| Tuners It should be banned for still having 3 tuners. It should have never came with only 3 in the first place. 3 tuners to record and share with all the rooms in your house. Ha!
They sound like Apple now. Slap a few pieces of old tech in it (Sling, Nomad, and Wifi), slap a new marketing blitz on it and call it revolutionary and a first! |
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tpkatl
join:2009-11-16
Dacula, GA | Same old struggle: Big Media versus technology This isn't really news, in any sense of the world. It is only another skirmish in the long-standing (and never ending) battle between the so-called content providers (CBS and the big media corporations) and the consumer technology world.
It's another example of the purveyors of last century's business model holding back technology progress in the face of advances in customer service and satisfaction.
Some day - although I doubt it will be soon - the big media companies will come to the realization that serving customer needs and wants is going to be a better approach than standing in the way of technology. They will only realize that when their intransigence begins to cost them money. |
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 nitemare
join:2000-05-11
Monterey Park, CA | as usual... trying to censor stuff just makes people want it more. yay, Streisand effect! |
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 cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:7 | reply to digiblur
Re: Tuners said by digiblur:They sound like Apple now. Slap a few pieces of old tech in it (Sling, Nomad, and Wifi), slap a new marketing blitz on it and call it revolutionary and a first!
Please point to all the previous Dish tuners that can do the same thing. Or any cable box/satellite receiver. |
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Re: Same old struggle: Big Media versus technology said by tpkatl:Some day - although I doubt it will be soon - the big media companies will come to the realization that serving customer needs and wants is going to be a better approach than standing in the way of technology. They will only realize that when their intransigence begins to cost them money. That last sentence is dead on accurate. The only thing these corporations understand - or care about - is money. Their "leadership" (if you can call it that - I think of it more as "failureship" in certain instances) will only request a course correction when it directly affects the bonus they receive. In the meantime technology, public want, and public interest is forced to take a back seat.
Though I don't obviously condone it, perhaps those who pirate television and movie content, ripping commercials from it and redistributing, inadvertently make a good point and help to bring about positive social change. If enough people simply stopped watching/spending and turned to alternative sources of entertainment, large companies like CBS would be forced into changing their business model.
Unfortunately, CBS just promotes more of the same perpetual failure with its opposition to technology like this. They should have learned something with the failed court cases against VCRs in the '80s but didn't. If their management and legal department wasn't filled with "special ed" cases perhaps that would've happened.
What's so "illegal" or "infringing" about developing a technology that allows people to skip over commercials anyway? That's essentially what we all do when we click the "30 second skip" button on our DVRs today.
BTW, automatic commercial skipping is hardly new technology... I had a couple ReplayTV boxes from the early 2000s that automatically skipped commercials on recorded programs. IIRC, the industry bullied them into changing their software too through various lawsuits. The entertainment industry needs to start being presented to America as it really is - a bunch of bullies and thugs who whine and cry like 5 years who just lost at "Chutes and Ladders" when they don't get their way. |
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| CBS owns CNET? Well, CNET just lost credibility with me.
"Dear Felicia Dey,
I loved you. But when I found that your shows are being plugged by CNET, owned by CBS, I no longer feel the same inside."
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 TwiztedZeroNine Zero Burp Nine SixPremium
join:2011-03-31
Toronto, ON
kudos:3 | CBS is just another greedy #CorportateCow. Its time to take it out to pasture. |
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| De Nile CBS is simply reinforcing the fact that they're stuck in the past and completely in denial about the state of technology. If the thing is really that good the word will get out, and all they'll accomplish by attempting to suppress it is give it more lift.
What CBS and the others should be doing is figuring out how to leverage all this new technology to retain, or even enhance, their position. Instead they seem bound and determined to let it run over them.
The railroads tried that with the budding airline industry, lo these many years ago. Look how that worked out for them.
Jim |
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 Lark3poPremium
join:2003-08-05
Madison, AL
·Knology
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Re: CBS owns CNET? said by cableties:Well, CNET just lost credibility with me.
"Dear Felicia Dey,
I loved you. But when I found that your shows are being plugged by CNET, owned by CBS, I no longer feel the same inside."
Agreed. |
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| CNET and lost respect Guess I'll have to join others in my loss of respect for CNET. If they can't be objective, truthful and unbiased in their reviews and recommends then they are WORTHLESS to a more and more discerning public which has unfortunately has long way to go (still) in being educated in technology and it's pros and cons. I include myself in that category which is why I am saddened that CNET is yet another shill tool. |
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 tschmidtPremium,MVM
join:2000-11-12
Milford, NH
kudos:8
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Re: CBS owns CNET? Yea I did not realize that either. I'll have to think twice before I use the information in any of their reviews.
Regardless of the merits in this case it dramatically exposes the dangers of media consolidation on society. Rather then having a huge number of different sources, each with their own strength, weaknesses, and biases we have a few mega corporations pulling the strings.
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 IowaCowboyWant to go back to IowaPremium
join:2010-10-16
Springfield, MA
·Comcast
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| My cable provider is a broadcaster I have Comcast (who owns NBC/Universal) and I don't see this comming to their DVRs. They may someday develop a feature where you cannot fast-forward commercials. If that happens, I'll put my TiVOs back in. I just got the CC DVR so I could get the AnyRoom (which was a free upgrade with my new triple play bundle). |
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 HallPremium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
kudos:2 | reply to digiblur
Re: Tuners Come on digiblur, in the real world, most people's lives don't center on TV 90% of the day, nor do most people have 4, 5, 6, or more TVs. We have (2) TVs connected to one Hopper and one Joey and admittedly, it's only been 2-3 weeks, but have not yet encountered a conflict.
Outside of Satguys, I've never read/heard complaints about the lack of sufficient tuners. |
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Well it can record 6 shows at once every day between 8pm and 11pm (4 local national feeds, plus 2 normal channels) that's one 1 more than the Genie |
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HallPremium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
kudos:2 | Add the OTA module and make it (7) shows.
Also, and I'm not sure how to force it, but with the most recent s/w vS234, the (4) big networks (ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC) often show up as available outside of primetime hours. It's the PTAT feature available all of the time. |
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IanR
join:2001-03-22
Madison, NJ | reply to Twaddle
Re: CNET and lost respect Why blame CNET? They wrote a great and credible review, but then had their owners lean on them and order them to act in a certain way. The CNet people certainly knew the omission would be picked up and the events come out quickly. Better that way than have CBS fire CNet writers... |
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rradina
join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO | CBS Litigation Excuse I don't understand the CBS excuse. The technical merits of a device or an editorial opinion about being good for consumers should not affect the litigation involving whether or not ad-skipping and remote streaming is legal or is harming CBS.
This just smells like an Eric Cartman response. "Screw you guys, I'm going home." (and I'm taking my toys with me). |
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 GooberPremium
join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
kudos:5
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| Commercial Skipping We had DISH installed just a few weeks ago. Two Hoppers and six Joeys. Seems to be working fine so far. I'm still undecided as to whether I like DISH, but it's not too bad and I'm in for the two year commitment.
I know the commercial skip thing is what's gotten up CBS' bum, but I have to say it's a great feature that's not really been implemented that well. Sure, there's some convenience there, but my ReplayTVs did it better and for all shows. With DISH, it's only for the PTAT shows and the commercials actually run for several seconds before the skip kicks in.
CBS are morons.
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How nice. This country is being run by a broken record repeating the same two words over and over. Cretin. |
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Re: Tuners Most cable and FiOS dvrs still come with only two, not sure what your so indignant about it only having 3. I only have two in my FiOS dvr, I'd love 3 I think that would solve 99% of my conflicts. |
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| CNET completely ignores this news I just looked at NEWS.COM, CNET's tech news site, and there's no mention of any of this. So, not only is CBS telling them not to give the Hopper an award or review Dish products in the future, but they're not even reporting on this fact.
Banning awards and reviews is bad enough, but pretending that it didn't even happen is even worse, IMHO. |
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