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Comments on news posted 2012-11-01 14:38:47: AT&T has jumped into the online storage market this week with a new service that allows users to store video and photos in the cloud using their mobile device. ..


JigglyWiggly

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Intersting

why not just get google drive for 10$
8744675

join:2000-10-10
Decatur, GA

Re: Intersting

Even more interesting is that it only costs 13 cents per GB to store data indefinitely, which consumes resources as long as it's stored, but it costs $10 a GB to transmit it there, which only uses resources momentarily during transmission.

Doesn't make sense. I bet the FCC will become very interested if they don't count that data against your cap.

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Re: Intersting

Great point.
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said by 8744675:

Even more interesting is that it only costs 13 cents per GB to store data indefinitely, which consumes resources as long as it's stored

Isn't that $0.13/mth, not indefinitely?

Oh_No
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join:2011-05-21
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Or just setup a shared drive at your home internet connection, then you have actual privacy for your data.
The workers for these online storage companies must have hours of fun go through files of their customers.

As for google drive and other online storage, I lol.
Very expensive yearly prices.
Google is $120 a year for 200GB. That is more than what XM radio costs.

I could see like $10 a year, but $10 a month is crazy.

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Lets see, 5GB free storage, 2GB data cap ?

WIN FOR AT&T, FAIL FOR THE CONSUMER....

This may help the average joe (consumer) notice just how there being blindsided by ATT's data caps and overages.

Unless ATT allows you unlimited usage and streaming from there cloud and it not count against your data package... LOL let me stop dreaming.

Nightfall
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Re: Lets see, 5GB free storage, 2GB data cap ?

said by buddahbless:

WIN FOR AT&T, FAIL FOR THE CONSUMER....

This may help the average joe (consumer) notice just how there being blindsided by ATT's data caps and overages.

Unless ATT allows you unlimited usage and streaming from there cloud and it not count against your data package... LOL let me stop dreaming.

I didn't see a data cap. Please link to your source.
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ptrowski
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Re: Lets see, 5GB free storage, 2GB data cap ?

I believe he is referring to your smartphone data plan.

Nightfall
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Re: Lets see, 5GB free storage, 2GB data cap ?

said by ptrowski:

I believe he is referring to your smartphone data plan.

I was looking at this as another Dropbox like application.
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BlueMagic

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ptrowski are you still here? Good to see you, my good man.

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Re: Lets see, 5GB free storage, 2GB data cap ?

said by BlueMagic:

ptrowski are you still here? Good to see you, my good man.

There goes the neighborhood!

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said by Nightfall:

I didn't see a data cap. Please link to your source.

Note I said Unless, However at the end of the press release read the fine print...

(AT&T Locker
Requires compatible iPhone 3GS or higher or Android 2.1 or higher smartphone, or internet access from computer. You must enable the Easy Upload feature in order for your content to be automatically uploaded to the AT&T cloud.

"""" Download and usage from wireless device may consume data.""""

Service intended for US based customers only. For terms, see att.com/wirelesslegal. )

Now Theres no mention that this will NOT count against your data it only mention that it MAY consume data. In those worded terms on there wireless network and not over wifi I speculate it will count.

Nightfall
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Re: Lets see, 5GB free storage, 2GB data cap ?

said by buddahbless:

said by Nightfall:

I didn't see a data cap. Please link to your source.

Note I said Unless, However at the end of the press release read the fine print...

(AT&T Locker
Requires compatible iPhone 3GS or higher or Android 2.1 or higher smartphone, or internet access from computer. You must enable the Easy Upload feature in order for your content to be automatically uploaded to the AT&T cloud.

"""" Download and usage from wireless device may consume data.""""

Service intended for US based customers only. For terms, see att.com/wirelesslegal. )

Now Theres no mention that this will NOT count against your data it only mention that it MAY consume data. In those worded terms on there wireless network and not over wifi I speculate it will count.

First off, its like Dropbox. I would speculate you are correct, but AT&T has been known to not count data that is used on AT&T services against the cap. I guess we will see how it all pans out.

For 5gb of free storage, this could be a good alternative to Dropbox or Sugarsync or Google Drive.
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Skippy25

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said by buddahbless:

"""" Download and usage from wireless device may consume data.""""

What exactly do they mean by "may consume data"?

Is there ever a time that you pass packets back and forth that it does not consume data?

Why do they not simply say Download and usage from wireless device WILL consume data?

Stating "MAY" is 100% false, stating "WILL" is 100% true.

aztecnology
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Re: Lets see, 5GB free storage, 2GB data cap ?

said by Skippy25:

said by buddahbless:

"""" Download and usage from wireless device may consume data.""""

What exactly do they mean by "may consume data"?

Is there ever a time that you pass packets back and forth that it does not consume data?

Why do they not simply say Download and usage from wireless device WILL consume data?

Stating "MAY" is 100% false, stating "WILL" is 100% true.

If I connect from my phone via WiFi or from my computer, how much data will I consume...?
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Re: Lets see, 5GB free storage, 2GB data cap ?

Depends, if you have at&t dsl or uverse, you still have the possibility of getting charged! lol! They got this down pat!
ISurfTooMuch

join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL

It'll become bloatware

I guarantee you that AT&T will include this app on all new Android devices they sell, and there won't be any way to uninstall it. And while the folks who know about cloud storage will use their service of choice, this will draw in the folks who don't know any better. And really, it doesn't appear that much worse than what's out there, so, when it's on every Android phone AT&T sells, it'll get customers just fine.

FBGuy
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focus

AT&T has ADHD.. cannot stay focused on core business.
openbox9
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Re: focus

Its core business is doing just fine. Time to generate additional revenue.

FBGuy
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Re: focus

they could stick to what they know and expand that just fine. they will fail at cloud storage.
openbox9
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Re: focus

I doubt AT&T will fail. It might not excel given the large number of players, but it likely won't fail. Why should a business not seek to expand?

FBGuy
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Re: focus

it's in the communications industry, right? why not stick to that theater at least?
openbox9
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Re: focus

It's in the technology industry.

FBGuy
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Re: focus

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT%26T
quote:
Industry: Telecommuncations

openbox9
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Re: focus

For purposes of segmenting the market, yes. However, AT&T does much more than standard telecommunications.

»www.att.com/gen/investor-relations?pid=5711

jeff17

join:2000-12-11
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why?

why does every news post have to include a response about data caps? let it go people, relax...

Mike
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Re: why?

Because caps are garbage.

morbo
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Feel free to pay my data overages. What is your address? I need to know where to send the invoice.

FBGuy
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nice try, AT&T
fiberguy
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said by jeff17:

why does every news post have to include a response about data caps? let it go people, relax...

Jeff, you're absolutely right. Not every post has to keep festering what everyone knows. That's actually known as Trolling, but around here BBR calls that acceptable-trolling. It's off topic and serves no purpose to the topics at hand to constantly flame the threads with cap related posts.

FBGuy
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Re: why?

by not talking about it, people learn to just accept it. not exactly a good thing to do.
fiberguy
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Re: why?

said by FBGuy:

by not talking about it, people learn to just accept it. not exactly a good thing to do.

So you feel compelled to CONSTANTLY drive that point home in every single topic or thread? ... or do you just feel that people are too stupid or beneath you that they don't remember something unless you tell them every day. So again, what's the point?

There are threads where it's appropriate. Why not just change the name of the site to broadbandcaps.com? EVERYTHING that has to do with internet is subject to caps.. there's no need to bring it up on everything that's discussed. It gets to the point of whiny..

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Re: why?

said by fiberguy:

said by FBGuy:

by not talking about it, people learn to just accept it. not exactly a good thing to do.

So you feel compelled to CONSTANTLY drive that point home in every single topic or thread? ... or do you just feel that people are too stupid or beneath you that they don't remember something unless you tell them every day. So again, what's the point?

Well, obviously it is just to piss you off. /s

But seriously, it is so that the discussion doesn't end. I don't post about it in every thread. I only post about it when it is appropriate. This is one of those threads.

EVERYTHING that has to do with internet is subject to caps..

I firmly disagree. Usage caps serve no real purpose in maintaining infrastructure.
fiberguy
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Re: why?

Thanks for proving you can't read...

My line : EVERYTHING that has to do with internet is subject to caps..

You say that you firmly disagree? really?? Could you be any more incorrect?

EVERYTHING that goes over the internet IS data which is in turn subject to a CAP.. were you too busy to try to make me look like a fool (and fail in the process) to rush out that attempt to put me down, yet again? ... or are you just that ignorant? So yes, EVERYTHING discussed here that goes over the internet has or so to with a service, app, product, website, etc. HAS TO DO WITH A CAP. duh!

FBGuy
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Re: why?

said by fiberguy:

EVERYTHING that goes over the internet IS data which is in turn subject to a CAP..

I have a web server in a data center. It is not metered in any way. I have for all intents and purposes unlimited bandwith usage.

So, not EVERYTHING is subject to a CAP. The only possible "cap" that you could say it has is the theoretical maximum throughput over a given period of time, but that really is not a cap. That is the bandwidth available and if that is what you are referring to as a cap, you are ignorant.

Mike
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Look at all these angry telco employees....
fiberguy
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Re: why?

said by Mike:

Look at all these angry telco employees....

Look at all these ASSumers... and you're a mod? wow. Brilliant!

mob
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Re: why?

And you're just a hack tool that posts the same crap over and over again. Whining and crying when real competition is even discussed, and bashing the concept of consumer rights is all you do.
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Re: why?

said by mob:

And you're just a hack tool that posts the same crap over and over again. Whining and crying when real competition is even discussed, and bashing the concept of consumer rights is all you do.

So sorry if I have an opinion that isn't in agreement with yours. But yea, you're brilliant in your post.. all I do is bash the concept of consumer rights.. right? asshat.. no, in your rush to, what, attack me...? .. you fail to see that I have an opinion of my own and it's not one-sided like the majority of people where, who quite frankly as you put it, are crying and whining all the time because they want something for nothing and have NO concept of how an economy works.

But please. go on, demand everything for free.. just remember that someone has to pay for it.. in your mind, as I can assume here, it's anyone but you.

Get out of here with your worthless assessment of who I am as a person.. I am no such.. REAL competition IS being discussed here and guess what? .. I'm here wondering why everyone is down on AT&T for offering it.. the majority opinion is "why should they?" or.. "pay them for something that others already offer"..isn't THAT bashing competition? ......?

... did you get dropped on your head as a child? or are you just that ignorant to what's being said here? ... I'm guessing just ignorant. The FACT here is that people want competition so long as it doesn't come from "a corporation".. *gasp* .. and no, I am no lover of corporations, in fact I'm quite the opposite, but I will defend reality, and I will also point out irony and one-sided extremists, such as you seem to be.
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said by jeff17:

why does every news post have to include a response about data caps? let it go people, relax...

Because caps are low and over priced.. Sorry, but we don't all make 100k+ a year, and all have access to land based broadband... I know if your house floods you just jump in your helicopter and fly to one of your others, but the rest of us have to stay and try to stay afloat...

jeff17

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Re: why?

I have a jet, not a helicopter. Some people... jeez. So what if prices are over-priced. I bet you'll keep paying!
decifal

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Re: why?

said by jeff17:

I have a jet, not a helicopter. Some people... jeez. So what if prices are over-priced. I bet you'll keep paying!

Actually no.. I've been down sizing like no bodies business.. Mellinecom account? Gone, data plan on phone? Majorly reduced on the share plan. Everything i've been killing bells and whistles on to save some cash flow.. I will not be bumping up my plans to use more data in the near future.... Crap has to be more affordable.
Skippy25

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Well it only makes sense....

Put a limit on how much data people can use before you start charging them for more data and then start rolling out services that use up lots of data. Anyone else see this coming?

Next thing to happen is for them to have a deal with all the big movie companies so you can see the latest just released movies through your mobile carrier for a buck!
podstolom

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Re: Well it only makes sense....

said by Skippy25:

Next thing to happen is for them to have a deal with all the big movie companies so you can see the latest just released movies through your mobile carrier for a buck!

*Viewing of this movie may consume data.
Skippy25

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Re: Well it only makes sense....

Yes, it MAY consume data from your wireless cap or your ISP cap. One way or another it WILL consume data from one of those capped plans though.

Van
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said by Skippy25:

Put a limit on how much data people can use before you start charging them for more data and then start rolling out services that use up lots of data. Anyone else see this coming?

Next thing to happen is for them to have a deal with all the big movie companies so you can see the latest just released movies through your mobile carrier for a buck!

Gooooooo Fake Capitalism!

Andy from CA
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Works well on my iPhone but ...

Even though it has music folders (Skydrive has document or photo folders) you can, like Skydrive, only play songs one at a time rather than all of those in a single folder. However, it is another 5GB for free so I won't complain about it.

One more thing, if YouTube can allow you to make playlists then the first out of the gate with this will definitely have an advantage.

BTW: I don't know about Google Play as Google can't upload from a browser (special non-W2K program needed) while AT&T & MS let me use the Fox (FireFox that is).

All IMHO so YMMV
MaynardKrebs
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AT&T Cloud vs. Megaupload

How is AT&T going to police the content users upload? Oh, you mean they aren't except to take down stuff 'on notice'?

How'd that work out before????

I wonder when the DOJ will raid AT&T, seize their servers, hold everyone's data hostage, freeze A&T's bank accounts, and prosecute the Chairman, CEO, and President?

What's good for the goose .........

But it'll be, "They may be sons of bitches, but they're 'our' sons of bitches", so nothing will be done. Kim Dotcom take note.

Twaddle

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Re: AT&T Cloud vs. Megaupload

My thoughts as well. ATT, your data in their hands- Not a good situation.
i2Fuzzy

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Hidden value

The only way I could see this being of any value is if they don't count transfers to and from their cloud storage option against your data allowance.
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mob
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Great

ATT is a good friend of the NSA. So good, that the NSA set up shop in several ATT locations.

I imagine the NSA already has root or admin access.

Twaddle

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Slippery slope

Why store your data in the cloud? Don't count on it being secure or even available to you when YOU want/need it. The Feds have made it clear that they will and do seize stored data from the citizens without warrant nor ability to retrieve your data. Cloud storage of data is just making it easier for the Feds to circumvent constitutional protection. I know, you say only the big fish doing illegal things like child porn, video and audio rip-offs etc. but ATT has already shown how willing it is to allow access to your private data without warrant and Megaupload customers have discovered their data is no longer available to them even if they are innocent of ANY violations. If your data is essential to your life liberty and pursuit of happiness, DON'T store/archive it in the cloud. Once it leaves your home/business it is in the control of the FEDS.

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Limited usefulness

Data caps aside, this isn't all that useful. It only works on AT&T devices as far as I can tell, so if you have a WiFi tablet (for example), you can't use it to access things you saved from your phone. Using a web browser in this case would be kind of clunky. I just can't see any reason to use this instead of Dropbox or Google Drive.

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