 jbobReach Out and Touch SomeonePremium
join:2004-04-26
Little Rock, AR | No Explanations yet They still have no explanation for the outage? Single point failure? |
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join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | Some info on outage Consumerist fielding many reports of the U-Verse outage:
»consumerist.com/2013/01/22/u-ver···-states/
AT&T support forum thread on outage:
»forums.att.com/t5/Features-and-H···/3407509 |
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| So tell me again why landlines are better? OK, I know that U-verse voice is more of a VoIP service than a landline, but that's the direction that the telcos want to move in. So, when that happens, won't that negate any advantages of a landline in terms of reliability?
What I'm curious about is what could cause such a widespread outage. If it's a failure in a single piece of equipment, then it seems that AT&T's infrastructure isn't very robust. Not very comforting for something as important as telecommunications. |
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 morboComplete Your Transaction
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00000 | NSA cable switchover is causing some problems. Hold tight-- your phone, internet, and wireless communications will be 100% monitored by the NSA again very soon. |
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amungusPremium
join:2004-11-26
America Reviews:
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| possible? Hmm, is it possible that this could be due to massive NAT failure?
I recall reading about some ISP's wanting to NAT out tons of IPv4 addresses since they are so 'rare' anymore... could it be that they were attempting to implement something like this, and it all fell apart?
Sorry to hear about all the fail. Taking it to a recent FB post is probably one of the only ways to reach out and touch them, being such a massive and impossible to penetrate tangled web. |
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 IllIlIlllIllEliteDataPremium
join:2003-07-06
Hampton Bays, NY
kudos:7 | reply to ISurfTooMuch
Re: So tell me again why landlines are better? said by ISurfTooMuch:OK, I know that U-verse voice is more of a VoIP service than a landline, but that's the direction that the telcos want to move in. So, when that happens, won't that negate any advantages of a landline in terms of reliability?
What I'm curious about is what could cause such a widespread outage. If it's a failure in a single piece of equipment, then it seems that AT&T's infrastructure isn't very robust. Not very comforting for something as important as telecommunications.
from reading the forum posts, it sounds like hardware/power failure at a major facility.
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Reliability is something that comes in time, newer technologies have growing pains. Remember when Verizon had LTE outages which are now a thing of the past.
And U-verse hasn't had a lot of widespread outages, this is the first I've heard of.
More reliability comes with time. POTS can have downtime too, but they are normally more localized. |
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 FBGuyPremium
join:2005-03-19
Evanston, IL | reply to amungus
Re: possible? I'm going to venture a guess that AT&T has no shortage of IPv4 addresses. |
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 jjoshuaPremium
join:2001-06-01
Scotch Plains, NJ
kudos:3 | Don't complain via twitter Everyone should pay their bill a few days late when this happens. |
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join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | reply to ISurfTooMuch
Re: So tell me again why landlines are better? said by ISurfTooMuch:What I'm curious about is what could cause such a widespread outage.
From what I read in the AT&T forum on the outage, it appears to be a problem with the DHCP servers that hand out IP addresses. They may have been doing a software upgrade on those servers and the software update bombed out.
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tkdslr
join:2004-04-24
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| My bet.. DHCP servers crashed.. And forgot all the existing IP address lease assignments..
When it comes back up.. it starts handing out already leased(still in use) IP addresses.. to newly rebooted boxes.. I.E. A real mess.
People who left their boxes plugged in/on.. stayed on.. sort of, until a the freshly restarted u-verse box get's a dup'd DHCP IP assignment. Then the games begin.
This type of mayhem could continue on for several days. (depending on DHCP lease interval). |
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| The REAL reason for the crash Is that Uverse is run by At&t. |
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 dnoyeBFerrous Phallus
join:2000-10-09
Southfield, MI | reply to tkdslr
Re: My bet.. DHCP servers crashed.. You don't really believe DHCP is that unintelligent do you? |
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| Info We were told there are 32 VHOs are affected by the outage and the DHCP server in TX. No ETR or what cause the outage.  |
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| TOS covered when att has outages Sorry but terms of service will cover their butts when outage ect happen don't matter that is phone or tv same apply. Try reading it |
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tkdslr
join:2004-04-24
Pompano Beach, FL | reply to dnoyeB
Re: My bet.. DHCP servers crashed.. yes, it is... especially when a network is too large to support wholesale network wide broadcasts.. (I.E. It's some sort of customized hybrid network).. |
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| Glad I missed it. I feel bad for all those having issues but my service Oak Lawn IL, is fine. |
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 NetFixerFrom my cold dead handsPremium
join:2004-06-24
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Re: possible?said by FBGuy:I'm going to venture a guess that AT&T has no shortage of IPv4 addresses.
Perhaps not, but they are nonetheless conserving their use by using NAT:
C:\>tracert -4 att.yahoo.com
Tracing route to ds-any-ycpi-uno.aycpi.b.yahoodns.net [206.190.57.60]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 * * * Request timed out.
2 381 ms 401 ms 401 ms 172.26.248.2
3 359 ms 365 ms 368 ms 172.16.7.82
4 348 ms 406 ms 401 ms 10.251.11.32
5 365 ms 399 ms 474 ms 10.251.10.2
6 323 ms 349 ms 340 ms 10.252.1.1
7 315 ms 365 ms 337 ms 209-183-048-002.mobile.mymmode.com [209.183.48.2]
8 327 ms 370 ms 365 ms 172.16.75.1
9 339 ms 400 ms 388 ms 12.94.97.13
10 368 ms 399 ms 410 ms cr1.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.100.26]
11 340 ms 411 ms 364 ms dlstx02jt.ip.att.net [12.122.214.245]
12 340 ms 342 ms 389 ms 192.205.37.50
13 355 ms 365 ms 383 ms ash-bb3-link.telia.net [213.155.130.70]
14 350 ms 491 ms 414 ms ash-bb1-link.telia.net [80.91.248.161]
15 386 ms 443 ms 352 ms yahoo-ic-141068-ash-bb1.c.telia.net [80.239.193.54]
16 333 ms 398 ms 388 ms UNKNOWN-206-190-56-X.yahoo.com [206.190.56.13]
17 351 ms 411 ms 388 ms r1.ycpi.vip.dcb.yahoo.net [206.190.57.60]
Trace complete.
The above traceroute example is on an AT&T Mobility 3G connection, but they are doing the same thing to U-verse in many areas (and the plan is to make NAT universal for all customers who do not pay for static IPv4 public addresses).
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Orange, CA
kudos:1 | Southern California still up Glad I still have internet  |
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dnoyeBFerrous Phallus
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Southfield, MI Reviews:
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Re: My bet.. DHCP servers crashed.. If you can hand out network wide IP addresses you have enough communication to ensure they do not get used twice. Otherwise this problem would have always existed.
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