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Comments on news posted 2012-11-07 14:14:59: AT&T has announced their long-awaited plan to address the upgrade path for the company's DSL networks. ..

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LightS
Premium
join:2005-12-17
Greenville, TX

75mbps by 2013?

Two months to do this?

That being said... I'm glad they're doing it. My parents only have a measly 1.5mbps DSL connection (and it disconnects all of the time) at home. Where I live, I can get either a local municipally owned ISP (cable) - 10/1 for $34/mo. I personally have 30/2 for $54/mo, though.

That being said, if I could get their U-Verse IPDSLAM service I would be ecstatic. I'd gladly welcome in 24/3 for the higher upload speed, or even 45/6 or whatever projected upstream plan they have.

tshirt
Premium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:5

Re: 75mbps by 2013?

read carefully
"... U-Verse speeds to 75 Mbps by the end of 2013..."

LightS
Premium
join:2005-12-17
Greenville, TX

Re: 75mbps by 2013?

Definitely wasn't there when I posted :P
I figured it was a typo, though.

LightS
Premium
join:2005-12-17
Greenville, TX

Re: 75mbps by 2013?

Thank you for this informative input!

Michail
Premium
join:2000-08-02
Boynton Beach, FL
kudos:1
said by tshirt:

read carefully
"... U-Verse speeds to 75 Mbps by the end of 2013..."

Probably in Texas.

antdude
A Ninja Ant
Premium,VIP
join:2001-03-25
United State
kudos:4
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable
said by LightS:

Two months to do this?

That being said... I'm glad they're doing it. My parents only have a measly 1.5mbps DSL connection (and it disconnects all of the time) at home. Where I live, I can get either a local municipally owned ISP (cable) - 10/1 for $34/mo. I personally have 30/2 for $54/mo, though...

Why don't they just get cable then faster speed and stability? My parents' new place and neighbors have crappy 1 Mb/sec Verizon DSL services (no FIOS in this rural area), but they all got Time Warner Cable services and now happier. It's funny how neighbors copied the new house owners.

LightS
Premium
join:2005-12-17
Greenville, TX

1 recommendation

Re: 75mbps by 2013?

They don't have cable available. Charter, the incumbent cable ISP, completely skipped the neighborhood years ago. Probably a disagreement with the HoA.

antdude
A Ninja Ant
Premium,VIP
join:2001-03-25
United State
kudos:4
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable

Re: 75mbps by 2013?

said by LightS:

They don't have cable available. Charter, the incumbent cable ISP, completely skipped the neighborhood years ago. Probably a disagreement with the HoA.

Oh that sucks! Get HoA to get cable!
ShellMMG

join:2009-04-16
Grass Lake, MI
Reviews:
·Frontier Communi..

I have a description for this:

"Broadband Apartheid"

Those LTE caps will cut off internet access for thousands of consumers. According to Techdirt, a Razor mouse now requires an internet connection to work. There's a huge market that will be completely cut off, and nobody is putting pressure on ISPs to reconsider this mess.

Metatron2008
Premium
join:2008-09-02
united state

Re: I have a description for this:

LOL, you are full of it if you think this is political. At&t has been losing thousands of customers for quarter after quarter. It was either build out or concede defeat to cable.
Expand your moderator at work

SlowFITL

join:2012-02-01
Mobile, AL

Whats the plan for existing FTTC

I wonder what they plan to do with existing FTTC like the Marconi DISC*S systems in place in BellSouth areas.
WhatNow
Premium
join:2009-05-06
Charlotte, NC

1 recommendation

Re: Whats the plan for existing FTTC

If they did not do anything else they need to covert DISC*S to Uverse. Every time they get close they halt the conversion. They are going to lose all their customers in those areas if they don't do something.
jc3116
Premium
join:2003-01-03
Snellville, GA
They have converted a few IFITL remotes to an Ericsson PON system that supports Uverse speeds, but after the initial conversion, things seem to have slowed considerably.
The rumor is that the Ericsson system is too costly and they are searching for a cheaper alternative.
Hopefully IFITL will be included in this upgrade. I have tried unsuccessfully to get them to cut me to IP DSL but I'm told it's not available in my crossbox even though I'm less than 1.5 miles from the CO.

SlowFITL

join:2012-02-01
Mobile, AL

Re: Whats the plan for existing FTTC

They have to upgrade us IFITL customers or either lose it all to cable.

SlowFITL

join:2012-02-01
Mobile, AL
......
Os

join:2011-01-26
US

Faster Speeds for U-Verse are Huge

Not only will this make their internet offerings more competitive with cable, but if they can stop overcompressing the TV and not have limitations to the number of streams, they may really be on the right path after all.

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etaadmin

join:2002-01-17
Dallas, TX
kudos:1

At&t won't do nothing...

As usual at&t will end up doing nothing and their 75Mbps and future 100Mbps thereafter pipe dreams are just that, pipe dreams.

Perhaps in 5 years uverse will offer 75 Mbps to the lucky few closer than 1000ft from the VRAD but for the rest it's 6 Mbps heaven. $14 billion dollars spent on wheels in a car worth $100.

First deliver the 45 mbps plan they have been working on for 2 years and then talk about 75 or even 100 Mbps

»45 MB internet service

No wonder why their investors are not happy.

TriForce

join:2008-05-27
Chico, CA

A network behind

This is still not good enough as Docsis 3.1 will be rolling out during the same time frame. at&t is really trying hard for the bottom position and that is why share holders are angry.
34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

Re: A network behind

DOCSIS 3.1 modems will start showing up middle to end of 2014. MSOs won't do upgrades until end of 2014 and into 2015.
amungus
Premium
join:2004-11-26
America
Reviews:
·Cox HSI
·KCH Cable

1 recommendation

worthless

Totally worthless with such caps. LTE is neat, but there are still tons of gaps in coverage. The biggest issue is still usability. Sure, you can browse a bit faster, but forget really using wireless broadband anything like wired.
This is just sad. There really should be a fixed service with usable terms. It is otherwise worthless, and a huge waste.

88615298
Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness

Why not sell off the unwanted DSL lines?

Surely in some of these ares there would be a company that would buy up these lines at&t seems to not have an interest in maintaining.

dnoyeB
Ferrous Phallus

join:2000-10-09
Southfield, MI
kudos:1

Re: Why not sell off the unwanted DSL lines?

unless those are so-called 'dry' lines, ATT pads their POTS numbers with those.

mikedz4

join:2003-04-14
Weirton, WV
Do you want another company to run those lines? Someone that also has no plans on upgrading those lines just maintaining the status quo?
markrubi

join:2004-08-11
Edmond, OK

LoL yeah right. 75Mbps

I can't even get the Max Turbo speeds. I am all fiber too.

88615298
Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness

1 recommendation

Re: LoL yeah right. 75Mbps

Yep. The fastest speed they offer in my area is 18 Mbps and I can't even get that. And I'm right in town. I'm about 200 feet from being able to get 18 Mbps so the best I an get is 12 Mbps. They want $48 for that. Meanwhile I an get 30 Mbps from Charter for $50. Hmmmmmm which do I choose?
Dampier
Phillip M Dampier

join:2003-03-23
Rochester, NY

1 recommendation

Bait and Switch

Once you read beyond the press releases and really dig into the regulatory filings and sit through the entire two hour event (our good friend Craig Moffett was on hand for this one too), the real agenda begins to emerge.

This is one giant stunt to bait the feds with the promise of better broadband in return for the wholesale abandonment of the landline network and its universal service requirements. AT&T's wireless and VoIP voice services are barely regulated and abandoning rural landline networks in favor of wireless is win-win... for them.

Customers have zero recourse if they lose landline service and get stuck with lousy AT&T service and will be slapped with the same overpriced wireless service and usage caps. AT&T gets to pocket the fat profits.
--
Phillip M. Dampier
Editor, Stop the Cap!
»stopthecap.com
countscabula

join:2010-03-09

Re: Bait and Switch

We have a winner!

KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK

1 recommendation

Heads, they win!
Tails, you lose!
silbaco
Premium
join:2009-08-03
USA

LTE

We have no idea what their LTE service for replacing DSL or those without even DSL will be priced at. No one knows that it will be $15 per GB, that's purely speculation.

We have to keep in mind much of the 25% of At&t's footprint that isn't getting upgrades probably doesn't have DSL at all.

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kaila

join:2000-10-11
Lincolnshire, IL

Let's see

SBC/ATT DSL/Wireline initiatives promising DSL in my town since 1998:

1999- Project Pronto: DSL promised, dropped undelivered
2004- Project Lightspeed: DSL promised, dropped, morphed into.... U-verse
2007- U-Verse VRAD's installed in my Chicago suburb, never turned on....
2010- Unused and rusting VRAD's repainted
2012- Some VRAD's lit, the one serving my neighborhood is still neglected......
This latest initiative: ?

Fun

@sbcglobal.net

Re: Let's see

People sometimes chainsaw the cables down that feed the vrads. I wouldn't doubt it if it's happened in your neighborhood.
countscabula

join:2010-03-09

VRADs

They pulled the plug on the VRADs then they noticed something, they were making lots of money. So they're starting back. Great idea.

MovieLover76

join:2009-09-11
kudos:1

Should have to maintain dsl network.

Since they were built via a subsidy, they should in addition at least be required to keep the existing dsl markets that aren't in the upgrade plans on. LTE charges per GB are way to high to replace dsl.

Darknessfall
Premium
join:2012-08-17
kudos:6

Hinted?

I had a hint that this was going to happen. Over the past few days AT&T has been running a lot more U-verse ads in our state than they normally do. They usually only run one once and awhile, now it's all the time lol.

mikedz4

join:2003-04-14
Weirton, WV

any idea WHERE they are upgrading to u-verse?

Is there any news on whether or not eastern ohio will get u-verse or will they be left to 4g-lte?
silbaco
Premium
join:2009-08-03
USA

Re: any idea WHERE they are upgrading to u-verse?

Is there DSL there now? I would imagine pretty much all areas currently served by DSL will be getting some sort of an upgraded DSL, possibly U-verse.

mikedz4

join:2003-04-14
Weirton, WV

Re: any idea WHERE they are upgrading to u-verse?

there is dsl there now but it is not a major population area. Alot of rural areas.

GvilleDSL

join:2009-11-12
Greenville, SC

It's gonna suck when....

One day you have DSL and the next LTE...

KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK

Such BS.

Being forced off DSL to expensive capped and metered LTE.

These users obviously don't have any choice other then: Pay it or do without.
--
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini

88615298
Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness

Re: Such BS.

said by KrK:

Being forced off DSL to expensive capped and metered LTE.

While the cap is higher, DSL from at&T is capped.
WhatNow
Premium
join:2009-05-06
Charlotte, NC

Re: Such BS.

If they matched they made the wireless connection with the same caps as DSL for the same price or maybe just a bit more because of the higher LTE speeds it would not be so bad.
Bob61571

join:2008-08-08
Washington, IL

1 recommendation

GigaOm's Om Malik has some comments on the end of DSL

»gigaom.com/2012/11/07/hey-dsl-it···ood-bye/

tigerpaw509

join:2011-01-19

LTE Home

So they want to give me a LTE Home router with 2 gigs a month with a $15 charge for every gig over ????