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| Elbow out ESPN on to its own tier Along with all the other sports channels instead of having them rely on channel welfare for money. If HBO can do it, Disney can. Let those who actually watch World's Strongest Man, Poker and Australian dick wrestling on the deuce pay for it.
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said by skeechan:Along with all the other sports channels instead of having them rely on channel welfare for money. If HBO can do it, Disney can. Let those who actually watch World's Strongest Man, Poker and Australian dick wrestling on the deuce pay for it.
+1 to that! But then they might need a bailout! |
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| Crooked business practices Before I upgraded to the Xfinity Triple Play Premium (that includes the AnyRoom DVR, all the premiums, and the Sports Entertainment Package in the base price), I had to pay extra for the Sports Entertainment Package to get Turner Classic Movies and Fox Movie Channel (which I want those channels because my mother likes old movies).
Here's a thought: Put TCM and FMC on the expanded basic or digital preferred and put all the ESPN channels on the Sports Entertainment Package as ESPN is a sports channel. Putting TCM and FMC on a $7.95/tier is another way to milk elderly customers (many who are on fixed incomes) out of their limited dollars just so they can watch the movies of their generation. My mother is 56 years old but TCM and FMC are popular among elderly subscribers as those channels play the movies from their glory days when they were young (and grandma tells me about the days when you could get into the movies for 11 cents and popcorn and soda were 5 cents each). Now you need to mortgage the house just to afford admission to the movies. Forget about popcorn and soda, that will be a whole paycheck just to pay for that.
Grandma was a child (born 1932) during the Great Depression so people back then had very little money. Her mother died in 1934 when grandma was 2 and she was raised by her grandmother and eventually her aunt and they had very little money. They got $5 per week in welfare payments, the rent was $3.50 per week. This is in 1930s dollars.
Many people from the Depression era are very frugal, they drive in hot cars because they don't want to turn on the A/C, they buy the cheapest store brand food at Walmart, and they are very cheap with their money. Some of them keep cash in their house because they don't trust banks. |
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Re: Elbow out ESPN on to its own tier It's a vicious cycle. ESPN bids more for the NFL each time the contract is up. So Disney charges more to the providers for ESPN each contract renewal, and the providers pass on the increase to their customers, rinse and repeat. |
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Re: DUMP G4 G4 is dead. Being rebranded the Esquire channel. »G4 is dead |
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Re: Elbow out ESPN on to its own tier said by skeechan:Along with all the other sports channels instead of having them rely on channel welfare for money. If HBO can do it, Disney can. Let those who actually watch World's Strongest Man, Poker and Australian dick wrestling on the deuce pay for it.
All the low rated junk channels that only are watched by very small groups of people should be yanked from the lineups and moved to Youtube, or Hulu, or Netflix, etc. That could remove several dozen channels from each cable company's lineups. Even if these channels are only costing them $.10/customer, dumping them could chop several dollars from the monthly bill.
And putting all the sports channels in optional premium tiers would really make a dent in the bill.
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kudos:2 | And then use all that channel space for a fat HSI speed increase of course it is probably all SDV garbage anyway that would be dumped.
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Re: Crooked business practices 1) Older people do enjoy their movies
2) 56 is elderly? I'm guessing you are very very young.
56 is Middle Aged not elderly. You make someone that age appear to be an invalid. My mom is in her 60s and if my dad were alive, the mid 60s. Grandparents are approaching 90. Lifespan is a lot longer and trust me bud, 56 isn't "elderly".
Set in their ways and having not grown up with technology? - Possibly. However, by no means elderly.
Now you want elderly, check out folks in their 80s+ and then you'll definitely have the demographic you're referring to. |
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| . said by TSWYO:Hey I use that Australian dick wrestling on the deuce to show my girlfried it could be worse....
said by Boricua65:I did find a video of Colin Farrell and he is definitely hung .
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Re: Crooked business practices said by jc100:1) Older people do enjoy their movies
2) 56 is elderly? I'm guessing you are very very young.
56 is Middle Aged not elderly. You make someone that age appear to be an invalid. My mom is in her 60s and if my dad were alive, the mid 60s. Grandparents are approaching 90. Lifespan is a lot longer and trust me bud, 56 isn't "elderly".
Set in their ways and having not grown up with technology? - Possibly. However, by no means elderly.
Now you want elderly, check out folks in their 80s+ and then you'll definitely have the demographic you're referring to.
My uncle is 91 and is on Facebook almost every day and uses a smartphone. So even some of the "elderly" stay up somewhat on latest technology. But he is probably an exception. My dad is 90 and he has mastered a cable remote control. But that is the extent of his being able to deal with technology.
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said by jc100:1) Older people do enjoy their movies
2) 56 is elderly? I'm guessing you are very very young.
56 is Middle Aged not elderly. You make someone that age appear to be an invalid. My mom is in her 60s and if my dad were alive, the mid 60s. Grandparents are approaching 90. Lifespan is a lot longer and trust me bud, 56 isn't "elderly".
Set in their ways and having not grown up with technology? - Possibly. However, by no means elderly.
Now you want elderly, check out folks in their 80s+ and then you'll definitely have the demographic you're referring to.
I am not saying my mother is elderly (she is middle aged and she comes from the baby boomer generation, whom are rapidly approaching retirement) but they do play a lot of the movies from the '60s and '70s on there. She just enjoys the older movies as her viewing preference. She also likes Law & Order (as long as the episode has Jerry Orbach in them).
What I was saying that those channels are popular among the older generation. The point to my post is to address the fact they charge extra for channels popular among the older generation (many of them on fixed/low income). There was controversy a few years ago when Comcast wanted to move EWTN (which costs Comcast nothing in carriage costs) to the expanded basic from limited basic and that channel is popular among elderly viewers as well and basic is $5.32 per month whereas expanded basic is $60 per month. The mayor of Holyoke (MA) where the controversy was taking place even offered to forfeit a PEG channel but Comcast would not budge. Comcast made some lame excuse. Milking elderly or disabled customers is not an ethical business practice.
Comcast and Time Warner should bring on the carriage disputes with ESPN and drop them if necessary to get ESPN to cave in with lower fees. Comcast seems to never have carriage disputes but Time Warner is famous for carriage disputes. |
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My grandfather is 88 and uses Email and basic browsing. My cousin has helped my 89 year old grandma use skype.
However, we're talking EXCEPTIONS to the general rule. I'd say a large majority the WWII Era generation (80 plus) aren't abreast with computers.
Of course, computer literacy increases with each prior generation. Individuals my mother's age (60+) or say 50-70 are moderately to mildly proficient. Again, we're generalizing but you've got a lot of diversity within this subset.
30-49 I'd say are pretty proficient though some segments aren't connected. I fall into this category. I've got friends who can't do more than email and basics, but own smartphones, and so on. Others are a lot more tech savvy than I. The large majority know computers to some degree.
29 and Younger I'd say are proficient and grew up with technology. Depends on what Generation Expert, 29 and younger are Millennial. Population Census Bureau lists anyone 1983+ as Gen Y (1982 is a Cusp Year with Some listing it as "X" and Others "Y"). All agree 1983 is Gen Y. Kids in this group other than the oldest have had technology their whole life and run laps around the above. |
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T.V. Stations know their demographics and how to monopolize on revenue. Public outcry en masse is the only way to enact a reversal of policy. A few people complaining is overlooked as a couple of unhappy individuals. The good thing about truly old people is if you mess with their stubborn ways, they do speak out. |
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My mother (56 years old) is pretty proficient using a Mac and surfing the web. She likes to play computer games and go on forums (she is not on DSLR as she does not share the same interests that I have). She knows the operation side of computers but does not know much about the technical side. She has a basic phone (Samsung Convoy II) on my Verizon ShareEverything plan and she knows how to operate that. She uses her cell phone for her primary phone but uses the home phone to locate her cell phone as she is notorious for misplacing it in the house. I use the home phone at home and my iPhone 5 on the go and the home phone (Comcast digital voice) also feeds the burglar alarm dialer.
I am 29 years old (born 1983). |
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Re: Elbow out ESPN on to its own tier said by Linklist:...dumping them could chop several dollars from the monthly bill.
Yeah, 'cause when a provider does something to save itself money, the money saved naturally gets passed along to the customer. (hahaha)
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