small you are, if you are hosting any data you must assume it is mission critical for someone and down time is not acceptable.

Yeah, because you know, all those people on the coast without power, which is what is required to use the internet will really be dying to access all the websites this hosting company supports and hosts......

Just curious, do you think before you type?

Matt

not sure if this is a joke or not. Are you saying only east coast ppl without power normally access this hosting providers services? You are aware that the internet is worldwide, right? Bit confused here.

iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2

reply to Subaru

Re: wait..

Nope. DSLR is still hosted at nac.net.


cdru
Go Colts
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:7

reply to ITALIAN926

Re: Buckets?

said by ITALIAN926:

Ahhh , Diesel isnt explosive like gasoline, I never knew that.

Diesel only really burns very rapidly if it's atomized and then compressed, as in an engine. You can extinguish a cigarette or match if you drop it in a bucket of diesel fuel. Dumping it on an established fire or dropping a significant burning object (e.g. a rag lit on fire) will ignite it, but not the whooof that gasoline would cause. It just spreads around relatively slowly (as compared to gas) since it doesn't vaporize very fast.


cdru
Go Colts
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:7

reply to Harddrive

Re: Hurricane of 1938.

said by Harddrive:

Maybe NYC businesses will learn from this storm and do the same because it will happen again.

Or they move everything back down to the basement or ground floors because it won't happen again.

Knee jerk reaction would be to move it all up higher...until an earthquake happens and it all comes crashing back down.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

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