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Comments on news posted 2012-12-21 08:49:18: Senator Ron Wyden has introduced a new bill taking taking aim at broadband usage caps. ..

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cool_coda

join:2004-09-08
Brownsburg, IN

Give them incentive to not upgrade the lines

Oh... we can cause congestion if we don't upgrade these systems. Then price gouge those using it, while also saving money by not doing those upgrades....

win/win

..but not for the consumer.


ShadowMastr
Master Of All Shadows

join:2001-09-01
Fort Pierce, FL

Awesome Ideas

The bill has some great ideas, and looks to address issues that most consumers aren't even aware of. This of course, pretty much means it's defeat.

Too much lobbying by the big guys, plus the lack of knowledge or even interest by the average consumer will make it too hard to get it passed.....

Too bad, we could really use some help in this area.....
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NotTheMama
What Would Earl Do?

join:2012-12-06

Too funny...

"...ensuring ... that caps and overages are actually being used to manage network congestion..."

means it would outlaw caps entirely (so, either no bill being passed at all or plenty of loopholes being added before being passed). Yep, works in theory.
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"...but ya doesn't hasta call me Johnson!"

elray

join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA

How long before we see the "DCIA Tax"?

This will only result in higher bills, and another round of finger-pointing when carriers try to innovate.

Industry had better counter this nonsense, and agree upon a metering standard, both software and hardware.

SunnyD

join:2009-03-20
Madison, AL

I'd settle for truth-in-advertising requirements.

How about just mandating that using the word "Unlimited" actually means "Unlimited" without any sort of encumbrance (soft cap, throttle, hard cap), otherwise you have to explicitly state the limitations and not be allowed to use the word "Unlimited" at all in your advertising, period.

I don't care if there's limitations, but don't try to bury them underneath an asterisk. Maybe if consumers actually could find hard information about what they were signing up for, they would be a little more picky about where and how they choose to spend their money.


BF69
Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to ShadowMastr

Re: Awesome Ideas

said by ShadowMastr:

plus the lack of knowledge or even interest by the average consumer

Because the average consumer only uses 50 GB a month. So if one has a 250 GB or 300 GB cap it's not an issue. Not to mention the average consumer doesn't have a clue how much a GB is and how much data their internet usage uses.

MTU
Premium
join:2005-02-15
San Luis Obispo, CA

Oh, woe is us

What will the GB's (greedy bastards) do?

axus

join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC

reply to BF69

Re: Awesome Ideas

Yep. How much download did the average user make 10 years ago? I think it's very likely we'll be over the 250 GB cap in another 10 years.

tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY

monopoly bill of right$?

WIRED broadband has no need for caps!!!
Stop protecting monopolies! DO something to increase competition to lower current prices!

Kamus

join:2011-01-27
El Paso, TX

I continue to be an optimist on this issue.

For now it does suck that we have these people getting lots of money for simply being the only game in town. But this can't stay like this for too long. Technology advancements will make sure of that. I think we only need to hold tight for 5 years or so before we see some real alternatives to these clowns.


FBGuy
Premium
join:2005-03-19
Evanston, IL

reply to tmc8080

Re: monopoly bill of right$?

I F**KING LOVE THIS COUNTRY!

AlfredNewman

join:2010-03-25
Columbus, OH

reply to axus

Re: Awesome Ideas

Nice to see the both of you getting along so well together under that rock, technologically shielded from the outside world and all it has to offer. Legal or not.

rradina

join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO

reply to BF69
Unless they drop their cable video package and seek video options from an alternative like Hulu or NetFlix. Then they will quickly realize what their cap is and the relative size of a GB. (At least in terms of how many movies fit in their cap.)


rradina

join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO

reply to NotTheMama

Re: Too funny...

Well -- it could mean that providers stop investing in upgrades in an effort to guarantee congestion. The problem is, Internet traffic is like the rush hour traffic. Everyone wants their stuff in the evening hours and monthly data CAPS don't address this problem at all. Perhaps daily "peak period" caps would address the issue. This would be similar to easing rush hour traffic by eliminating non-commuters from the roads during rush hours.


60632649
Premium
join:2003-09-29
New York, NY

We're from the government and we're here to help

Run for the hills!


BF69
Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to axus

Re: Awesome Ideas

said by axus:

Yep. How much download did the average user make 10 years ago? I think it's very likely we'll be over the 250 GB cap in another 10 years.

Probably sooner. The point is until people go over that 250 GB and get charged or disconnected they aren't going to care.


BF69
Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to AlfredNewman

said by AlfredNewman:

Nice to see the both of you getting along so well together under that rock, technologically shielded from the outside world and all it has to offer. Legal or not.

I have no idea what that is suppose to be referring to or mean.


MSauk
MSauk
Premium
join:2002-01-17
Sandy, UT

Yikes! Caps, Doesn't sound good to me

There is no congestion, period. It is all made up, BS.

Upgrade your network and use the Billions we give you every year. Stop worrying about stock prices and upgrade your network.
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BF69
Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to tmc8080

Re: monopoly bill of right$?

How do you increase competition? A cable company is not going to go into another cable companies territory especially fi the area also has U-verse or FiOS too. There isn't any money in that. Also no one is going to like another cable company putting up more wires and digging up their yards for more cabling for a service they probably won't be using anyway.


NotTheMama
What Would Earl Do?

join:2012-12-06

reply to rradina

Re: Too funny...

said by rradina:

Well -- it could mean that providers stop investing in upgrades in an effort to guarantee...

customer dissatisfaction and disaffection.

Real networks--without caps--manage congestion automatically in way that's the most fair to each user of the network--not that your typical ISP has a "real" network. Caps--for monthly usage or otherwise--do nothing useful, nothing good for users of a network. They're entirely about marketing and money (for the ISP).
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"...but ya doesn't hasta call me Johnson!"

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