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Comments on news posted 2012-12-12 10:47:50: The FCC has unanimously voted to approve Dish's plans to build an LTE network, though there will be build requirements and interference protections built in to the arrangement, and a living, breathing Dish LTE network is anything but certain. ..


xenophon

join:2007-09-17

Sprint may host it

Dish has been working with Sprint's to host it but they had the interference issues, which now appear to be resolved. Sprint's new Vision infrastructure is designed to pop in cards for 3rd party networks, sorta like telcom hotel thing but for cellsites.

My guess is that Dish will work with Sprint to host it but Dish may eventually get out of biz and Sprint will end up acquiring the Dish spectrum in the end.

Under this scenario, Sprint doesn't really need to buy Clearwire. Dish spectrum is more desirable.


IowaCowboy
Iowa native
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Springfield, MA
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Worst customer service

Dish Network's customer service is the worst which is why I went back to Comcast. DirecTV is much better (although more expensive than bundling TV with my phone and Internet with Comcast).

flycuban

join:2005-04-25
Homestead, FL
And this has nothing to do with customer service LOL


Cheese
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Naples, FL
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6 years?

I think it will be a waste to roll out LTE now as in 6 years, there will be something new already!


IowaCowboy
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reply to flycuban

Re: Worst customer service

What I am saying is I'd never do business with Dish again after I had a bad experience with them.

flycuban

join:2005-04-25
Homestead, FL
reply to Cheese

Re: 6 years?

Its gonna be LTE Super Advanced +100 by then


Metatron2008
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join:2008-09-02
united state
reply to Cheese
Why rollout 3g in the past?


TriForce

join:2008-05-27
Chico, CA
reply to Cheese
LTE is going to scale well. That's why it's called "Long Term" Evolution. In 6 years, it will still be very capable. We aren't anywhere close to the maximum gigabit speed of LTE.


Cheese
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Naples, FL
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6 years in this type of technology is LT.

TBBroadband

join:2012-10-26
Fremont, OH
reply to Metatron2008
and sadly there are companies still rolling out 3g and expanding it to CMDA-Rev. B claiming its new and improved.


Metatron2008
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united state

1 recommendation

reply to Cheese
And saying you shouldn't rollout a new technology because another one is coming is is called being shortsighted, what is your point with this?


Cheese
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said by Metatron2008:

And saying you shouldn't rollout a new technology because another one is coming is is called being shortsighted, what is your point with this?

I didn't say they shouldn't roll it out


Metatron2008
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united state
You said it was a waste


Cheese
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Naples, FL
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And? I think it is. Your point?

Telco

join:2008-12-19
reply to Cheese
said by Cheese:

I think it will be a waste to roll out LTE now as in 6 years, there will be something new already!

You don't know what you are talking about. 3G WCDMA started out at 384kbit/s, yet it has now reached close to 42Mbit/s.

LTE are European tech that is designed to be scalable. It's not some CDMA or Wimax, where you build it and it becomes useless down the track.

I think you are confusing this for tech for Florida.


bbeesley
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join:2003-08-07
Richardson, TX
kudos:5
reply to Cheese
said by Cheese:

I didn't say they shouldn't roll it out

I disagree with your premise that LTE will be obsolete anytime in the next six years but that said...

What would you have them deploy today?

Are you suggesting that they are better off perpetually awaiting whatever magical technology is coming next rather then generating revenue with what is currently available?

kem09030

join:2004-11-29
Rushville, IL
reply to Cheese
Actually they are rolling out something other than the LTE currently being deployed. LTE-A or LTE advanced. Most of the gear now just requires a software upgrade. IIRC the early gear requires a lot more to get it to LTE-A. I think only one carrier in the US used some of that early gear.


Cheese
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reply to bbeesley
said by bbeesley:

said by Cheese:

I didn't say they shouldn't roll it out

I disagree with your premise that LTE will be obsolete anytime in the next six years but that said...

What would you have them deploy today?

Are you suggesting that they are better off perpetually awaiting whatever magical technology is coming next rather then generating revenue with what is currently available?

Are you guys who have responded really that illiterate? I never SAID it would be obsolete. I said there will be something BETTER in 6 years.

Reading comprehension, works WONDERS.

clone

join:2000-12-11
Portage, IN
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reply to Telco
You don't know what you are talking about either. CDMA »www.cdg.org/resources/cdma_history.asp was first conceptualized in 1988, ratified as a standard in 1993, and the first networks went into service around that same time. EVDO was developed in the late 90s (97-99 timeframe), and is still here 15 years later.

So, really, us Americans build something and "it becomes useless down the track"? What a load. I'd say a 20 year old technology held up pretty good, considering it's probably going to be a 30 year old technology by the time it's retired from voice use. But it's not European, so it must be inferior. (hint: LTE is not a European technology, and the first WCDMA networks went into service in Japan in 2001 and were in use in the United States in 2004, before most of Europe).

CDMA has been up and running since the 90s, and with EVDO it kept pace with 3G GSM technologies. People bemoan the max speed of 3.1Mbit/sec on Rev.A (which is higher with newer Protocol Revisions), but that is per sector, per 1.25MHz EVDO channel. A cell site has 3 sectors with multiple channels running. So yeah, the MAX you'll ever get on your handset is 3.1Mbit/sec (darn) , but it's not like one site is only capable of providing 3.1Mbit/sec to all its users. If you look at the spectral efficiency of 5MHz of EVDO (3 EVDO channels, the minimum channel size is 5MHz for one channel of 3G WCDMA), it's somewhere around 9.3Mbit/sec. Not bad for a technology older than UMTS. If you want to get really technical, Rev. B bumps a 5MHz channel up to around 15Mbit/sec and drops latency to around 40ms.

You make it sound like CDMA was installed in 2005 and died on the vine. Nothing is further from the truth.

If your beef with American-developed technologies is that they keep running fine for so long that greedy operators fail to move forward until the last possible second, then say that. But saying that our technologies don't scale really is untrue.


bbeesley
VIP
join:2003-08-07
Richardson, TX
kudos:5
reply to Cheese
said by Cheese:

I said there will be something BETTER in 6 years.

and there will be something better six years after that...this platitude is relatively obvious to anyone with a pulse

I still maintain that your suggestion that they wait for something better is nonsensical.

If they were to follow your advice, they would never deploy anything.


Cheese
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Again, point out exactly where I said they should wait? Reading comprehension, it does wonders.


bbeesley
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join:2003-08-07
Richardson, TX
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said by Cheese:

Again, point out exactly where I said they should wait?

"I think it will be a waste to roll out LTE now"

yep, can't imagine how I would have gotten the impression you suggested that.



Cheese
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said by bbeesley:

said by Cheese:

Again, point out exactly where I said they should wait?

"I think it will be a waste to roll out LTE now"

yep, can't imagine how I would have gotten the impression you suggested that.

Again, no where in that post, do I say they shouldn't. I said "I think"... that's called an opinion.

I guess you see what you want to see


bbeesley
VIP
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Richardson, TX
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said by Cheese:

Again, no where in that post, do I say they shouldn't. I said "I think"... that's called an opinion.

And I classified your reasoning behind that opinion as specious

that said, I'll bite

what do you "think" they should deploy now to get market share and revenue.