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Comments on news posted 2013-01-25 12:08:34: You'll recall that executives at CBS recently shot themselves in their very expensive loafers when they decided to prevent CBS-owned CNET from giving a CES best-of-show award to Dish's ad-skipping Hopper DVR. ..

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cdru
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reply to Mike

Re: Goodbye CNET

said by Mike:

CNET has killed CNET long before CBS.

I was going to say just that. I personally thin CNET started it's downhill journey when it acquired ZDNet. Since about then I've never regarded anything that I've read from them as anything but a shill...a paid advertisement for whatever was being reviewed. And if something was a negative review, it was a paid shill for said product's competitors.

elray

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reply to Telco

Re: Anti-trust

said by Telco:

Why is there no anti-trust case against cable and traditional media.

Because there isn't even an inkling of a hint of a case.

Generally, content is cheaper than ever.

Just because we can't buy/rent the content in the manner, format, time, density and bundling we prefer, doesn't make for a conspiracy among the content owners - quite the opposite - they lose the potential sale.

Much as I'd like to see content sold dynamically, ala-carte, and I'm confident that such a system would result in huge revenue increases - people buy more when they can choose what they want, business prefers predictable revenues, just as consumers want consistent flat-rate billing, even when measured plans would save them lots of money.

So absent the second coming of Steve Jobs holding a World-Wide content sales summit, where all the players can see the light (more $$$$ for everyone, not just the newcomers), the established players are going to protect their investment, and they have every right to do so.


Bootes
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reply to elray

Re: Bring on the Streisand Effect

I see them making an agreement where Aereo starts paying fees per viewer similar to the cable companies. Then Aereo turns into the first internet cable company and starts picking up other cable channels as well, which I'm pretty sure is exactly what they would like to be.


PP

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reply to ISurfTooMuch

Re: I wonder how Lindsey Turrentine feels now

I agree with you in theory. However, times are tough, and to walk away from a gig that pays well and allows her to be around, play with/evaluate, and report on technology (something I suspect she enjoys) is hard.

As the old saying goes those with the gold make the rules. In this case, big corps have us all by the short curlies. Sad that most of us have to sell a part of our soul to live comfortably.

ISurfTooMuch

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reply to elray

Re: Bring on the Streisand Effect

What Aereo needs to do is to start cutting deals with any programmers they can, be it niche cable/sat channels that can't get good carriage agreements from the big cable companies, foreign channels that want to enter the market, independent producers, and even smaller OTA TV stations that want carriage into a market. Tell these guys that, if they'll agree to waive carriage fees and allow Aereo to insert ads in any local ad slots the channels provide, Aereo will agree to make their service available for free to consumers for a specified amount of time, say maybe five years. Then either distribute via Roku or, if that doesn't work out, build their own similar streaming box.

Yes, caps will be an issue for heavy viewers, but that's something that the cable companies and telcos are going to have to defend someday, either in court or in the court of public opinion, and I suspect it's an issue they'd rather not have to air out in public. But, at any rate, if Aereo goes this route, and if it can build an even decent selection of programming, it will serve to really pull away the budget-conscious TV households.

At that point, the big programmers may have wished they'd left them along or gotten on the bandwagon.

ISurfTooMuch

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reply to PP

Re: I wonder how Lindsey Turrentine feels now

I agree with you. In the short term, she made the right decision from a purely financial standpoint, but this assumes that CNET won't end up taking a hit for this. If it does, she may, at some point, find herself looking for employment, and people are going to remember where she was when this happened. Still, if she'd at least been honest and said that she stayed because she needed the money, I could respect that, but neither I nor anyone else bought that line about her not allowing this to happen again. It makes her look like either a terribly naive individual or a liar. Either way, her credibility is severely diminished.

She and the other CNET staff had a golden opportunity. If they'd walked and started up their own news site, they'd have grabbed many of CNET's visitors. And, if you think about it, a site's writers are its backbone. Servers and bandwidth are relatively cheap and widely available, but good, seasoned writers are harder to come by.


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reply to IowaCowboy

Re: Cnet spin-off

Yes CBS should spin off Cent it would be a lot better that way.


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reply to jjoshua

Re: Disclosure is all they need

said by jjoshua:

CBS is worried that CNET can't objectively review something because litigation is taking place?

CNET just needs to disclose this to the reader and they can make up their own mind.

I disagree. The lawyers for those that CBS is suing would use the fact that a CBS subsidiary has supported them as a point in a civil lawsuit proceeding. And I evidently have much less confidence that a jury or even a judge would be impartial and not take those facts in to account.
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reply to Bootes

Re: Bring on the Streisand Effect

said by Bootes:

I see them making an agreement where Aereo starts paying fees per viewer similar to the cable companies. Then Aereo turns into the first internet cable company and starts picking up other cable channels as well, which I'm pretty sure is exactly what they would like to be.

Again, i doubt they will succeed, as industry isn't likely to be caught snoozing, and Aereo doesn't have the 11-figure deep pockets necessary to bribe its way through network resistance.

But USDTV and Sezmi actually did manage to get a dozen cable channels to sell to them before they imploded, so it isn't impossible.


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reply to FFH5

Re: Disclosure is all they need

said by FFH5:

I disagree. The lawyers for those that CBS is suing would use the fact that a CBS subsidiary has supported them as a point in a civil lawsuit proceeding.
...

If that argument had been made prior to HopperGate, other things being equal it would have been easily refuted to judge, jury and public. As it stands now CBS has poisoned that well. Since everyone now knows that CBS management is actively involved in editorial actions, dictating terms to CNET and so forth, there is no counter to the argument. Congratulations CBS, done and done!
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Simba7
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1 edit

Looks like they took the "or not" site down.

»jimromenesko.com/2013/01/25/at-c···sed-off/

All I'm getting is a 404.

EDIT: It's working, just have to go to the main site @ »jimromenesko.com/.


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Fixed the quote for them

said by Cnet :
Disclosure: CBS, the parent corporation of CNET, is currently in active litigation with Aereo as to the legality of its service. As a result of that conflict of interest, CNET cannot review that service going forward.
said by What CNet means :
Disclosure: CBS, the parent corporation of CNET, is currently in active litigation with Aereo as to the legality of its service. As a result of a conflict of interest, CNET cannot won't review that service going forward.

brianiscool

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CNET

I thought these guys went out of business years ago. I remember how bad their T.V. show was back in the days reviewing technology. Most people these days go to Amazon and Newegg for technology. Where people already write comments on the technology.


fightback

@comcast.net

Note to CBS/CNET

No problem here. I've already blocked the URL of ALL CBS owned or associated sites (including tv) and CNET. Just one more crappy channel I don't have to deal with on tv anyway.


Gotech

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TechTV

TechTV. Nothing else needs to be said.

gamersglory

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reply to morbo

Re: Goodbye CNET

The only thing that would work is for CBS to spin-off CBS interactive
into it's own company