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Comments on news posted 2013-01-03 12:21:03: Canonical today unveiled the mobile version of Ubuntu, which should start appearing on smartphones sometime in early 2014. ..


brianiscool

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Failed

I don't see Linux apps to be successful as Android.


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Marketing pitch

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"You’ll see a beautiful reflection of yourself, a visualization of your life crafted by an artist, ever-changing, totally personal, and completely unique, just like you," pitched Shuttleworth during the presentation.
Aside from the creepy sounding marketing pitch, I'm looking forward to it.
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said by exocet_cm:

Aside from the creepy sounding marketing pitch, I'm looking forward to it.

Same here... say what you want about Ubuntu, but when they're determined to carve their way into a market, they make waves.
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Re: Failed

said by brianiscool:

I don't see Linux apps to be successful as Android.

Arent all android apps now linux anyway? I thought android was run on linux kernel.

decifal

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interesting

Hmm, this could be interesting


NotTheMama
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Re: Failed

Android is to Linux as Ubuntu-on-a-mobile-device is to... Linux.
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brianiscool

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No they are made from Java.

pkorx8

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Could be a good thing... for Android?

This could be a good thing for Android.
It seems one of the big challenge for Android has been the kernel developments and updates for all the different hardware platforms.
If Ubuntu goes in on this, maybe Ubuntu may share some of the kernel development efforts.

Sorry if I'm way off on this, I'm not a Linux developer.

silbaco
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Ubuntu

Canonical is grasping at straws it seems. Mobile Ubuntu will fail. They are joining the party way too late.


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said by silbaco:

Canonical is grasping at straws it seems. Mobile Ubuntu will fail. They are joining the party way too late.

I fail to see how it's "too late" for them. This industry is really just getting started.


ArrayList
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this is about far more than a mobile phone. I'm more interested in it being a thin client.

eco
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Re: Failed

Android uses the Linux kernel. However, most of the user facing parts of the OS and apps run in a Java VM like environment called dalvik and are not 'native Linux' like this mobile version of Ubuntu are claiming to be.

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Re: Ubuntu

said by ArrayList:

I'm more interested in it being a thin client.

That was one of my new year resolutions, to become a thinner client.

brianiscool

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Re: Failed

2014 will be too late. At that time Android OS will own 90% of the market share. Who wants to pay $1000 unlocked IPHONE? When you can get the top of the line Android phone for $500 plus triple the processor power?


NotTheMama
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I don't doubt that this was one of the ultimate goals of Unity from the start.
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silbaco
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Someone who sunk a lot of money into apps. Apps are good leverage at keeping people on your platform.

silbaco
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Re: Ubuntu

They are entering an industry unwilling to take any more risks. Ubuntu doesn't bring anything new to the table and they don't have an app store anywhere close to their competitors.

big_e

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Low quality incomplete software

Unity has been out for about 2 1/2 years. Overall I still consider it to be only early beta quality software. Although some linux users are patient enough to deal with the default desktop environment still being a work in progress, the general public will not be. They will want a product that has the same sets of features and polish as all the other smartphone operating systems. They do not want to be Ubuntu's beta tester, waiting for the missing feature they wanted to be partially implemented in the next six month release. Unfortunately I don't see Cannonical being able to pull this off and creating a product of sufficient quality and functionality to be usable outside a niche of linux users.


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Looking forward to it

I will


netwire
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re

This is something I am waiting for. Sure, it might take awhile but it's another option and options are good things to have. Most of the apps can run as HTML5, but of course native apps would run much better. I run Ubuntu on my laptop, Windows 8 on my Dekstop and Android (custom AOSP) on my phone but honestly if this made it out of the gates I would most likely transition everything to Ubuntu. The only real roadblock for me right now from running this on my desktop is native support for World of Warcraft
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Re: Failed

said by brianiscool:

I don't see Linux apps to be successful as Android.

^
Fail!!

Wouldn't put Ubuntu on my phone in a million years with as many times as their updates have screwed my desktop installs up! In fact, wouldn't/won't put any variation of that distro on my desktop again!!
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MyDogHsFleas
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Tough to see how this is going to achieve market share

Smartphone success is all about the apps, as long as the platform is good enough. And apps are all about developers spending resources to develop for the platform. Why would developers build for a platform that is not native to the smartphone and requires users to install/configure/maintain it, therefore guaranteeing that 90% (conservatively) of Android smartphone owners won't do that?

And remember the platform is not just what's on the phone, it's the ecosystem around it. App Store with hundreds of thousands of apps, support available from the vendor, major apps like social media and games integrated nicely. Where will that come from?

Performance and battery life are also going to be huge issues. Google and Apple spend a ton of dev resource getting these right. Can the open source community keep up?

We've already seen Canonical fail to get any traction on desktops in a decade. And that is in many ways an easier market than smartphones.


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I would say that the open source community can keep up. If you have every owned an Android phone and have tinkered with it by installing custom roms and kernels then you would know that often times these custom roms and kernels have far better performance and battery life than what the phone original came with.
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