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Comments on news posted 2013-01-23 11:26:38: Google continues to be incredibly vague about if or when they'll expand Google Fiber outside of Kansas City, though the company insists the effort is no passing fad. ..

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axiomatic

join:2006-08-23
Tomball, TX

Houston Texas

Dear Google,
Houston Texas is really flat and really big. Easy to deploy fiber here. Your presence here would be most welcome. Our economy is strong enough that I think you would have a large amount of subscribers.
KKTHX Love ya.

-Ax


workablob

join:2004-06-09
Houston, TX
kudos:4
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said by axiomatic:

Dear Google,
Houston Texas is really flat and really big. Easy to deploy fiber here. Your presence here would be most welcome. Our economy is strong enough that I think you would have a large amount of subscribers.
KKTHX Love ya.

-Ax

+1
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skeechan
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LOL...of course it's a hobby

It's yet another Google beta project with a very nice escape clause. They'll pull the ripcord on it like they do lots of their stuff.


Guspaz
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Montreal, QC
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Strategy makes sense

If they really do intend to eventually go for large-scale deployments, becoming a major telco, their current strategy (of limited deployments) makes sense. This is their test run, where they can figure everything out, work out all the kinks, and mature the service. Once they've figured things out, they can scale up and deploy more widely.

Users in Kansas are, in effect, beta testers.
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AnonFTW

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said by Guspaz:

If they really do intend to eventually go for large-scale deployments, becoming a major telco, their current strategy (of limited deployments) makes sense. This is their test run, where they can figure everything out, work out all the kinks, and mature the service. Once they've figured things out, they can scale up and deploy more widely.

Users in Kansas are, in effect, beta testers.

And with the new Federal mandates that fiber conduit must be laid with any new (federally funded) roadway construction, it becomes even cheaper to deploy.


IowaCowboy
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A better idea

A better idea would be cable TV overbuilders that are less focused on the TV business and more focused on broadband and VoIP offerings. An ideal company would build an HFC network using DOCSIS 3.0 with each node serving 500 customers maximum and offers a TV package that has only the most popular channels (such as Fox News, Weather Channel, the Disney Channel, Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network, local broadcast stations, discovery channel, etc) and about 100 channels maximum on their TV offering but would focus its core business on broadband and VoIP. The ideal company would have caps that allow for normal residential use and business grade plans with no caps. The ideal company would also treat all packets equal on a first come first serve basis and offer speeds that are generous but throttled to ensure that all users get full enjoyment of their connection (in other words, prevent a few bandwidth hogs on the node from ruining the experience of the majority of users on the node). The ideal company would also offer VoIP services that are competitive with other VoIP users but offer carrier grade reliability (like Comcast Digital Voice) and works with alarm dialers and fax machines. As for TV, the ideal provider would have a choice of set-top boxes that would either be full featured or no-frills (for the older generation).

silbaco
Premium
join:2009-08-03
USA

It's a hobby

Maybe they think by saying it is not a hobby, their competition will get worried and start upgrading.

xenophon

join:2007-09-17
reply to workablob

Re: Houston Texas

The word in KC is that Google is looking at Houston, though many other cities too.

xenophon

join:2007-09-17
reply to skeechan

Re: LOL...of course it's a hobby

And some things carry through. So how do you know for certain of failure, because you want it to?

Chaldo

join:2008-03-18
West Bloomfield, MI

Detroit/ West Bloomfield, MI!!!

All we have is Comcast, and AT&T U-verse which half the people cannot get. I think AT&T is overpriced, and FUCK comcast!!! come on google step up the game mother fuckers!!!!


Kommie
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join:2003-05-13
united state
kudos:3

Wallingford, CT

Try Wallingford, CT the town owns the electric plant and the telephone poles.


LightS
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join:2005-12-17
Greenville, TX
reply to axiomatic

Re: Houston Texas

Same for Dallas... somewhere in Texas would be nice though! job opportunities in both.. hehe

silbaco
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join:2009-08-03
USA
reply to IowaCowboy

Re: A better idea

The problem is cable overbuilders tend to fall behind because they don't have deep enough pockets. Even Imon, while having great service, is falling behind in speeds compared to Mediacom. Hopefully they will be able to catch up this year, but it is a constant battle.


ArrayList
netbus developer
Premium
join:2005-03-19
Brighton, MA
reply to skeechan

Re: LOL...of course it's a hobby

I love the fact that most of Google's products are changing. There is no reason for them to be static, unchanging boring products. That's a good thing.


ArrayList
netbus developer
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Brighton, MA
reply to IowaCowboy

Re: A better idea

I really don't know what TV has to do with Google Fiber.


morbo
Complete Your Transaction

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reply to LightS

Re: Houston Texas

Dallas would be a stab at AT&T as their headquarters are located there.


ITALIAN926

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reply to ArrayList

Re: A better idea

Youre right, it has NOTHING to do with it at all. Google only provides TV service over their fiber. sigh.

I know all you cord cutters are in denial, but fiber would NOT sell without TV service. Youre all a very small percentage of subscribers going internet only.

Verizon FioS performs poorly in areas where they dont have signed TV franchises.


ArrayList
netbus developer
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join:2005-03-19
Brighton, MA
I would pay whatever the real price was without TV. Many of us would.

silbaco
Premium
join:2009-08-03
USA
reply to ITALIAN926
FiOS performs poorly in many areas, even with TV. Despite the common opinion around here, many people are simply happy with what they have. Verizon DSL performs for what they need. Why change?


ilikeme
I live in a van down by the river.
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Sugar Land, TX
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reply to workablob

Re: Houston Texas

+2 and DFW also


LightS
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Greenville, TX
reply to morbo
It'd be awesome, IMO. Plenty of DC's around for peering.. lol


skeechan
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reply to xenophon

Re: LOL...of course it's a hobby

No, because of how they are going about this. Even the location they selected shows they aren't serious about expanding this and becoming an MSO. I wouldn't be surprised if this is simply research into residential usage of data services; something the rest of their organization would hugely benefit from. Since they have their testbed infrastructure, they can monitor everything the users do and for major marketing based organizations like Google, that is gold. But you don't have to spend $100B on nationwide infrastructure to get that information so they won't bother. Google will not be the next Verizon unless they run into serious problems with MSO data double dipping. But as we see with Google and Orange, Google has shown a willingness to pay off the MSOs looking to double dip.

Nothing will come of this and it is evident by how they are going about this.


FFH5
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Tavistock NJ
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reply to skeechan
quote:
that Google Fiber "wasn't an experiment." As we noted then, it's not quite clear what you're supposed to call an extremely limited broadband deployment by a search company intended primarily as a testbed. "Hobby" and "experiment" really aren't too far off the mark.

How about "Public Relations", or marketing, or lobbying? Just a way to lobby Washington to give money away to put FTTH in more areas.
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banditws6
Shrinking Time and Distance
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Frisco, TX
reply to LightS

Re: Houston Texas

Dallas? Yes please.


skeechan
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reply to FFH5

Re: LOL...of course it's a hobby

Washington has run out of everyone else's money.

elray

join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA
reply to silbaco

Re: It's a hobby

Hobbies are not tax-deductible.

Business losses are.

xenophon

join:2007-09-17
reply to LightS

Re: Houston Texas

Given Texas has an ultra business friendly environment, it would not surprise me if they go there next.

KC local ecodev groups hope Google delays expansion as long as possible so KC can capitalize on being only Gfiber metro. KC doesn't have nearly the job market as Houston/Dallas but does have over 10K open IT/tech jobs in over 500 companies. .

»www.city-data.com/forum/kansas-c···ity.html

xenophon

join:2007-09-17
reply to silbaco

Re: A better idea

VZ FIOS uses GPON, it appears Google is using Active Ethernet, so doesn't have the GPON issues...

»www.gfiberforum.com/forum/thread···-or-GPON

axus

join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC
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Did Page say how much money they were making/spending?

We're all very interested in how profitable/unprofitable this thing will be for them. If they're actually making money over a 5 year period, we can point out what a bad job the incumbents are doing. If not, we shouldn't feel so bad about the current state of ISPs in the USA.

saneblane

join:2013-01-23
Houston, TX
reply to axiomatic

Re: Houston Texas

+1
I second that motion