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Comments on news posted 2012-12-17 18:58:39: Google has announced that they'll start "picking up the pace" with their Google Fiber deployments in the Kansas City area next year, while announcing their next target "fiberhoods" to be built out. ..

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IowaCowboy
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Springfield, MA
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Here's the viable neighborhoods where I live

In Springfield, MA Google would probably deploy fiber in Indian Orchard, Pine Point, Sixteen Acres, Forest Park, East Forest Park, and East Springfield as those are the more viable neighborhoods and Verizon would probably deploy FiOS in those areas as well (if they ever restart FiOS deployments).


Lou75

join:2009-02-05
New York, NY

Nice deployment chart

Why can't Verizon create a similar chart for their FIOS deployment in NYC? Hey Verizon, can you hear me now?



ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
kudos:2

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reply to IowaCowboy

Re: Here's the viable neighborhoods where I live

Ummmm , who told you Google was coming to Springfield MA

lol



ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
kudos:2
reply to Lou75

Re: Nice deployment chart

This is a joke, announcement of "fiberhoods" is hillarious. Lets not mention anything about Google expansion unless theyre getting out of the planned 2 cities.



IowaCowboy
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reply to ITALIAN926

Re: Here's the viable neighborhoods where I live

said by ITALIAN926:

Ummmm , who told you Google was coming to Springfield MA

lol

I am not saying they are, but Kansas City shares many of the urban characteristics that Springfield, MA has.


Dominokat
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Boothbay, ME
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How about Boothbay?

We only have about 5500 people here. It should not take too much to wire this town!


decifal

join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN
kudos:1

well

Well.. least someone is getting fiber.. Keeps Kansas city on the list of potential "move to " locations being they have allowed actual fiber competition to arrive...

TN we as far as I know only have chattanooga with their plan, but i'm sure ATT/Comcast are in the process of having it become illegal..

For the consumers best interest of course that is...


NYGiants

join:2012-08-31
united state
reply to IowaCowboy

Re: Here's the viable neighborhoods where I live

I only have one neighborhood and its called non wired land with 25 acre farms in which even DSL wont come.



miataman

join:2010-10-27
Chelmsford, MA
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reply to decifal

Re: well

LOL + OT.... and just what kind of neighborhood is "Dub's Dread" ??
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"My hat, my cane, Jeeves".



DataRiker
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reply to ITALIAN926

Re: Nice deployment chart

Man you really hate google



ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
kudos:2

No, they simply dont deserve the headlines. What are they the 10th largest FTTP provider in this country?



NotTheMama
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join:2012-12-06

But have you seen all of the other broadband headlines? I'd say Google Fiber is in the top 10 in more ways than one. Really... who doesn't want 1gbps symmetrical for the same price as 1/20th of that speed (if you're lucky)? And that's not even the best part of the deal. I don't have to be able to get it in order to see it as "good news".
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tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY
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pick a fight

Until this squeezes into sensitive markets of AT&T, Comcast and Verizon.. GF will have very little impact to the industry-- a customer base of 8 million customers or more for example (per state).

Some reasonable battleground states (for broadband).. North Carolina, Pennsylvania, West Virginia. Then Michigan, Georgia, Illinois, etc.



kpfx

join:2005-10-28
San Antonio, TX
reply to NotTheMama

Re: Nice deployment chart

But there's the rub. Do I want 1 Gbps? Heck yeah. But do I want to pay an extra $240 a year when my 20 Mbps cable modem is working great for my needs? Not really....

Why? Until we see the Killer Internet App that needs that kind of speed, I don't see why I should pay for this "experiment".

I'm a huge Google fan, but this is just numbers for bragging rights. Show me why I need that speed and how it will make my life better, then you can take my money.

And that's something I think Google could do... but there hasn't been any hint of it yet.


sandman_1

join:2011-04-23
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But that too is the "rub". How can anything new be invented for what the incumbant ISPs want to do, which is to stagnant? People have such short memories of what broadband did to the Internet when they first started offering years ago. Look at how rich in content the Internet is now as it has matured. I say bring the Gbps and let smart people figure out neat things to do with it.



NotTheMama
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join:2012-12-06
reply to kpfx

Sorry... not following you there on the "extra" $240 (does that mean you're currently paying $50/mo?). The prices in my area for FiOS at about the typical speed offered (not the absolute "slowest", nor the fastest--I'm paying close to $60 and it's about the cheapest price available (the last time I checked), and it's nowhere near even 50mbps for download and even less close for upload) are about the same price that Google Fiber is priced for the 1gbps; there's little "extra" to speak of. But that's just FiOS. The "cable" providers around here (Comcast & Cox) are worse. Anyway, as I said, that isn't the best part of the deal: I place more value in having an "unrestrained" network connection. The speed alone may be worth it (or not--that's an individual choice); the attitude behind it definitely is as far as I'm concerned (and I'm not a fan of Google).
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"...but ya doesn't hasta call me Johnson!"


Donut

join:2005-06-27
Romulus, MI
reply to tmc8080

Re: pick a fight

+1 for Michigan.
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silbaco
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reply to ITALIAN926

Re: Nice deployment chart

Not even close to 10th. There are dozens of small companies and cooperatives serving more than Google is at the moment.


silbaco
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USA

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reply to sandman_1

People said that back in the early 2000's when dial-up dominated as the main source of internet. It didn't stop anything from being invented. Developers and inventors will move forward just like they always have, regardless of incumbents.


silbaco
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USA
reply to NotTheMama

Can you host a server on Google Fiber? Nope. Then it is not unrestrained.

The most popular internet packages purchased remain the cheapest tiers. Not the fastest, even in markets that are fairly competitive and reasonably priced. At $70 per month, Google fiber is not going to change that when the national average is ~$47 per month and people complain that is too high.



NotTheMama
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said by silbaco:

Can you host a server on Google Fiber?

Nope. Not that I have any need or desire to, but sure--it's not like I'm trying to run a business or anything. (However, that's not really what I mean by "unrestrained".)

said by silbaco:

The most popular internet packages purchased remain the cheapest tiers. Not the fastest, even in markets that are fairly competitive and reasonably priced. At $70 per month, Google fiber is not going to change that when the national average is ~$47 per month and people complain that is too high.

In principle I agree. For one person doing one thing at a time that requires the usual "high-speed" connection (aka streaming HD video), you can get by on a 5/5 tier--and there's your $47. Ummm, yeah, I'll still take Google Fiber for $70. To each his own, right?
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"...but ya doesn't hasta call me Johnson!"


JigglyWiggly

join:2009-07-12
Pleasanton, CA

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reply to Donut

Re: pick a fight

i could take advantage of that 1 gig pipe, just bcuz you can't don't mean i can't.


davidhoffman
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join:2009-11-19
Warner Robins, GA
kudos:2
reply to Lou75

Re: Nice deployment chart

Irrational paranoid delusions that if they release deployment data, the competitors in the area will acquire all available potential subscribers, buy using Jedi marketing mind tricks. Private corporations are led by irrational boards of directors chosen by extremely short sighted stock owners who think very long term investing is what happens in the next 7 days. I sit next to one of those "investors" at work. His long term investment outlook is about 3.5 days.



ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
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Oh please, one by one Verizon announced the town/cities that they entered with FiOS, they just didnt break THOSE up into "fiberhoods" . Its a ridiculous concept. Shall we break it down to street level?

"Google announces it will bring fiber to Oak Street April 1st, 2014 !"

lol



aaronwt
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join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
reply to NotTheMama

said by NotTheMama:

Sorry... not following you there on the "extra" $240 (does that mean you're currently paying $50/mo?). The prices in my area for FiOS at about the typical speed offered (not the absolute "slowest", nor the fastest--I'm paying close to $60 and it's about the cheapest price available (the last time I checked), and it's nowhere near even 50mbps for download and even less close for upload) are about the same price that Google Fiber is priced for the 1gbps; there's little "extra" to speak of. But that's just FiOS. The "cable" providers around here (Comcast & Cox) are worse. Anyway, as I said, that isn't the best part of the deal: I place more value in having an "unrestrained" network connection. The speed alone may be worth it (or not--that's an individual choice); the attitude behind it definitely is as far as I'm concerned (and I'm not a fan of Google).

My FIOS internet is only $70 a month. It's certainly not gigabit but it is the 150/65 tier. Plus FiOS combines TV, phone, and cellular along with internet. Which is why my internet is $70 a month. It would even be alot less per month with a slower tier.


aaronwt
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Woodbridge, VA
reply to NotTheMama

said by NotTheMama:

said by silbaco:

Can you host a server on Google Fiber?

Nope. Not that I have any need or desire to, but sure--it's not like I'm trying to run a business or anything. (However, that's not really what I mean by "unrestrained".)

said by silbaco:

The most popular internet packages purchased remain the cheapest tiers. Not the fastest, even in markets that are fairly competitive and reasonably priced. At $70 per month, Google fiber is not going to change that when the national average is ~$47 per month and people complain that is too high.

In principle I agree. For one person doing one thing at a time that requires the usual "high-speed" connection (aka streaming HD video), you can get by on a 5/5 tier--and there's your $47. Ummm, yeah, I'll still take Google Fiber for $70. To each his own, right?

I would love to go back to the prices I had in 1998 when I had a 5Mb/s down and 1Mb/s up tier. It was only $16 a month. But those speeds I had in 1998 are too slow for 2012/2013. So I'll keep my 150/65 tier for $70. Although I would love to pay even less but I don't see that happening.


NotTheMama
What Would Earl Do?

join:2012-12-06
reply to aaronwt

$70/mo is the "offering price" (not some special intro deal) for 15/5 FiOS. If you could get a slower tier in your package, then I doubt it would be "a lot" less. Of course, trying to compare prices with[in] bundles--especially when intro deals are invovled*--can be an exercise in futility (by design). (*It's the only time you come close to paying what the service is really worth.)

It's not really the price that's the most annoying though; it's the marketing. Oh, yes, I really need 50mbps because 15/5 is only good for email and the like (in a family of 10--or 20?--maybe). Then again, marketing for Internet service has never been all that "real world". I detest the very concept of speed & usage tiers & caps. Anyone who doesn't do any of that crap will get my money as a simple reward for doing things the way they should be done.
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"...but ya doesn't hasta call me Johnson!"


silbaco
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join:2009-08-03
USA
reply to NotTheMama

Unfortunately, you can't host a server on Google Fiber. It falls under misuse and is a violation of their ToS. I am not aware that it was originally forbidden, but it is now unless you receive a written agreement. Whether or not it will be enforced is another question.

I am not saying I wouldn't subscribe to Google Fiber either. But I think a lot of people won't because of price.



NotTheMama
What Would Earl Do?

join:2012-12-06

That's just one of the standard silly clauses every ISP throws into the ToS. That's their way of telling you that you have residential service which is not supposed to be used for business purposes (profit or non-profit). However, there's nothing specifically non-residential about having a server. It's all about the kind of traffic you get. I've had no need to run a server for some years now, but if I did have a need, then I would--regardless of the ToS. I would, however, never try to run a business using residential service; it would only be for personal use.
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"...but ya doesn't hasta call me Johnson!"


mrjoshuaw

join:2001-12-27
Blue Springs, MO
reply to decifal

Re: well

North Kansas City, just on the other side of the river from downtown KC, has had Muni fiber for the past 5 years. Their previous prices were not the best in comparison to other Muni Fiber projects, but it was a heck of a lot better then the main ISP players in their area. They have also recently increased their offerings for business and residential, but I think to get a full gig of service you have to call to get pricing.

They only offer internet service at the time, but in comparison to local ISP's they have good pricing and great customer service. I just took a new job and have not gotten used to paying the inflated prices from other ISP's again!