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Re: Remember Connect Cloud introduced in June. I tend to agree with selling the brand off to HP. If anything I think HP should gravitate towards concentrating even more on being a hardware provider. That is their legacy anyhow. I think when they started to get away from that the problems really began for them. |
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| fizzled Consumer routers of around $200+ (even with Apple-esque marketing hype) are a non-starter in a bad economy.
There isn't really any affordable 10gigE gear on the market for the residential market. This is another nail in the coffin of the router market.. slow innovation.
Today you see 802.11n routers in a range of $20 to $200 which overlaps with 802.11ac on the high end. When you wade through the marketing hype, there isn't much justification for a router beyond "N" plus gigabit ethernet which are about $60 (which then makes you wonder why AC routers are 300%+ more in price). Until the industry gets their act together margins will be as weak as the innovation. That's why cisco wants to get rid of linksys.
In addition.. few tech companies want to invest in a future where ISPs will battle with customers over copyright.. |
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Re: Linksys I just wish Linksys had new models that are similar in customization options as the WRT54GL, particularly in the ability to add your own antennas. I'm not a big fan of their new "ashtray" design at all.
I ended up getting an ASUS RT-N16 when I needed something faster than the WRT54GL yet still the same ability to add your own antennas. |
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said by PeeWee:Linksys + Google? What do you think?
God, no!!
Keep Google crap out of it!!
Totally asinine suggestion even!
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said by brianiscool:If your line is less than 100Mbps I see the WRT54GL still to be useful. My home connection is now 1Gbps, so 100Mbps would not suit my needs.
In my experience, the WRT54GL (with my PC wired to it) couldn't reliably push 30Mbps WAN to LAN. Under ideal circumstances SmallNetBuilder was only able to achieve 53Mbps WAN to LAN.
»www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/r···rts/view |
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Re: Or just rebrand Linksys as Cisco said by Sebehk:I second on the Apple AirPort Extreme. Don't get me wrong…I owned several Linksys routers in the past (before Cisco buyout); they were awesome routers and they were very customizable, especially with third-party firmware.
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As have I. I still have a Linksys WRT54GS, WRT160N, WRT310N, and a WRT610N that all died within the same year. (I need to clean out that storage bin.) I kept buying more expensive models hoping reliability would improve. It didn't. I finally settled on an Apple Airport Extreme (4th Gen) and it's been rock solid for 2 years now. |
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| Love that analyst speak: "because it is a mature consumer business with low margins"
Translation: the technology is outdated and not profitable
(personally, I switched to bridging Airport Extremes and Expresses ...for Macs. With mixed OS environments, Dlink has been very reliable. But now, with Gigabit Actiontec router and FiOS... )
Hey, I'm not knockin you Tomato DD-WRT guys...just most "home users" don't even know what a router does! 
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join:2004-08-01
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Re: Linksys Using open source firmware or stock firmware? |
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Are you in Kansas City? Otherwise, I don't think any other ISP in US sells gbit? None the less, the ports are 100mbit so unless your net is TRUE gbit, 100mbit is sufficient. |
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cramer
join:2007-04-10
Raleigh, NC
kudos:7 | reply to AnonFTW
Re: Or just rebrand Linksys as Cisco I, too, have an aged selection of Linksys gear. The only things that have actually failed have been the power bricks.
(I still have funtional WAP11's. I don't use them, of course!) |
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 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | reply to jc100
Re: Linksys ... and it predates the Cisco takeover.  |
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openbox9Premium
join:2004-01-26
japan
kudos:2 | reply to cramer
Re: Or just rebrand Linksys as Cisco Agreed. I'm not sure why Cisco ventured into the low end consumer market anyway. Given Cisco's traditional margins, it was a horrible move. And, slapping the Cisco brand on a $79 piece of plastic was even worse. |
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openbox9Premium
join:2004-01-26
japan
kudos:2 | reply to tmc8080
Re: fizzled said by tmc8080:There isn't really any affordable 10gigE gear on the market for the residential market. Perhaps focus should be on getting better, low cost 1 Gbps gear in the consumer market first along with the connectivity for it. The market for residential 10 GbE is minuscule at best given most consumers' configurations in their homes.said by tmc8080:margins will be as weak as the innovation. That's why cisco wants to get rid of linksys. Yes, the product line is minimally profitable. That's why I still scratch my head as to why Cisco bought a consumer line of low margin hardware in the first place. Horrible execution of capital, IMO. |
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 antdudeA Ninja AntPremium,VIP
join:2001-03-25
United State
kudos:4
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Re: Linksys said by jc100:They make even better routers to use with open source firmware DD-WRT, Tomato, etc. Their own firmwares are so so. However, throw on a third party and you've got yourself a rock solid router.
WRT54GL is a SUPER OLD model, but is still being sold years and years later and has 3768 reviews on newegg.
Why? It works great, hardly ever freezes, and is the most rock solid piece of equipment around. To add icing to the cake, I own one and put DD-WRT on it. I couldn't ask for more.
Cisco spells quality and there are a lot less desirable brands in the router market. Netgear (own one personally) is not bad but no where near cisco quality.
I don't know about that. I seem to have bad luck with Linksys routers. See my »How long do Linksys routers last? forum thread. 
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 thenderScreen tycoonPremium
join:2009-01-01
Brooklyn, NY
kudos:1 | reply to kerya666
I agree. Go two feet away from one of those newer space age looking routers branded cisco and I get 220 KBps max on wifi. My wrt54g ran rings around it in the same apartment. |
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join:2001-10-21
Madera, CA | reply to cork1958
said by cork1958:said by PeeWee:Linksys + Google? What do you think?
God, no!! Keep Google crap out of it!! Totally asinine suggestion even! The only Ass here is you for thinking that insulting someone makes you feel intelligent. I was only entertaining the thought of android as an operating system and the confusion that would follow after 50 or so dev's develop their own versions. It was a joke. I will though apologize for going over your head.
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 RRedlineRated RPremium
join:2002-05-15
Williamsport, PA | reply to jc100
said by jc100:WRT54GL is a SUPER OLD model, but is still being sold years and years later and has 3768 reviews on newegg.
Why? It works great, hardly ever freezes, and is the most rock solid piece of equipment around. To add icing to the cake, I own one and put DD-WRT on it. I couldn't ask for more. I have two WRT54GL's in my house, and one of them is like six years old. I have Tomato firmware on each one, and they are rock solid. I have never had one lock up. They just WORK. I also set up my mom, my sister, and a few friends with the same thing, and they have all been working great for years.
That said, the technology definitely is getting old. Is there an 802.11n version of the WRT54GL? What I mean is, is there a router with newer technology that is considered a workhorse like the reliable WRT54GL was? The ability to install third party firmware like Tomato or DD-WRT would be great, unless the stock firmware is good enough. I would like to move up to the newer wireless technologies, but I don't want to lose the reliability and power that comes with a WRT54GL with Tomato.
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bn1221
join:2009-04-29
Cortland, NY | reply to tmc8080
Re: fizzled Yes there is so much demand for 10G at home. I have a hard time finding decent 10GG gear for my offices. |
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 vpokoPremium
join:2003-07-03
Boston, MA | reply to RRedline
Re: Linksys This is why I have a separate router (ZyWall) and access point (actually a router being used as an access point). |
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