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Comments on news posted 2012-12-12 17:45:49: Wireless upstart FreedomPop today announced that the company has entered the home broadband market with a new service that provides up to 1GB of usage, for free. ..



FFH
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Tavistock NJ
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Connects them all to the Clearwire WiMax network - LOL

A service with an infrastructure that barely exists and where it does exist, coverage is like swiss cheese with lots of holes. It LOOKS LIKE a wonderful offering - until you try to actually use it.



Rob
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Kendall, FL
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said by FFH:

A service with an infrastructure that barely exists and where it does exist, coverage is like swiss cheese with lots of holes. It LOOKS LIKE a wonderful offering - until you try to actually use it.

That's because, unlike AT&T and VZW, Clearwire doesn't have the billion dollar+ backing that those incumbent received over the last decade. And to show their appreciation, they gouge us, lie to us, lobby our government, and hand over our information to our government without a cent of concern for our privacy.

FreedomPop is picking up momentum, and overtime Clearwire will expand their network, if AT&T and VZW doesn't get in their way.
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NotTheMama
What Would Earl Do?

join:2012-12-06
reply to FFH

Here's my (lack of) coverage map--green is good (and it's all around me):


See that little dot in the middle? That's me.


But, as with cell service back in the '80s, I'm sure it'll improve. (heh-heh)
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kem09030

join:2004-11-29
Rushville, IL
reply to Rob

said by Rob:

FreedomPop is picking up momentum, and overtime Clearwire will expand their network, if AT&T and VZW doesn't get in their way.

Clearwire is no longer expanding WiMAX service. At some point next year they are going to try to get a bit of LTE up and running. If you have WiMAX you will have it for a few years to come. No WiMAX, it isn't coming. I wonder if this will be available when/if Clear gets LTE going. Clear may not be around at that time...having been bought by Sprint or Dish.


meeeeeeeeee

join:2003-07-13
Newburgh, NY
reply to NotTheMama

said by NotTheMama:

But, as with cell service back in the '80s, I'm sure it'll improve. (heh-heh)

Yeah... but I'm OLD. I probably won't LIVE that long and if I do, may not even know what the Internet IS anymore (or my own name).
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ConstantineM

join:2011-09-02
San Jose, CA

Any way to avoid overages with this thing?

I was thinking about signing up with one of their offers, until I realised that it doesn't look like there's any kind of thing to prevent you from going over the allotted free usage, and being charged hefty overage fees.

Is that basically their whole business model, to surprise heavy users with overage fees, or is there some way to actually use the service without overages, and simply choose to be automatically disconnected once you are over your quota? Or, at the very least, have some kind of a setting to limit overage fees to something like at most 5$/mo, and then be disconnected?

Otherwise, thanks, but no thanks. T-Mo would be cheaper, faster and with actual coverage and throughout the nation.


Mr Matt

join:2008-01-29
Eustis, FL
kudos:1

1 recommendation

Great idea to far away.

In view of the fact that there is such limited coverage across the United States the company left out an "o" in the name of their company. Until FreedomPop provides universal coverage they should call themselves FreedomPoop!


silbaco
Premium
join:2009-08-03
USA
reply to Rob

Re: Connects them all to the Clearwire WiMax network - LOL

I don't think that is the reason. US Cellular has solid coverage in their territory with less financial backing than Clearwire.

Clearwire simply has high frequency spectrum and they did not building out their network accordingly.



88615298
Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness
reply to NotTheMama

nearest coverage to me is 70 miles away and the people there already have Comcast and U-verse to choose from. Why bother with this?


watmore

join:2007-07-27
La Pointe, WI
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reply to ConstantineM

Re: Any way to avoid overages with this thing?

You are right.

I signed up for the free 500mb plan. Although it is hard to find online I made sure that I would NOT be automatically charged for overages. Inspite of that I was charged $30 without my knowledge for a single session of usage. I should point out I had checked my monthly usage online before this session and it was small.

Learned of the charge when I got my VISA bill. Called FreedomPop and was told that Clearwire only updates an individual's usage once a day so even if you check the "no automatic" overages box, you will still be charged for overages.

Won't be using it again.



NotTheMama
What Would Earl Do?

join:2012-12-06
reply to 88615298

Re: Connects them all to the Clearwire WiMax network - LOL

Why did people bother with DSL back in... uh-oh, they say your memory is the first thing to go... well, somewhere back in the '80s or '90s? It has potential, though it may only turn out to be the potential to fail. From small beginnings...
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iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
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reply to FFH

Clearwire works better with high-powered desktop modems than with low-powered mobile devices. This is from experience, comparing a WiMAX phone (Epic 4G) and a WiMAX hotspot (Clear Spot Voyager) to the Clear Hub Express desktop modem.

Honestly, this is the use case where a WiMAX network in 2500 can be used from a reasonable coverage perspective. Versus a mobile context where the devices just can't pick up the signal well enough to do anything useful with it much of the time.


iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
kudos:2
reply to 88615298

...then obviously you aren't a potential customer. And someone in Clear's coverage area is.


ConstantineM

join:2011-09-02
San Jose, CA
reply to watmore

Re: Any way to avoid overages with this thing?

So, they actually do have a "please no overages" box somewhere, but it doesn't actually work? :-) How convenient!

Did you demand a refund or issue a chargeback, or did you deem it was still within the terms you've agreed to? (Or just not worth investigating/bothering with?)

Does their access device not offer any internal (but user-accessible) statistics on usage? As a system software engineer, I can tell you that it's entirely possible and relatively trivial to design something like that, and have a captive portal that would take over once you are within a certain percentage of usage, on which you could decide what to do next. Of course, whether or not you have something like that is defined by a business need. :-) On my unlocked Google Nexus, I know exactly how much data I've used in any given period, even without having to consult any on-network billing departments. On the other hand, I haven't heard of Apple implementing any service as rich and detailed yet.



Simba7
I Void Warranties

join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT

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reply to NotTheMama

Re: Connects them all to the Clearwire WiMax network - LOL

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The (lack of) coverage
Ha. Better than me.

Bob61571

join:2008-08-08
Washington, IL

FreedomPop keeps inviting me to their beta, but....

I live 3 hours from their closest market!!!

Couldn't they do basic marketing, and analyze their email list (by the zip codes that they entered months ago)?


elray

join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA

The Price is Right

10GB quota for $10 is more than adequate for us, and most everyone we know.

Too bad our local government assures we alone have no Clear coverage.
Not that I expect the service to perform as advertised; we'll never know.


watmore

join:2007-07-27
La Pointe, WI
reply to ConstantineM

Re: Any way to avoid overages with this thing?

They would not give me a refund. Told me it was in the "terms of usage". The representative also told me that Clearwire only sends Freedom Pop an update of individual usage "once a day".



AVD
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join:2003-02-06
Onion, NJ
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reply to FFH

Re: Connects them all to the Clearwire WiMax network - LOL

said by FFH:

A service with an infrastructure that barely exists and where it does exist, coverage is like swiss cheese with lots of holes. It LOOKS LIKE a wonderful offering - until you try to actually use it.

either it works or it don't. For home systems, worth the try.
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