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Comments on news posted 2012-12-28 16:39:05: Back in 2008 Congress passed the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), which not only retroactively gave the government a pass for years of illegal spying on its own citizens, but gave companies like AT&T a get out of jail free card for helpi.. ..

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rdmiller

join:2005-09-23
Richmond, VA

Older than you think!

FISA was first established by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978. So it goes "back" even further.

easonin
Rock Ridge, FL

join:2008-07-08

...America!

FUCK YEAH!!!


Dominokat
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Thats awesome! I love living in America where our government is free to spy on us just like in Communist countries and without a probable cause as our Constitution reads.
FUCK THE CONSTITUTION!


cybercrime

join:2011-11-23
Honey Brook, PA

one day it be

one day it be chips planted in are body ether by scanning of part of body to pay for idems and or to track you.

meeeeeeeeee

join:2003-07-13
Newburgh, NY

But they must protect the Amerikan Sheeples...

There are terrorists and boogie men and child pornographers hiding behind every bush. Have another Koolaid dear sheeples.

brianiscool

join:2000-08-16
Tampa, FL
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NSA

NOT SAMUEL ADAMS


KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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Who are these people voting NO

... not only authorizing it, but refusing to allow even some BASIC OVERSIGHT by voting NO on very modest improvements.

Anyone who voted for re-authorization and against the amendments should be ejected from office!
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said by KrK:

... not only authorizing it, but refusing to allow even some BASIC OVERSIGHT by voting NO on very modest improvements.

Anyone who voted for re-authorization and against the amendments should be ejected from office!

Here is the votes for the bill:
»www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/r···position

Senator Dianne Feinstein (D - Calif.) chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee led those voting to extend FISA:
»www.policymic.com/articles/21589···ping-law

Feinstein argued on the floor of the Senate that electronic surveillance played a role in some of the 100 arrests in terrorism-related plots made in the last four years.

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en103

join:2011-05-02

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Re: one day it be

Of course... we're not far from it today (cell phones being tracked, TV's / STB's with cameras and microphones).

Then there will be the office of precrime


KrK
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Re: Who are these people voting NO

It doesn't list the NO voters on the amendments. Pair those two up and we have the people who re-authorized and opposed even modest oversight. They need to go.
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said by KrK:

It doesn't list the NO voters on the amendments. Pair those two up and we have the people who re-authorized and opposed even modest oversight. They need to go.

Amendement to FISA votes:
To require a report on the impact of the FISA Amendments Act of 2008 on the privacy of the people of the United States
»www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/r···position

To ensure adequate protection of the rights under the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.
»www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/r···position

To require the Attorney General to disclose each decision, order, or opinion of a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court that includes significant legal interpretation of section 501 or 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 unless such disclosure is not in the national security interest of the United States.
»www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/r···position

You are on your own to merge the votes you are interested in.
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KrK
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Just as I figured, my Representatives on the wrong side of most important issues.


Wilsdom

join:2009-08-06

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FISA, PIPA, gun confiscation--she is certainly a wicked witch.



NOCTech75
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Polarization leads to another touchdown for lawmakers

While left wing nutjobs and right wing loonies are throwing barbs at each other over gun rights, fiscal cliff and whatever else (fuck, these idiots would argue over whether scrambled eggs are better then over easy) they quietly slip this under the radar. It will be ignored at worst, glossed over at best by the lame stream media. Then it will be back to the same ole same ole the other side sucks.. all to get the vast majority of citizens to goto the polls and tick everything with an R or a D. That is the true problem.. they know all the shiny needed to divert our attention and take our rights.


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Re: Who are these people voting NO

said by Wilsdom:

FISA, PIPA, gun confiscation--she is certainly a wicked witch.

She is the big wheel on the Senate Intelligence Committee and is privy to spy info most in Congress never get to see. One of the so-called Gang of 8( »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_of_Eight ) that the President and his intelligence advisers must keep informed. Her knowledge of threats to US not shared with other legislators(because they can't be trusted not to leak info) may be the reason she is strongly backing these intelligence laws.

Current Members of the Gang of Eight
John Boehner (R), Speaker of the United States House of Representatives
Nancy Pelosi (D), House Minority Leader
Harry Reid (D), Senate Majority Leader
Mitch McConnell (R), Senate Minority Leader
Mike Rogers (R), Chair of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence
Dianne Feinstein (D), Chair of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence
Dutch Ruppersberger (D), Ranking Minority Member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence
Saxby Chambliss (R), Ranking Minority Member of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence

All 4 Senate members of the Gang of 8 voted to extend FISA.
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jc100

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Re: Polarization leads to another touchdown for lawmakers

Have you ever thought the contrived bickering is intentional to overshadow their true motives? Distract the public with pseudo problems and pull the rug out from the populous on the issues that affect our lives on a daily basis.


jester121
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Re: Who are these people voting NO

She's backing them because she's a big-government statist who would prefer if everyone outside DC would just shut up and send in money.


NOCTech75
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Re: Polarization leads to another touchdown for lawmakers

I have no doubt. Same way McCain-Feingold had NOTHING to do with campaign finance reform other then to make infinitely more difficult for 3rd parties to threaten the D's and R's.

CXM_Splicer
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Re: ...America!

said by easonin:

FUCK YEAH!!!

Ummm, are you referring to this?:

Warning: Adult content. Anyone under the age of 12 should not watch this (even though they have already seen much worse!)

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R5A0pg4oN8


Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus

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I am not going to loose sleep over this...

Nothing I can do about it anyway.

There are several hundred companies that actively track you in one way or another. Most extract anonymous data, others do the cookie thing, Still others track purchases. Dictionary.com reportedly has 240 different trackers lurking in the background, only just a few installed by Dictionary when you open an account the rest hop on for the ride. fireFox has add-ons that let you see who is tracking you, There are trackers that track trackers and on and on it goes.
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I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's.
- Mark Twain in Eruption

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