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Comments on news posted 2012-12-16 11:09:23: Our thoughts are with everyone impacted by the horrible tragedy in Newtown, Connecticut. . ..


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Have a nice weekend

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The pro-gun people claim that you can prevent these types of things from happening if you just arm EVERYONE. So, lets use the same analogy to nuclear weapons. Should we just let everyone have them? Its this same issue on a much larger scale. Lets give one out to each country, lets see what happens.

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Re: Have a nice weekend

Right, because you can legislate this problem away just like drugs, and DWI, and even something mundane like speeding. Oh wait...

Laws only apply to the law-abiding. Preventing me, as a law abiding citizen, from the right to bear arms does absolutely nothing to prevent things like this tragedy.

That said, had one or more of the staff been armed it might not have been quite so bad (or maybe worse, who am I to say?). Where I'm from you at least have to consider that the person you are attacking might be legally armed.

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Time for the "Arms" Delers to be put in Jail too

I think its time for the dealers of these weapons to be charged too. The people who provide the weapons for massacres to mentally unstable people are just as guilty.

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Re: Time for the "Arms" Delers to be put in Jail too

Yes, because clearly the goal is to provide weapons for massacres.... so anyone who manufacturers or sells guns is a "massacre-enabler", right?
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Re: Time for the "Arms" Delers to be put in Jail too

said by KrK:

Yes, because clearly the goal is to provide weapons for massacres.... so anyone who manufacturers or sells guns is a "massacre-enabler", right?

I am sure a Military Grade Weapon(NATO 5MM) Rifle is used for hunting right ?

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Re: Time for the "Arms" Delers to be put in Jail too

For most everyone, Probably not.

Any gun could potentially be used for a massacre... but then again so can hundreds of other things. You can't just ban them all and imprison anyone who sells such items.

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said by KrK:

Yes, because clearly the goal is to provide weapons for massacres.... so anyone who manufacturers or sells guns is a "massacre-enabler", right?

Are you serious? There's bunches of company's that make old and fashioned war weaponry.. Some even rebuild them or you can find some in places where there for just display (still shootable however) plus you can also build your own weaponry, buy some circular saws or saw saws, some 20 pound hammer sledges, steel bars.. heck you can even make your very own explosives with compacted gun powered into a tight sealed container or use some bleach, set it up to where it acts as if its tear gas, etc.

There's all kinds of recipe's for explosives, the list goes on and on, so does making your own weapons.
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said by Kommie:

I think its time for the dealers of these weapons to be charged too. The people who provide the weapons for massacres to mentally unstable people are just as guilty.

This is as retarded as saying dealers of food made you fat.

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Re: Time for the "Arms" Delers to be put in Jail too

said by me1212:

said by Kommie:

I think its time for the dealers of these weapons to be charged too. The people who provide the weapons for massacres to mentally unstable people are just as guilty.

This is as retarded as saying dealers of food made you fat.

Its not retarded, it was his way of thinking... maybe your the one retarded(:

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28 Killed in Connecticut School Shooting.

This is awful, how many more school shootings are they gonna do? When I was in school (that was couple years ago) there was all kind of them, tragic.
I still remember the very day I was in the 6th grade, it was a good day and i was in life connections class and all the sudden on the the principle's of both high and middle school decided to take everyone outside safe and sound but first bring the students to the front of the school to where they were held up till the cops arrived. What it was, was some students planned to do a huge bust, some student on the bus overheard from there little plan and got to see a little "sneak peak" of what they had, they had baseball bats, some dangerous weapons, some type of grenades and much more, they carried it all straight to there locker, with the girl that overheard the plan, later that day, well they found all the weapons and they got arrested.

Its a huge surprise, usually this type of school never gets this type of thing. its more of a fake bomb threat, witch it was but it turned out being way more of a almost shoot-out. (of course if that girl had'nt overheard the conversation and then tale-taled)
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Re: 28 Killed in Connecticut School Shooting.

It started with Charles Whitman in 1966

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Re: 28 Killed in Connecticut School Shooting.

Really? Look up... Howard Unreh.

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No, it started when one caveman discovered that a club smashed other cavemen's skulls better than his fists. Ever since then, it's been a technological race to find better ways to kill the other guy. Homicide is a sad facet of the human condition... and one it doesn't seem we'll be rid of anytime soon.
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said by diablo1892:

This is awful, how many more school shootings are they gonna do? When I was in school (that was couple years ago) there was all kind of them, tragic.

How many is, "all kinds"? I found a list of school shootings in the U.S.; are there others?
»www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Dea···4376.php
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Lets be considerate in discussion on recent events

Lets be respectful on our discussion on the recent tragidy in Newtown, CT. My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families.

The news of the incident hit me personally brought back painful memories of what happened to me during my middle school years (which I am not going to get into too much detail of as it is a private matter for me) but the incidents today caused me to have a painful flashback.

I am very upset about what happened today not only for the victims and their families but it painfully reminds me of the hostile school environment that I was in back in middle school and the fallout (that I prefer to keep the details private).

I had to turn the news off and watch the previously recorded stuff on my DVR.

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Re: Lets be considerate in discussion on recent events

Hope you are doing well, current events can often bring past experiences to the forefront.

I agree with the sentiment of your post. I hope the discussion here can focus on the victims & their families and leave out the political sniping & cheap shots.

Their will be plenty of time for that down the road. Let's show the victims & families the proper respect, allow them to grieve in peace & not be resigned to being pawns in our broken political system.
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Re: Lets be considerate in discussion on recent events

Our country is not the only one to remember families and children in today. China also suffered a school violence incident today
»www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-575···injured/
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Re: Lets be considerate in discussion on recent events

Point well taken. Human suffering knows no nation, no race, no culture.

Just sadness...
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this shooting reminds me of the other shootings...

The shooting in Connecticut reminds me about the shootings in Canada. If I recall, there have been at least two shootings in Toronto, Ontario, Canada.

There was a shooting down at a busy food court at the Toronto Eaton Centre (one of the city's tourist attractions) in Toronto, Ontario, Canada back in June 2012 in which one person died along with four others injured.

A month later (but still in Toronto), there was another shooting in a neighborhood in Scarborough (a place within the City of Toronto boundaries), in which 2 people were killed.

It also brought me memories about the Dawson College shooting in Montreal, Quebec, Canada in 2006 and the shooting down at the University of Montreal in 1989.

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Re: this shooting reminds me of the other shootings...

If I remember, one of the young ladies who survived the Montreal shooting lost her life in the Aurora shooting....
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Re: this shooting reminds me of the other shootings...

I think it's the Toronto shooting back in June 2012, no?

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said by N3OGH:

If I remember, one of the young ladies who survived the Montreal shooting lost her life in the Aurora shooting....

That would be correct.
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US Banks come under cyberattack again

»www.csmonitor.com/USA/2012/1214/···websites

The latest cyberattack mirrors one in early fall that targeted websites of major US banks.

In the crosshairs are U.S. Bancorp, JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America, PNC Financial Services Group, and SunTrust Banks, according to a message posted Monday on pastebin.com

attacks as coming primarily from three botnets – a network of coopted machines that have become zombie slaves to an outside operator. One botnet in particular, called Brobot or "itsoknoproblembro," is being used in the bank attacks. Two other botnets, KamiKaze and AMOS, also are being used

The size of the attack is enormous but not unprecedented – in the range of 60 gigabytes per second.

Some banks were reporting their websites still operating, although more slowly than usual. Customers reported access problems. One targeted bank, PNC, acknowledged the attack in a note to customers on its website.

Is your access to any of the above banks slowed??
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Re: US Banks come under cyberattack again

Can't get to Chase this morning.

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said by no__1__here:

Can't get to Chase this morning.

I got to Bank of America OK this morning.

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Children

Twenty young children were executed today, and 20 families will be changed for ever. I am having trouble accepting this news - I grieve for the families tonight, as I can't imagine life without my own young son.

I'd like to see us all drop the politics and the gun stuff for a while if we could. The deceased are of age that need help getting dressed in the morning, and I think it would do us all a bit of good to sit back, think about that, and save the NRA/anti-NRA arguments for another time.

These children were all innocent, and lives have been ruined forever. The human being, and I use that in the loosest possible term, that did this is hopefully rotting someplace. But I don't really believe in God, or Heaven or Hell. Hell has been created though, right here on Earth, for the families of the deceased.

I'm not a pray-er, but they're all in my my thoughts and I have cried most of the night.

We need to do better as a society, as a species, as an organism renting this planet, in order to survive. If we're going to continue this sort of bullshit, then an Apocalypse where we're all gone can't come soon enough. Human Experiment Completed.
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Re: Children

And six adults lost their lives trying to protect those children to their very end. They confronted an armed lunatic with no thought to their own safety and well being, only that of the children. They tried to shield the children with there own bodies, giving their own lives so that the children might live. We saw the worst and the best that humanity has to offer that day. I don't think I'll stop crying for a long time.
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It's time ...

How many 5 year-olds will have to die before we enact some meaningful gun control laws in this country?

The right of a child not to be shot in their own school trumps your right to bear arms. It's as simple as that.
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Sad news and my thoughts and prayers go out to all hurt and forever changed by this tragedy but can making laws to stop or limit guns really change any thing?

Think about this for a moment people if we got rid of all the guns in this world, people would find other ways like bows, sling shots, knives, or even just blunt objects. Laws to limit or ban any item just will have the human element move to a new item to cause harm or kill. So unless we all just change the human element nothing will change with any law to try and curb this violence.

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I'm sure your laws will certainly stop criminals from doing criminal things...

Like walking into an area where guns are illegal (Such as any government building) and shooting at children at a school. Oh wait..

Isn't also killing people, and assault with a deadly weapon, a crime as well?

So this guy goes in, breaks half a million laws in the process, and you think adding gun control will make people like this break less laws?

Common sense is always lost on gun control nuts. It's funny too, considering that the types are also the types who want to legalize weed, because prohibition and the war on drugs didn't work, yet they think gun control will.

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said by newview:

How many 5 year-olds will have to die before we enact some meaningful gun control laws in this country?

From 1934 to the present numerous gun control laws have been passed in the U.S.; both at the Federal, and state level. Were none of them "meaningful"? What would you consider, "meaningful"?
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The real issue is. . .

The guns Glock & Sig used were owned and registered to the mother and readily available. The kid killed his mother and sated his rage on the children who got more of her attention than he did.

This did not happen at high school, college, or to adults at a theater. It was not an accident. The shooter died a craven coward who massacred young defenseless children.

The blood and guts are gone. The real victims went to school as small children and came home as little adults who witnessed more in five minutes than most of us will ever see in a lifetime.

The smartest thing the mothers can do is turn on Mickey mouse and let it run for 24/7. Give him a blanket and pillow and let him sleep where he can. It might be a closet or a corner behind a chair. Let the kid work it out as best he can for a few days. He may not eat or sleep for 2-3 days. Finger foods are good... dry cereal, peanut butter, soup. He will come back to earth in good time. Then the parents can worry about PTSD. They will know more by then.

Close the school 'til January. Let the kid grieve. It is a long process; do not force him back to school. Home school if he is not ready. Little kids are more resilient than big kids. Even so, time takes time to pass. It's what they need now.

Some parents will be really lucky because their kid really doesn't understand. He is unaffected now, but maybe not a month from now. Or a year.
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Comcast big & getting bigger: interview with CEO

And interview with Comcast's CEO and biggest shareholder Brian Roberts on where Comcast is going:
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Googles map app for iphone gets good reviews

The Google map app is now available on the Apple app store and it is getting good reviews.
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»ibnlive.in.com/news/review-new-g···-11.html

One thing was disappointing to me and that is the Google map app is designed strictly for the iPhone and when run on the iPad, no special optimization for that platform is done.
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28 People massacred ... including 20 children

... and we still can't discuss limiting the ownership of "automatic" or "semi-automatic" weapons by U.S. citizens? This "there are alternative weapons available to kill regardless of gun laws" argument just doesn't wash. There is no justification for individuals to own rapid fire guns designed to kill only. ALL of those victims of the recent mass knifing incident *survived*.

Just as we try to limit the availability of explosives and other WMDs, we should limit the ownership of these type of guns to the military and law enforcement.

I am just devastated by these losses, and especially those who were essentially babies.... and NO, I don't want pot legalized.

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Re: 28 People massacred ... including 20 children

I did see a commentary this morning (Sat) regarding requiring gun owners to somehow secure their guns. There really aren't any such laws in the US, but I have a friend who keeps all his guns in a gun safe. He doesn't have anyone living with him in his house. I never bothered to do that myself, but we did not have any children. A gun that is locked up isn't much use against an intruder, but a gun that is not locked up isn't difficult for a thief to take when the owners are away. I know because I had one stolen when a burglar broke in.

There is no perfect solution.
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On a lighter note..

Anyone up for some Wal-Mart Bingo this weekend?



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That was great! I needed that!

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Cox subs now can use watch ESPN

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Taking guns away?

You let them take all the guns away- assuming that could be done- and home invasions would go through the stratosphere. We ALL know what THAT would bring.
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said by Mercurybird:

...home invasions would go through the stratosphere.

???

Haha... You think the only thing keeping them at bay now is the possibility that the home owner has a gun?!?! If it weren't for that, everybody and their brother would be doing them? So then they are through the stratosphere in countries where private gun ownership is not permitted?

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"More Gun Laws will not cure people with a mental illness"

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Harrible tragedy in Newtown

Let me first say: I wish i could turn back the hands of time,and that day never was.

Evil has always been part of human kind. (Bad people do bad things) Some humans have problems of different kinds. When we talk about control of this or that. Why is it the Gun or SUV or any other machine at fault, if humans are hurt or killed.

Yes I am a gun owner, do I defend all gun owners actions no. Evil people do evil things. I just think that good and evil people should part of any discussion. The gun is a tool for good or evil, it can not harm or help without the owner.

I am also a parent and grandparent. Like myself, my children and grand's know a weapon of any kind, can do harm or good. If you hit your thumb, is it the hammers fault?
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Re: Harrible tragedy in Newtown

People do things we don't like so we call them bad. I don't believe anyone or anything is inherently 'evil' (whatever that really means) it is just a convenient excuse for something we don't understand. There was a woman in a store yesterday going on about how 'God needed these angels for some purpose and it is wrong for us to question his will... we just need to trust that God did the right thing and accept that it is beautiful.' I don't agree with that view either but it is just a valid perspective as the 'evil person'.

There is no doubt that this guy was mentally disturbed; you have to be to do something like this. Ultimately, the most productive path forward would be to better understand the psychology behind this and how to prevent it. Unfortunately, that is not the way our medical system works... they would just assume medicate everyone for a profit.
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Re: Harrible tragedy in Newtown

"I don't believe anyone or anything is inherently 'evil' (whatever that really means) it is just a convenient excuse for something we don't understand."
I think anyone except LEO showing up armed at an elementary school, college, or shopping mall with a bulletproof vest is proof enough of evil intent.
At that stage he could be armed with a gun, knife, or a bow and arrow, same response required...remove the threat.
Or commit the mentally ill person before this occurs:
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