 | | Hypocrisy At Its Finest This is the same CWA that insisted T-Mobile being borged by the thing that calls itself "AT&T" these days would create jobs?
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Boynton Beach, FL | Re: Hypocrisy At Its Finest Tmobile is not unionized, never has been probably never will be. Its employees have shut down every attempt at being unionized. So CWA won't have new members therefore bad. | |
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| Re: Hypocrisy At Its Finest Also generally EU companies and people that work for them won't unionize. I worked for an EU company and the company was AWESOME to work for! Would still be with them if the mgt in the store wasn't so horrible (well managers stealing products) and the DM and other Company officials in the US would do their jobs. | |
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| tpkatl
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Dacula, GA | Why would anyone believe the CWA? Nuff said. | |
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| | | Re: Hypocrisy At Its Finest Half the people on this planet is Hypocrisy... | |
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|  NOCManMacChatterPremium
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Colorado Springs, CO | said by jseymour:This is the same CWA that insisted T-Mobile being borged by the thing that calls itself "AT&T" these days would create jobs?
Jim
Note: I'm not in a Union, and have never been in a Union other than being an American Citizen.
Can you point out any telecom merger that has not resulted in job loss?
Tell you what, you will now work 7 days a week, with a half day off on sunday for religious services, you will work 14 hours a day, no time off or vacation, and if you get hurt on the job, it's your fault and you're fired because of it.
You fail to realize what Unions have bought working Americans and others across the globe. You take it for granted and bash the Unions because someone told you Unions were bad and you go parroting it off to anyone who is just as dumb to listen.
Get a clue, the first part of our Constitution says "We the people".
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| | Anybody shocked? the CWA does whatever helps the CWA and screws over the people. I have worked under the CWA and they are a horrible union with essentially no power. They do nothing to help out employees who have been wronged, I saw this multiple times, and they always back management.
I am all for unions but they have to be there for the people they are representing. The CWA is just a cash grab by a greedy organization. | |
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|  n2jtx
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Glen Head, NY | Re: Anybody shocked? said by RiseAbove:the CWA does whatever helps the CWA and screws over the people. I have worked under the CWA and they are a horrible union with essentially no power. They do nothing to help out employees who have been wronged, I saw this multiple times, and they always back management. How is this different than any other organization? The union has one major interest; perpetuating itself and its leadership (after all, the last thing they want to do is have to go back to doing the real labor they supposedly represent). And of course they will accept layoffs. Once laid off, a worker is no longer a member of most unions and cannot vote out the leadership that caused them to lose their job.
My father was in a professional union for a long time and the union was never there to help him with a grievance but they were front and center to collect dues and demand he man a picket line.
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| Re: Anybody shocked? said by n2jtx:My father was in a professional union for a long time and the union was never there to help him with a grievance but they were front and center to collect dues and demand he man a picket line.
Which union? | |
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| | Wouldn't doubt it.... Despite coming from the CWA, has consolidation ever resulted in a gain of jobs? Obviously there will be layoffs if this merger goes through. 10,000... doesn't sound that unreasonable. That is just how business works. | |
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| | | | Re: Wouldn't doubt it.... Yeah, I would bet closer to 500-2000 jobs lost. | |
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Colorado Springs, CO | Verizon Wireless had 40,000 ish employees after the mega merger that created it. To get to that number they laid off more than 10,000 workers. | |
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| | MetroPCS MetroPCS is ghetto as it comes for a cellular network. Most people they hire are students and people with no work experience. You guys should try waiting in line at one of these places. It is worse than a post office. They hire maybe 2 - 3 people to service 30 - 40 people waiting in line for over an hour. I have gone to two MetroPcs locations and never seen such horrible customer service before in my life. | |
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| | | Re: MetroPCS You my friend have never heard of Cricket, where unlimited local calling plans are sold for a dollar per day. | |
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| | | | Re: MetroPCS Haha, we do not have Cricket here in the South. | |
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| | | | | Re: MetroPCS Cricket is available in most every southern US market. | |
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| | | | | I'm pretty sure Cricket is nationwide? Trust me when I say Cricket takes Ghetto to a whole new extreme. A customer that keeps their phone activated for a day and pays their bill is given props for loyalty. I'm sure those individuals comprise a very small base of subscribers.
In the line of work I did, those numbers were disconnected faster than issued. Valuable tip, they can still receive text messages I'm told even if phone is shut off. | |
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| | | | Metro and Cricket have very little overlap in their coverage areas. Which is why I always thought it would be great it they would eventually merge to give us another nationwide provider. But this deal with T-mo pretty much kills that idea. | |
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| | | | According to Northcoast PCS (Revol.com) They're buying more of Cricket from LEAP as they did previously in the Midwest. But if anyone things Metro is horrible, wait until you deal with Revol. | |
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| | Come on CWA shills I know you are out there.. refute this, tell us all how it's a complete lie. | |
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| | | Re: Come on CWA shills do the math. it was already posted. | |
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 ropeguruPremium
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Mechanicsville, VA | Just another... Justification as to why the unions of today are useless to the actual paying members and should be abolished. | |
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| | | Re: Just another... Unless you commit a crime then they are there to protect you. | |
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Mechanicsville, VA | Re: Just another... I hope you just forgot the sarcasm tag..
They are only there to keep the money flowing to the union bosses income and lavish life styles. | |
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| | | | | Re: Just another... sarcasm tag for who? me? | |
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Mechanicsville, VA | Re: Just another... Yes, you are the only that has replied to me and the one I replied to.. | |
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| Re: Just another... It didn't say you replied to me.
And I was being serious. This summer and the first part of Spring. The union has stopped two employers from firing two different employees. Both employers were on different sides of the state. They were NOT fired due to their contract said they could NOT be.
Both employees work for the gov't. Both employees were caught on camera and by the public for animal abuse/neglect. One threw a puppy up against a concrete wall, guy still has his job even though 4 months earlier served jail time for beating up his gf and his gf's mom. Union prevented termination for that.
One killed a full size dog by stabbing him with a arrow type object and then washing him down with a pressure washer- the pressure washer was aimed right for the stab wound.
Both issues made national news. | |
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Colorado Springs, CO | Re: Just another... I watch it daily as part of my job and never heard about it.
Names or it did not happen. | |
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|  LightSPremium
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Greenville, TX | Not all unions. | |
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 KommiePremium
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kudos:2 | CWA sold out to the bossman a long time ago CWA sold out to the boss man a long time ago
Decertification should be a lot easier for the workers where CWA does nothing. | |
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| | Unions suck guessing the unions have no problems putting 18000+ Hostess employees out of work because they refused a slight pay cut contract... | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Unions suck said by schmolf4:guessing the unions have no problems putting 18000+ Hostess employees out of work because they refused a slight pay cut contract...
It wasnt the union on that one but managment. | |
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| | | | Re: Unions suck said by Kommie:said by schmolf4:guessing the unions have no problems putting 18000+ Hostess employees out of work because they refused a slight pay cut contract...
It wasnt the union on that one but managment. It was one union. The Teamsters had agreed to their contract. | |
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|  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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Tulsa, OK | Another comment from someone who has a political axe to grind without knowing one detail of the actual situation but uses it to post a comment anyway to try and score political points.
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Colorado Springs, CO | said by schmolf4:guessing the unions have no problems putting 18000+ Hostess employees out of work because they refused a slight pay cut contract...
This is exactly the uneducated drivel that is bringing this country down. They wanted a 30% paycut, after an earlier 25% paycut. Are you saying you can survive that kind of paycut and call it a slight payout? The executives gave themselves million dollars in bonuses before asking for that second paycut. It was a bain capital style hedge fund that bought Hostess and began these cuts. They will sell off the pieces and patents/trademarks like they planned to in the first place.
The management never reinvested into the company, they were baking on 60+ year old gear. Had they done so they could of gotten by with less employees and kept the standard of living up for the remaining employees.
But I bet it's okay for everyone to make minimum wage.
Except you.
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| | CWA read a business textbook shocking! I am a bit suspect on how they got a 10,000 figure but the prevailing conventional wisdom of most mergers is that they are often failures leading to job losses... HP-Compaq, and Sprint-Nextel come to mind | |
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| CXM_SplicerLooking at the bigger picturePremium
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1 edit | Re: CWA read a business textbook shocking! Yes, usually you only hear the hyped numbers from the 'job-creation' phonies... I guess the union plays both sides of the card. | |
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| | | | Re: CWA read a business textbook shocking! yeah I always wonder what sauce they're on when they say it creates job... when usually one of the first jobs to go is one of those at the top, can't have two CEOs.. | |
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KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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Tulsa, OK | Here we go again Every time someone tries to create stronger competition to at&t and Verizon, the CWA comes out saying it's a job killer.
Every time at&t or Verizon try to eliminate competition by absorbing or buying out a competitor, they say it's a Job creator.
The CWA should learn both at&t and Verizon on their own are far better job killers then anything anyone else could ever do.
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| | | Re: Here we go again said by KrK:Every time someone tries to create stronger competition to at&t and Verizon, the CWA comes out saying it's a job killer.
Every time at&t or Verizon try to eliminate competition by absorbing or buying out a competitor, they say it's a Job creator.
The CWA should learn both at&t and Verizon on their own are far better job killers then anything anyone else could ever do.
That's because virtually all of CWA due paying members are from AT&T and Verizon. So due to their self interest, they will oppose any competition that could hurt AT&T and Verizon. | |
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| | just shut up... the potential loss of jobs from the att tmobile deal would have been much worse... the cwa just have wasted the last of their credability... | |
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