 | Expand TIPA The question should be is are they going to expand TIPA. One would assume it would be easy to integrate the two companies to share one network in the end and ISPs. |
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Re: Expand TIPA said by TBusiness:The question should be is are they going to expand TIPA. One would assume it would be easy to integrate the two companies to share one network in the end and ISPs. you mean TPIA? |
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 | oh noes expect Canadian caps .... |
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 | said by patt2k:expect Canadian caps .... 10 GB won't play here. Might as well go with satellite or mobile. |
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 | potential ripoff? from ripping off the Canadian consumer to ripping off the American consumer? No thanks. I'd take Yahoo & Microsoft getting into tier-1 and last mile before Cogeco. |
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 MarkAWBarry WhitePremium join:2001-08-27 Canada kudos:16 | reply to patt2k
Re: oh noes said by patt2k:expect Canadian caps .... ...and high prices.  |
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 brad join:2007-09-06 Etobicoke, ON | reply to patt2k said by patt2k:expect Canadian caps .... Somewhat of a blanket statement. Not all Canadian ISPs have pathetic caps, but this is the case for the major carriers in Ontario or Quebec. I'm in Ontario with an ISP that offers either 300GB cap + overage or unlimited. |
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 | ABB Customer As a silver lining, maybe the TV lineup will improve. Atlantic Broadband has been in a 4-year fight with Comcast SportsNet DC, so its MD customers are blacked out of the Capitals and Wizards, as well as many ACC telecasts.
But the internet has me worried. You can currently get uncapped 40/3 here. I still have 10/1, and I haven't changed anything just in case things do get really bad here soon. South Florida ABB has access to a 110/7 tier. |
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Re: Expand TIPA yes. |
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 andybPremium join:2003-05-29 SW Ontario kudos:1 | reply to osravens
Re: ABB Customer They will sell you off in a year or two anyway.They have never purchased anything outside of Canada that made money after they purchase it |
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Re: Expand TIPA TPIA was forced on them - it isn't provided voluntarily. Why would they do something they don't want to do without being forced by the regulator? -- MNSi Internet - »www.mnsi.net |
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 brad join:2007-09-06 Etobicoke, ON | reply to andyb
Re: ABB Customer said by andyb:They will sell you off in a year or two anyway.They have never purchased anything outside of Canada that made money after they purchase it Because a total of one company gives them such a track record to make such a ridiculous assumption. |
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 brad join:2007-09-06 Etobicoke, ON | reply to tmc8080
Re: potential ripoff? said by tmc8080:I'd take Yahoo & Microsoft getting into tier-1 and last mile before Cogeco. That would be just as bad if not worse. |
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Re: ABB Customer said by osravens:As a silver lining, maybe the TV lineup will improve. Atlantic Broadband has been in a 4-year fight with Comcast SportsNet DC, so its MD customers are blacked out of the Capitals and Wizards, as well as many ACC telecasts. Hate to burst your bubble, but if you've ever seen some of the protracted fights they've been in to secure carriage of channels, you wouldn't have such an optimistic outlook. Cogeco are cheap bastards. They'll hold out a long time before agreeing to pay more than what they want to.
said by osravens:But the internet has me worried. You can currently get uncapped 40/3 here. I still have 10/1, and I haven't changed anything just in case things do get really bad here soon. South Florida ABB has access to a 110/7 tier. Best Cogeco does in any of their markets in Canada is 65/2 with a 250GB cap for just shy of $100/month. This, compared to Shaw, Rogers and Eastlink all offering 100+ speeds for less money. They used to be at the forefront when it came to the Internet side of things, being the first provider in the entire world to migrate their entire network over to DOCSIS, but in the last few years they've lagged behind in a serious way. The only thing keeping them afloat, at least in Ontario, is that Bell is even worse. |
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 | Eh, so basically what I'm used to.
The lineup I saw had a lot more sports programming than we get. Basically, all we get here outside of the basic stuff is the NFL Network. |
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 GonePremium join:2011-01-24 Fort Erie, ON kudos:3 | We have must-carry cable channels where the owner of the network still receives a fee despite the carriage requirement. It's not the same as in the US. |
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 brad join:2007-09-06 Etobicoke, ON | reply to Gone said by Gone:Cogeco are cheap bastards. They'll hold out a long time before agreeing to pay more than what they want to. It's that or your bill goes up by $20 or more for a small few channels when the greedy content producers want to renegotiate. There is very much two sides to this issue and this isn't specific to Cogeco. All of the providers have to deal with this issue. |
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 | reply to Gone said by Gone:We have must-carry cable channels where the owner of the network still receives a fee despite the carriage requirement. It's not the same as in the US. That exists in the US as well but only for the local over the air channels and depending on what is in the franchise agreement with the city/state it can also include some local area government channels. |
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| reply to brad said by brad:It's that or your bill goes up by $20 or more for a small few channels when the greedy content producers want to renegotiate. There is very much two sides to this issue and this isn't specific to Cogeco. All of the providers have to deal with this issue. Well, not really. Shaw, Rogers and Bell all have television networks and must-carry cable networks that they can use as pawns when negotiating BDU carriage. Cogeco doesn't have that luxury, so they either pay or they don't get it. I wouldn't be surprised if Cogeco ends up with Astral after Bell gets told to pound sand for a second time, though.
Cogeco are notorious for being cheap. That is specific to Cogeco. It took them years to carry the former Voom HD channels (I believe they were the last holdout in the entire country) because they didn't want to pay for them. They get zero sympathy from me. |
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