| Great! -sarcasm-
Awesome! Roku users will be able to stream to thier TV's instead of using the cable box to show content.
Oh, wait, It's only for the Roku stick, not the larger amount of set top boxes Roku has sold?
Oh, and it's only if you already subscribe to cable TV?
Amazing. Yet another intelligent idea.
Roku, please don't act like this is wonderful.
Stop blowing smoke about such things, and instead go back to fixing your surround sound color space issues with your other devices. |
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| Possible IP TV First Step I realize that the big cable companies don't want to shake up the markets too much, but sooner or later one of them will realize that if they make an app like this available to everyone across the country (for a subscription fee, of course), they instantly expand their footprint and gain customers.
Of course, the reason they won't do this is because then the other cable companies will do the same and the competition would drive down prices. Can't have that, now can we? (Even if it winds up meaning more profits for the cable companies without rate increases.)
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Re: Great! It's not just for the Roku stick, but for most of their recent boxes.
From »www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-575···hannels/ :
"TWC TV is expected to launch this quarter on the Roku 2, Roku HD and Roku LT and the Roku Streaming Stick."
And while you still need a cable TV subscription, this means you could buy a $100 or less Roku box instead of paying the cable company for another cable box.
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| Great Idea I always felt this was a great idea. It's not instantly profitable for the cable company but it allows additional tv sets where you don't need a box and you don't need a cable run, since the roku works great wirelessly. Clearly TWC is using this as an experiment to switch to some type of wireless in house delivery. Cost of acquisition goes way down if you only have to run the cable into 1 spot in the house and then stream to all the tv's wirelessly So I assume that's on their Radar. Plus you start to make way for Video over IP we all hope is coming. There is also reduced cost of maintenance, when you don't have home owners splicing into the cable 10 times to feed the tv on the patio and the one in the shed, and the one in the basement next to the exercise machine they said they would use if they could watch tv while they used it. |
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| This is great for some I do think this is great. We have cable over here in our primary residence and with this we don't need to resubscribe with digital boxes and all for our second home. We can just stream our "home" programming to our vacation home. I also don't have to install another outlet at our detached ohana house or the garage for that matter as I can just stick a wireless roku anywhere on the property. Yay!
This is not a help for cordcutters but there are plenty of folks who are not in that bucket who have other needs. This is just another value add to retain satellite and fios/uverse folk. |
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 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to mikesterr
Re: Great Idea The question is what is the bandwidth requirement. So if you say had 3 or 4 TVs how would that effect your internet connection? |
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Re: Internet subscription? The Roku needs a broadband internet connection to work. So I guess the answer to your question is yes. |
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Re: Great Idea We have Cablevision and we have 3 TV's with Roku devices. All three can be streaming HD content with excellent quality. Cablevision"s basic tier is 15 down. |
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bn1221
join:2009-04-29
Cortland, NY Reviews:
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Re: Internet subscription? I imagine so: - The current TWC Ipad app requires a TWC IP and I tried the app at a friends house on his wifi and it worked. It didn't work at my house on my TWC RR line as it was smart enough to see i didn't have cable TV.
Would be cool if it worked on anything so if cable subs travel they coudl watch TV |
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 jmn1207Premium
join:2000-07-19
Ashburn, VA
kudos:1 | TV Anywhere Would this require a walled garden approach or can anyone just throw a Roku device in their backpack and use it to watch TV from any location with acceptable bandwidth available? |
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RaydrPremium,MVM
join:2000-11-19
Carrollton, TX | reply to Jason Levine
Re: Possible IP TV First Step said by Jason Levine:sooner or later one of them will realize that if they make an app like this available to everyone across the country (for a subscription fee, of course), they instantly expand their footprint and gain customers. I can't help but wonder what kinds of lawsuits or conflicts we'll see due to "franchise agreements" or area exclusivity agreements or something (where a city or area has agreed that Cable Company X will be the sole TV provider)? |
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Re: TV Anywhere Now that's a good question. What would stop someone from buying their mom a Roku so at her house she can have internet and one of those very limited broadcast basic accounts that are like $12 or $13 but the roku signs into the other acct and she can access all the other channels. |
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Re: Possible IP TV First Step A city should have no jurisdiction to say "XYZ's nationally available, Internet-based video service" can't be offered here because we've agreed to give Cable Company X a monopoly. Those franchise agreements might protect against a rival cable company laying down fiber to make a competing service, but a pure-IP TV play should be out of the scope of the agreement.
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Re: Great Idea I don't necessarily agree that wireless delivery of video is solid yet, but is certainly more flexible as you mention. Until the majority of folks move into 5 GHz and there is some better mechanism of reducing channel interference and QoS, wireless will be less stable than say a Moca delivery or hardwired ethernet. Even powerline in some instances.
For my remote locations in the house, I use Moca and it is 100% solid, but like you suggest I also take advantage of wireless delivery of audio and tablets. I think both have their place.
One of the big issues I have w/ Roku and why I won't buy a current gen one is because they are all 2.4Ghz radios, and ONLY if you buy the top model for $100 do you get a physical ethernet. My last generation XDS has ethernet and so I will keep it until they fix their product marketing issues.
I put a LT in my parents house, and they are only 1 device and there is NO interference in 2.4Ghz so it works no problem. I would be concerned w/ 2-3 devices and if you look TWC app will probably take 5 Mbps, so that MAY be an issue depending upon the router and conditions. The average person though has no idea of how to setup or diagnose wireless issues.
I think TWC is taking the Netflix approach and this is great, because the more devices you can access content the better. Again the issue is that this is live streaming and until they integrate it with a DVR or cloud DVR function it's useless to me because I don't watch commercials.
I do applaud them for opening up, and now that these IP STB are coming out, if they put an app on my xboxes then maybe I deprecate my W7MC because it's apparent MSFT is getting out of the biz.
If Tivo ever gets their act together (talk about lost oppys) then maybe their solution will have some weight.
One thing that is not clear yet, is what these guys will charge for these IP STB which will run them $50-$70 to acquire. |
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Alfred, ME
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Re: TV Anywhere You will only see up to the channels you are subscribed too. Also, you need to be attached to your TW internet service for it to work. Same reason why i can not use the android app and watch tv outside of my home on the cellular network.
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Re: Possible IP TV First Step Actually, exclusive franchise agreements became illegal back in the '80s, so a city can't say anything about this any more than they can say anything about satellite dishes. |
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| What's the point? OK, so, in order to get this, you have to sub to TW cable, and it will only work via your TW Internet IP, which means that you can only get the channels you already sub to, and you can only get them in the house where your cable is connected, which is the very place where you already have access to these channels. Not only that, but I'm sure it's a safe bet that this service will count against your data cap, which means you aren't going to want to use this as a full-time cable box replacement.
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 LinklistPremium
join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | reply to Jason Levine
Re: Possible IP TV First Step said by Jason Levine:Of course, the reason they won't do this is because then the other cable companies will do the same and the competition would drive down prices. Can't have that, now can we? (Even if it winds up meaning more profits for the cable companies without rate increases.)
You are contradicting yourself. If competition is driving down prices, profits would go down and not up.
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Re: What's the point? The point for me is I can watch HD cable now. I have just basic cable, but the TWC app has the channels in HD. So now I can get HD cable without renting a box from TWC. I love this idea |
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