| Not unusual. This kind of thing happens everyday within large corporations. You just don't hear about it.
As mentioned the ongoing lawsuit is reason enough for this. It would be plain stupid not to. |
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 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to Twaddle
Re: CNET and lost respect I lost respect for CNET a while ago when it became clear they were nothing more than a cheerleader for Apple. |
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KearnstdElf WizardPremium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to tschmidt
Re: CBS owns CNET? And yet the FTC continues to allow consolidation. |
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 IowaCowboyWant to go back to IowaPremium
join:2010-10-16
Springfield, MA
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Re: Commercial Skipping I hope you don't have any problems with Dish, their customer service is poor. Different people have different experiences. My aunt lives in rural Washington state and she has Dish and she says she never had any problems. I've heard complaints about DirecTV and I had good experiences myself but it was cheaper just to get TV through Comcast since I have my Internet and phone through them anyways. Comcast is the only viable Internet in town (other than VZ DSL) so it is cheaper to bundle TV with them. Plus, you get more locals on Comcast here as they carry the Boston and Hartford stations where satellite only carries the Springfield (MA) stations only. |
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 HallPremium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
kudos:2 | reply to MovieLover76
Re: Tuners said by MovieLover76:Most cable and FiOS dvrs still come with only two, not sure what your so indignant about it only having 3. Most cable/FIOS DVRs are only connected to (1) TV. In that setup, it's fine - you can watch one program while something else records.
The Dish DVR being discussed is a "whole-home-DVR". The main unit has (3) tuners and can feed up to (4) client units, so up to (5) TVs total. Each TV would be restricted in being able to watch (5) different, LIVE channels. |
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IowaCowboyWant to go back to IowaPremium
join:2010-10-16
Springfield, MA Reviews:
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| Carriage disputes One of the TV stations (KCRG-TV) is in the middle of a carriage dispute with Dish. I am wondering if the Hopper is the sticking point into why it is currently blacked out. Maybe KCRG wants more because of the hopper.
I just fast forward the commercials, you could do the same thing back in the '90s with videotape. I cannot count how many times I've taped Home Improvement. And if you were taping it while it was broadcasting, you could pause the VCR during the commercials so they would not eat up the tape. Most tapes went up to two hours although some went up to 2 1/2 hours.
DVRs are nice but you can't pause the recording for commercials so those do eat up valuable space on your hard drive. |
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 GooberPremium
join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
kudos:5
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Re: Commercial Skipping With all the discounts and such, DISH is relatively cheaper over the two year period for me compared to Comcast (not including the price increase this year). Even including the bundle discount. We have to feed 8 TVs, so Comcast equipment charges add up to quite a bit.
DISH On-Demand blows goats, but we get more TVs covered and with the higher storage on the DVRs, we don't miss OD too much. Also, being able to stream DLNA content from my HTPC media server to any of the TVs in the house is a big plus.
I haven't had to call for help, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed there.
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 LinklistPremium
join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | reply to Hall
Re: Tuners said by Hall:Come on digiblur, in the real world, most people's lives don't center on TV 90% of the day, nor do most people have 4, 5, 6, or more TVs.
There aren't 6 shows on TV at the same time worth recording. And even with households with many people and many TVs, recording 30 hours of TV a night, nobody is going to watch all those shows. Most of what is being recorded will never be watched.
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said by Hall:Come on digiblur, in the real world, most people's lives don't center on TV 90% of the day, nor do most people have 4, 5, 6, or more TVs. We have (2) TVs connected to one Hopper and one Joey and admittedly, it's only been 2-3 weeks, but have not yet encountered a conflict.
Outside of Satguys, I've never read/heard complaints about the lack of sufficient tuners.
Typical 4 TV family here. If we had one Hopper it wouldn't last one evening before I would throw it out the window. The two bedrooms would fire up some live TV and that only leaves one tuner left. If the primetime thing was on then there would be zero tuners left in the house for live and/or recording. No thanks.
People don't understand the 3 tuner thing as they are unaware that the other rooms steal their tuner from the hopper. |
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GooberPremium
join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
kudos:5 Reviews:
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| I don't know. I was pretty aware that was happening and the DISH people also were pretty clear in explaining that.
Viewing habits are VERY household-centric. For us, 2 Hoppers are enough. If I keep DISH, I may add a 3rd Hopper, but that seems overkill. Our household seems to do fine with 6 tuners since it's mostly 2 TVs that get watched on any kind of regular basis. The other ones are mostly occasional use. Typically no more than 3 tuners are ever wacthed at the same time, if that many even. So that leaves plenty for recording.
But I can see where it wouldn't be enough if you have TVs in kids' bedrooms. We don't allow that, so 2 Hoppers is enough.
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Re: CBS owns CNET? said by cableties:Well, CNET just lost credibility with me. . . .
CNET lost its credibility a long time ago. When reviews, subject matter and product articles started to become clearly "selective and biased". And reader comments started to point this out en masse. So when Clayton said that he looked forward to CNET's "Unbiased" review, I just had to laugh at either his complete ignorance/naivete or his blatant schmoozing. All he was looking for was best of show in a forum that has enough sheeple to add to his bottom line. |
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KearnstdElf WizardPremium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to cableties
the only way to get truly impartial reviews of gear and software is to pretty much have a subscription site.
because you could not have advertising without pressure from the advertisers to give their stuff a positive review. It is why most gaming publications are crap(print and internet), They do not want to lose the ad dollars so they do not piss in any pools even if a game is so terrible it makes ET on Atari look like Final Fantasy 6(aka 3 on the SNES).
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Zoder
join:2002-04-16
Miami, FL | Firewall I thought the major networks have a firewall between their entertainment and news divisions for just this reason. Or does this only apply to their network news and not their internet properties? |
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KearnstdElf WizardPremium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | Likely only their primary news branches since those are seen by regulators as official information outlets.
Sites like CNET have been compromised by their sponsors and ownership for awhile now.
if you are a technology vendor and a huge sponsor of a site like CNET, you can bet management will never allow a totally burning review of your products.
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Re: Tuners said by digiblur:said by Hall:Come on digiblur, in the real world, most people's lives don't center on TV 90% of the day, nor do most people have 4, 5, 6, or more TVs. We have (2) TVs connected to one Hopper and one Joey and admittedly, it's only been 2-3 weeks, but have not yet encountered a conflict.
Outside of Satguys, I've never read/heard complaints about the lack of sufficient tuners.
Typical 4 TV family here. If we had one Hopper it wouldn't last one evening before I would throw it out the window. The two bedrooms would fire up some live TV and that only leaves one tuner left. If the primetime thing was on then there would be zero tuners left in the house for live and/or recording. No thanks. People don't understand the 3 tuner thing as they are unaware that the other rooms steal their tuner from the hopper. In homes with more than three televisions, Dish installs two hopper units...
Four tvs = two hoppers and two joeys. |
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HallPremium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
kudos:2 | Technically, I believe one Hopper can support four Joeys. If Dish automatically gives people two of each, they're admitting a design shortcoming. |
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GooberPremium
join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
kudos:5 | But doesn't it really depend on the particular household's usage? |
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HallPremium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
kudos:2 | How many questions does Dish have to ask when signing someone up ? If the customer makes a mistake in the info they give, they could regret it real quick. If they simply ask "how many TVs do you want connected?", they should cover the worst-case scenario of that many TVs needing unique viewing capabilities all the time. |
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 Simba7I Void Warranties
join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT | reply to BF69
Re: CNET and lost respect said by BF69:I lost respect for CNET a while ago when it became clear they were nothing more than a cheerleader for Apple. Ha. You noticed that, too? |
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Re: Tuners said by Hall:Technically, I believe one Hopper can support four Joeys. If Dish automatically gives people two of each, they're admitting a design shortcoming.
It can, but as we know, there will be problems |
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