 Sammer join:2005-12-22 Canonsburg, PA | No Duopoly Spectrum Crunch There is absolutely no spectrum crunch for AT&T Mobility, Clearwire, and Verizon Wireless! Others may not be so lucky although Softbank-Sprint-Clearwire could turn the current duopoly into a triopoly. Unfortunately the government repurposing FCC controlled (private sector) spectrum and holding more auctions is unlikely under the present rules to improve competition. |
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 SunnyD join:2009-03-20 Madison, AL | Spin. Still, AT&T could just as easily spin those 40-some-odd deals into "See, there was a spectrum crunch. By not approving the merger, you just made us look elsewhere for the spectrum."
I'm not trying to be an AT&T apologist, since all they're doing is hoarding spectrum anyway. I'm just saying that should the need arise, AT&T will just spin this news however they see fit and force feed it to those that are in charge. |
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 BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | Sigh Why is it that haters insist on there be a spectrum crunch BEFORE companies can act? That's like the morons that prepared for Sandy when it was an few hours away. How did that turn out for them? Are people that prepares for hurricane season in May stupid to you even though there is no threat of a hurricane and may not be one? Or are they being practical? |
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 | said by BF69:Why is it that haters insist on there be a spectrum crunch BEFORE companies can act? That's like the morons that prepared for Sandy when it was an few hours away. How did that turn out for them? Are people that prepares for hurricane season in May stupid to you even though there is no threat of a hurricane and may not be one? Or are they being practical? Why is it the people who want to let corporate Amerika run roughshod and rip off people for all they are worth call those that want a semblance of honesty and truth to enter the discussion "haters"? There will some day be an oil shortage, so effective tomorrow Exon will be charging YOU $175.00 per gallon of gasoline and limit you to 3 gallons per week. I suppose you're fine with that too. -- Isn't it sad that those that raise their right hand and swear "to support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America" are usually the ones most likely to trash it. |
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 rradina join:2000-08-08 Chesterfield, MO | reply to BF69 That depends on whether we solve the need by granting every available mhz to incumbents or if there is a need for an alternative that motivates new competitors invest and provide the additional capacity.
If current players don't have a crunch but create one and then proceed to acquire all they can, it leaves competitors with whatever crumbs are left or leasing wholesale capacity from incumbents.
There's nothing wrong with corporations doing all they can to increase their competitive edge. We expect no less from sports teams that exploit every possible talent achieve a winning record. However, when they try to do it by pulling a Jeff Gillooly (Tonya Harding), there has to be a good set of rules and a diligent referee/umpires/judge mechanism to prevent it. If it's already occurred, then they alert the executive branch so they can step in and enforce the rules.
It's also part of every corporation's mission to complain about the rules and, if they can, get them changed to their advantage.
The real question is do we have such rules and such a mechanism to adequately govern telecommunications free enterprise? Maybe we do. Maybe we don't.
In closing, whats wrong with consumers voicing concerns in opposition of corporations that use every conceivable angle to separate us from our money and be successful? |
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 Sammer join:2005-12-22 Canonsburg, PA 1 edit | reply to BF69 said by BF69:Why is it that haters insist on there be a spectrum crunch BEFORE companies can act? Because radio spectrum is finite and the available spectrum (except what's hoarded) is already being used by someone. If you have hurricane shutters, you wouldn't like it if the government said we have to take the hurricane shutters from your house because protecting this richer person's house is more important. |
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 LinklistPremium join:2002-03-03 Longport, NJ kudos:5 | reply to SunnyD
Re: Spin. said by SunnyD:Still, AT&T could just as easily spin those 40-some-odd deals into "See, there was a spectrum crunch. By not approving the merger, you just made us look elsewhere for the spectrum." And everyone, except the big corporate haters, says there is and will be a spectrum crunch. So AT&T is just making sure the spectrum shortage doesn't affect them. Good planning on their part. -- Impeach Obama and tie up government for next 2 yrs |
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Who is 'everyone' in relation to the 'big corporate haters'?
Do the 'big corporate haters' not matter? I think everyone matters, including the 'big corporate haters'. |
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Re: Sigh said by meeeeeeeeee:Why is it the people who want to let corporate Amerika run roughshod and rip off people for all they are worth call those that want a semblance of honesty and truth to enter the discussion "haters"? +1. I like that description  |
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| reply to Sammer The problem is with the way the spectrum was allocated. If there weren't so many different frequencies and so many different types of service allocated on certain frequencies this would be less of a problem. It's not that the big duo doesn't have enough spectrum, it's that they don't have enough of what they want. T has some 2300 WCS spectrum that they don't have in use yet but they are probably waiting for the right company to swap that to so they can get better spectrum. Just the same as Verizon not using the AWS spectrum that they have. It's all over the place though and makes deploying and making equipment to use all these frequencies more expensive. --
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 CXM_SplicerLooking at the bigger picturePremium join:2011-08-11 NYC kudos:1 | reply to ArrayList
Re: Spin. Are 'big corporate haters' :
A) People of large stature that hate corporations Or B) People who hate big corporations but not small ones
The term is a little confusing. |
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| Bought a lot AT&T has bought a LOT of 700mhz in the mean time to make up for the loss of the T-Mobile deal. It's going to be painful compared to the T-Mobile merger, as they have to transition to LTE, both handsets and the network, and it's picking up steam, but it won't happen as quickly as getting more PCS for HSPA+. |
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 The LimitPremium join:2007-09-25 Greensboro, NC kudos:2 | reply to Linklist
Re: Spin. So you would agree that using LTE as an alternative to wireline service is not feasible, seeing as this spectrum crunch is looming over our heads. |
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 LinklistPremium join:2002-03-03 Longport, NJ kudos:5 | said by The Limit:So you would agree that using LTE as an alternative to wireline service is not feasible, seeing as this spectrum crunch is looming over our heads. Not necessarily. LTE protocol supports many different spectrum bands. Rural point-to-point connections to replace wireline could use frequencies not conducive to mobile use. Usage of non-mobile frequencies for landline replacement wouldn't conflict with mobile spectrum requirements and any spectrum crunch for mobile use. -- Impeach Obama and tie up government for next 2 yrs |
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Re: Sigh A two year "Use it or Lose it" policy with the spectrum holder required to show significant, meaningful progress towards using the spectrum for its intended purpose would solve the whole squatting problem and the alleged "crunch". Unfortunately, since our government is the best that can be bought, don't expect anything like that to happen. -- Isn't it sad that those that raise their right hand and swear "to support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America" are usually the ones most likely to trash it. |
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 The LimitPremium join:2007-09-25 Greensboro, NC kudos:2 | reply to Linklist
Re: Spin. In other words, there's no spectrum crunch. |
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 LinklistPremium join:2002-03-03 Longport, NJ kudos:5 | reply to The Limit
Re: Spin. said by The Limit:In other words, there's no spectrum crunch. That isn't what I said. But you will believe what you want no matter what anyone says anyway. |
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 The LimitPremium join:2007-09-25 Greensboro, NC kudos:2 | Forgive me, but what's the difference in a "fixed" LTE connection on a PC vs a a mobile LTE connection on a PC? Mobile connections would presumably consume less data right? In other words, what's the difference? I ask the question in all seriousness, not out of trolling. Of course I'm going to believe what I want to believe given the evidence. -- "We will evaluate these integrals rigorously if we can, and non-rigorously if we must". ---Victor Moll, invited talk, Tom Osler Fest (April 17, 2010) |
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 brad join:2007-09-06 Etobicoke, ON | reply to The Limit said by The Limit:So you would agree that using LTE as an alternative to wireline service is not feasible, seeing as this spectrum crunch is looming over our heads. Until the insane caps go away LTE is not an alternative to wireline services. |
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