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Comments on news posted 2012-12-03 09:24:39: Verizon is the latest to file for a patent that would allow the company to use set top cameras and microphones to monitor your living room, all so they can send you more targeted advertisements. ..

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tpkatl
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Creepy. Scary. Ugly.

How many more adjectives can I use?

Talk about intrusiveness. Big Brother times five.

How a company could see that this is even remotely desirable (not to mention legal) is beyond me.

CptSpaulding
join:2009-07-21
Cincinnati, OH

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I like to watch TV naked.

Have fun! I see if Direct TV ever did this my camera would be shut off quickly, or, animal control would be called that there is a bear loose in my house.
Joe12345678
join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL

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just put the box in a cabinet

just put the box in a cabinet out of the way.

compuguybna
join:2009-06-17
Nashville, TN

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Use Pin Hole Camera and it wouldn't be obvious.

All they'd have to do is install a "pin-hole" camera in the front of the receiver, and/or make it like an IR/RF remote control port, and user's would never know anything about it. It would not be obvious at all. CREEPY!
Body Count
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LOL

This will never happen lol. Too many privacy issues.

And if it did happen, whats stopping the government from getting a court order to see these records in an event of a crime?

Nope. Too easy to block as well. Piece of black tape could stop the video and audio feed.

OSUGoose
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Columbus, OH

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So

What if the DVR sees/hears sex in progress, is it going to deliver parenting class ads, or baby related ads, or abortion ads. What if it thinks the girl is underage, will it call the police?

cableties
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Kinect next...

I read MS wants to use the Kinect for more than gaming...
-who is watching in the room
-how many and are they tied to Live accounts
-facial recognition to determine happy, sad, mad or other reaction to viewing

And people will accept it if "free for limited time" or if there is some financial reward (points, $, gifts, rebates...) just like Nielson uses for their pager-thing.

morbo
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The scariest technology I have heard of in a long time

This is simply the most frightening technology I have heard of in a long time. This will put cameras and microphones in your house so that your every action can be examined in order to sell products and services to you.
Os
join:2011-01-26
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And Yet.....

......we pay $20+ a month for these things?

If there was ever a time to start building your own, here it is.
Mr Matt
join:2008-01-29
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Re: LOL

Knowing the way these parasites think they will use the camera as the receiver for the remote control so no snoope, remote no workie. Then when the subscriber escalates blocking snooping by placing an opaque material like magic tape over the camera opening the CATV operator will modify the remote receiver to require clear view of remote to operate. Will the CATV operator compensate the subscriber for selling unintended porn created by having a STB in the bedroom. After all the ISP's will sell anything about the subscribers account activity or viewing habits they can profit from whether or not the subscriber approves. The TOS will include a clause allowing the CATV operator to report any illegal activity seen or heard to the appropriate enforcement agency while holding the CATV operator harmless for such reporting.

EDIT: By The Way watch the movie Fahrenheit 451 where you will see a demonstration of a snooping system and a flat screen television.

Dominokat
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Tape


I think this is very creepy of any company or business to do. It goes well beyond the right of privacy inside ones home.

But if this ever came to pass. A piece of black tape to cover up the camera and microphone.
*Solved

banditws6
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Agreed, but better yet...

...Cancel your service from these hosers. Problem really solved.

TrainBuff
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Re: Creepy. Scary. Ugly.

I have two words...NO WAY! I value my privacy.

momoo
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what

what was my wife doing thanks verizon

jjoshua
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Calm down...

It's just a patent.
fibergeorge
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Clarksville, TN

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Early april fools joke?

i can only hope that no one seriously thinks this would ever be allowed... or will it?
tired_runner
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Simple solution to a big problem

Cut the cord, don't get cable TV at all.

Now if that's not an option, there's always CableCARD and your own cable TV-enabled computers that will work with CableCARD.

Not only are you avoiding monthly rental fees, but you're also doing away with this stupid, intrusive snooping.
me1212
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Re: So

Depends, is the boy under-age too?

OSUGoose
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Clearly one is over 18 if I stated the girl/boy was underage.

And that could be simply a 16 yo with a 18 yr old or worse the minor and older adult.
me1212
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I'd say depends on the age of consent laws.

OSUGoose
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No it wouldn't, as it would be a unwarranted invasion of privacy, doesn't change that the act is wrong, but there should not be a 3rd party observing, plus imagine the lawsuit if the girl was legal age, but just looked young/underage.

Or could someone self pleasuring get charged with indecent exposure since the "monitor" of the feed the DVR pickups was subjected to it.

I mean there are all kinds of Pandora box esque things a thing like this opens up on both sides.

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Re: Use Pin Hole Camera and it wouldn't be obvious.

said by compuguybna:

All they'd have to do is install a "pin-hole" camera in the front of the receiver, and/or make it like an IR/RF remote control port, and user's would never know anything about it. It would not be obvious at all. CREEPY!

IR relay would take care of it.

tshirt
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Re: Creepy. Scary. Ugly.

said by tpkatl:

How a company could see that this is even remotely desirable (not to mention legal) is beyond me.

If you agree to it, why not? (not sure why anyone would, but look at all the WAY TOO MUCH INFORMATION stuff posted on facebook/twitter/YouTube/etc)

It's hardly big brother which would imply it was forced on you by the Gov't.
brianiscool
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Tv Card

This is the reason why you should purchase a TV card and a TIVO.
me1212
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Re: So

Agreed, we need to put a stop to this BS some how. I don't want this crap in my house at all.

The saddest part is, the kids growing up now will see this as normal, and not resist it when they are adults.
decifal7
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Re: LOL

said by Body Count:

This will never happen lol. Too many privacy issues.

And if it did happen, whats stopping the government from getting a court order to see these records in an event of a crime?

Nope. Too easy to block as well. Piece of black tape could stop the video and audio feed.

many many sheep would never think to even be aware to look for it though.. It will be done.. For our protection of course

AVD
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so TiVo can license the patent and sell what you are doing.

incognito_2u
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Verizon DVR Would Study Your Behavior....

I'm still waiting for someone to say....."April Fool's !!!!"
mdlund0
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Re: Creepy. Scary. Ugly.

No words, just a number: 1984.

tshirt
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Re: So

Suppose someone watching alone had a medical emergency and asked/begged for help.
would the provider be allowed to send help?
would they be liable if they ignored the problem?
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