Great Sprint. I'm happy to see more markets going live, but how about a running count of cities/regions with any real qty of POPS? At least give us a count like say 50/300 existing towers upgraded, and 10/4,000 new ones activated? How about an ETA map?
Sure don't give away the farm, then at least identify the top 15 tier markets and give us a total of the running upgrades/installations. Don't worry, we can calculate percentages on our own. Give us some more details, but sure, protect your market position with what you share. Nerds like me want to know.
The info isn't directly from Sprint's PR folks, but it is real, actual info.
Also, as has been said before, Sprint is launching smaller markets because you can launch a small market after upgrading five or ten towers. Whereas you need to upgrade five hundred towers/cell sites to get some place like LA online.
This is the only way for it to appear that Sprint isn't so far behind on LTE..... Get the numbers up with multiple small towns launching at the same time.
I don't fault Sprint for doing it this way. They simply don't have the money or capital to launch large markets simultaneously like Verizon and to a lesser extent, AT&T does. Verizon is the king of LTE launches.
Getting numbers up quickly looks better than it really is. Hopefully they don't lose customers in the big cities while they build out small towns.
The wait for LTE on an iPhone 5 or other LTE-capable device in larger markets has got to be frustrating as hell for those folks. -- "We're going to start at one end of (Fallujah), and we're not going to stop until we get to the other. If there's anybody left when that happens, we're going to turn around and we're going to go back and finish it." Lt. Col. Pete Newell: 1st Inf. US Army
Hopefully they don't lose customers in the big cities while they build out small towns.
They're not delaying big cities to focus on smaller cities by any stretch of the imagination. Most of these small cities fall within the large markets, like Chicago, that they're already working on. Chicago, for example, has hundreds of cell sites complete and operational already, they just haven't officially launched it. Sprint's biggest problem is people making ignorant assumptions of their LTE rollout based on worthless press releases.
-- "We're going to start at one end of (Fallujah), and we're not going to stop until we get to the other. If there's anybody left when that happens, we're going to turn around and we're going to go back and finish it." Lt. Col. Pete Newell: 1st Inf. US Army
Far northwest Fort Worth on Loop 620, on a rare occasion I see 5 Mbps, but usually less than 3 Mbps...and more than often, it drops to half speed one third of the way through the speed test. Sunday afternoon 4G was 800 Kbps and 3G was only 200 Kbps.
The point of my original post, though, was to state that a large amount of cities in the DFW region have LTE service without Sprint saying explicitly that they do.
I was actually just in northwest FW (North Richland Hills) a few days ago and I was getting about 29mbps down. Pretty good.
Other times, it's lower, about 9 or so - but I've never seen 3mbps on LTE around there with Sprint. I've only had this iPhone 5 for a week, but I did a lot of driving and took note of speeds. They were almost always great. 3G is, of course, garbage lol.
As a company, I like Sprint. As a company I hate Verizon Wireless. But Saturday after 9 years of being with Nextel & Sprint, I switched over to Verizon. And boy did it hurt!
What good is Unlimited Data when average speeds on 3G are not much faster than dial up? On Thursdays for work, I'm in a small rural town with no Sprint service. I would roam on to Verizons 1X network and at -85 dB pull in faster speeds then having a perfect signal on Sprints own native EVDO network when Im back to civilization. Tell me that isnt fucked up. I could deal with not having LTE coverage for another year, but when it takes 10 minutes to load a stupid YouTube clip, that was enough. Sprint has announced no plans to upgrade either Buffalo or Rochester, NY to LTE. Although as of two weeks ago, progress was being made as Sprints EVDO Network now registers as EHRPD which is a prelude to LTE. Speeds got slightly better, but nothing to write home about.
Verizons LTE speeds are a tad bid disappointing around here. Ive been averaging 8-13 Mb Down and about 3-5Mb Up. When I had a wimax phone on Sprint, in Rochester I would get the same download and 1.5-2.0Mb on the upload. When Sprint launches LTE in Upstate NY and has a significant portion of the area covered, I may switch back. Contracts and ETFs dont scare me. I just bought the Evo 4G LTE in June and less than 6 months later I moved on. -- iPhone: 4 1136 X 640 Display, 1.30 GHz Dual Core Processor, 1 GB RAM MyPhone: 5 1920 X 1080 Display, 1.50 GHz Quad Core Processor, 2 GB RAM So tell me, why is exactly is the iPhone so great? Droid Does What Jobs Wont Let You Do.
Wait.... if I may ask, why is 8-13mb down so bad? My Verizon Galaxy Nexus gets good LTE speeds. I've seen around 30mbps for both my Galaxy Nexus on LTE & Sprint's LTE.
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I would take a new Verizon LTE test but I haven't lived in that area for months & no LTE here.
edit: while I agree, 8-13mbps is nothing compared to what I posted above... do you honestly need that speed? If your area is congested with LTE phones, I think that's pretty darn respectable. I'd love to get 30mbps all of the time, but honestly, for the majority of the stuff I do on a phone etc even 5mbps is enough... while you may be different, I don't see how you can need that much lol
Its not really bad, just disappointing. After reading on sites like this how shitty wimax is and how much better LTE is, I was expecting more.
Heres my personal best on Sprint 4G Wimax:
Heres my personal best on Verizon 4G LTE:
-- iPhone: 4 1136 X 640 Display, 1.30 GHz Dual Core Processor, 1 GB RAM MyPhone: 5 1920 X 1080 Display, 1.50 GHz Quad Core Processor, 2 GB RAM So tell me, why is exactly is the iPhone so great? Droid Does What Jobs Wont Let You Do.
Yes, I have been frustrated with Sprint service and was first to get the first EVO waiting for WiMax......it never happened. Now I am waiting for a taste of LTE. My home WISP service is horrible and got a pre-paid Mifi from Verizon, the speeds were good 8-12 meg...but I burnt past my allotted 4 Gig in 6 days.....
Anyhow, was reading all about the founder of Softbank and with their 20B cash infusion into Sprint, and his belief of shaking up the pricing scheme to beat the competition, I believe we will see LTE-TD service at a much lower price point than anyone plus without caps.
They start building little markets out to pump their market count up. AT&T and Verizon didn't do that- they tackled NYC, SF, LA, Chicago, Boston, etc, etc, right up front where LTE is actually needed (Ok, Sprint's 3G is so bad that everywhere needs LTE, but still...).
That's not bad, but not great. This is my first personal LTE phone with Sprint (well, it's a work phone) and I'm not sure if their upload is just naturally slower or what, but I've gotten 15+ mbps upstream with Verizon.
Either way, I don't blame you for expecting more.. it should be better!
I live in an area where ATT and Sprint are the only major players, and neither offer 3G, let alone LTE. The best connection we have around here is a small mom and pop wireless company that has had 3G for a few years and is getting ready to light up LTE. Meanwhile, AT&T is contemplating upgrading a few select sites from omni to sector....Yey. Cable, WiSP, DSL ? Too funny. My WiSP provider charges for broadband and supplies eye popping speeds near that of dial-up.
So, while you remain spoiled with several options for broadband, remember the rest of us.
Still, I prefer Sprint over everything else for unlimited. And I can attest, that I have LTE in a non-launched market on Sprint, SF Bay Area, and the speeds are around 14-16 down. It's the coverage that I can't wait to be expanded.
Than and the iPhone 5 I have craps out sometimes when switching signals, especially from LTE to 3G and to and from Wifi. Sometimes need to cycle data on and off to pick up the best signal when it is there.
Upload on Sprint's LTE wont be the best until the network is completely upgraded in your area or you have full signal. If you have full LTE signal you should see 18 Megabit/s up MAX. Sprint uses a 5x5 MHz LTE carrier. 5 MHz for downstream and 5 MHz for upstream resulting in 37 Megabit/s down and 18 Megabit/s up per carrier, per sector.
The small cities aren't markets, they're cities in larger markets. Chicago encompasses all of what most people consider Chicagoland. Chicagoland has over 1000 cell towers alone which take several weeks to completely upgrade from start to finish. By announcing these cities as having LTE they're saying/showing that they're making progress in the larger markets.