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Robotics See You On The Dark Side Premium join:2003-10-23 Louisa, VA Reviews: ·Verizon Wireless.. ·Comcast	FU*K Comcast (and all the others) This shit is getting old. I have one of those boxes and was told it would be free forever at the time they gave me the box. And now they are going to charge for it. lol Yup, I'm returning mine. I hope a lot of others do to. Would love to know they have tons of these cheap ass boxes laying around their warehouse collecting Comcrap dust. -- Long you live and high you fly, and smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry, and all you touch and all you see, is all your life will ever be.
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AVD Respice, Adspice, Prospice Premium join:2003-02-06 Onion, NJ kudos:1	reply to swintec Re: Nasty said by swintec: I look at TV without a box / dta (analog channels) as maybe a little benefit they extended to customers but it is time to move on and free up the bandwidth for more services. I get 0 channels if I plug my analog TV in. I never bothered to try to plug in a digital TV. -- * seek help if having trouble coping --Standard disclaimers apply.--
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Mr Matt join:2008-01-29 Eustis, FL kudos:1 Reviews: ·CenturyLink ·Comcast ·Embarq Now Centu..	reply to Corehhi The cable service I subscribe to started to gouge customers before I subscribed to service. They originally included one digital STB in the price of digital service. If the subscriber added a DVR they paid for the DVR and still were entitled to a no charge STB. My cable service provider started gouging by eliminating the no charge STB and charging full price for the DVR, no credit for the STB if a subscriber added a DVR. If you subscribed to two DVR's you were charged for two DVR's you did not get a no charge STB or a credit for the one that was not supplied. Just another way to gouge customers. You mention that the first receiver a DBS provider is included in the cost of basic service. Additional receivers incur additional charges. At least the DBS service providers provide one receiver in the cost of programming.
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Mr Matt join:2008-01-29 Eustis, FL kudos:1 Reviews: ·CenturyLink ·Comcast ·Embarq Now Centu..	reply to alexintexas REGULATION is the answer. Up until last year I could receive up to around 70 channels without additional equipment on a cable ready television set. That was fine for guests that wanted to catch up on the news or cartoons for the kids. We are back to the pre Cable Television Consumer Protection and Competition Act of 1992. There was an article about why the act was made law. Some congressmen and senators were pissed off because they could purchase a cable ready television and not use the remote control because they had to rent a descrambling converter to watch programming on each television. That was the main reason that the Cable Television Consumer Protection and Competition Act of 1992 was passed. The lawmakers got tired of being screwed by the cable industry. The cable companies were only allowed to scramble premium and pay per view programming. One solution would be to regulate the price of equipment to descramble an encrypted signal. The cable company could charge a one time right to use fee and no monthly fee. Ownership and maintenance cost would be the responsibility of the cable company. An incentive to keep the equipment in good condition would be to return part of the right to use fee if the customer cancelled service. The DTA's should be provided at a low cost say $25.00 with no monthly charge. Ownership would be retained by the cable company. The DTA would have to be returned when service was discontinued. Cable companies should be prohibited from charging for each outlet. I would be satisfied if I could purchase a STB at best buy or any other store, that accommodated one cable card and did not require that I paid a monthly fee for that outlet. Do not expect to have any relief on this gouging since the cable industry is paying off our corrupt lawmakers to screw their constituents.
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Mr Matt join:2008-01-29 Eustis, FL kudos:1 Reviews: ·CenturyLink ·Comcast ·Embarq Now Centu..	reply to r81984 Review section 17 of the Cable Television Consumer Protection and Competition Act of 1992 here: »en.wikisource.org/wiki/Cable_Tel···_of_1992 Don't expect relief on cost as the cable industry has lobbied up.
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Joe12345678 join:2003-07-22 Des Plaines, IL	reply to Mr Matt in canada you can buy the box with out the outlet or mirroring fees. Some systems even have rent to own as well.
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PeteC2 Got Mouse? Premium,MVM join:2002-01-20 Bristol, CT kudos:6 Reviews: ·Comcast ·AT&T Yahoo	reply to cork1958 Re: Big deal I guess then that I am the only other Comcast customer to be aware of this? In my apartment complex, when the switch was being made, Comcast came out and gave us the DTAs. We were clearly told that this was free for the next two years, but that there would be a nominal monthly charge down the road. I have no issue about anyone who decides that this charge makes Comcast service to expensive to keep...everybody has the right to vote with their wallets...but IMHO, it is a bit silly to ascribe some terrible/evil intent on Comcast's part. I don't really care where the extra $4.00 amonth comes from (Would it be any better if it was a television service for space aliens fee?). I am only concerned about whether my total bill is acceptable to my enjoyment/usage versus cost or not, and how it compares to alternative sources price wise. -- Deeds, not words
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PeteC2 Got Mouse? Premium,MVM join:2002-01-20 Bristol, CT kudos:6 Reviews: ·Comcast ·AT&T Yahoo	reply to YukonHawk said by YukonHawk: Do you have proof of that? Well, I will take his word for it. All 285 units at my apartment complex were informed about the eventual cost back when Comcast rolled out the DTAs. -- Deeds, not words
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PeteC2 Got Mouse? Premium,MVM join:2002-01-20 Bristol, CT kudos:6 Reviews: ·Comcast ·AT&T Yahoo	reply to Robotics Re: FU*K Comcast (and all the others) It would not necessarily surprise me at all if someone inadvertantly told you that. Comcast is a huge company, and not all personnel always seem to get the same message. Not defending that, but just saying that I am not surprised either. Seriously though, I live in an apartment complex of some 285 units, and I can tell you that Comcast clearly stated to us that the DTAs were free "now", but would have a monthly charge a couple of years down the road. -- Deeds, not words
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Morac Cat god join:2001-08-30 Riverside, NJ kudos:1 Reviews: ·Comcast	reply to r81984 Re: Nasty Comcast has been charging $7.50 "outlet fees" for people who use their own equipment (i.e. cableCards) simply because they can. Comcast originally rented cable boxes for $10 a month, but then lost this revenue when people switched to using their own equipment. So Comcast decided to rent cable boxes for $2.50 with a $7.50 outlet fee. People who rent from Comcast see no change in price, but people using their own equipment are suddenly socked with a $7.50 per device surcharge. Basically Comcast is finding ways of implementing fees when there's no real reason to do so. For example the $10 "HD Technology Fee" which Comcast charges if you want HD channels. That fee applies whether or not you actually rent an HD box from Comcast (even if you have an SD TV) so it's simply a money grab. -- The Comcast Disney Avatar has been retired.
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Skippy25 join:2000-09-13 Hazelwood, MO	reply to Corehhi The charging per receiver when you owned them was a scam to begin with. It took $0 more dollars for them to deliver you signal to 1 TV or 10. Just like the HD fee used and the fact that Dish charges $10 (at the time I was with them) just so you can have the component connection on the STB enabled. Bottom line is that these people make up fees that have no relation to cost and they know we have to pay it because we dont have a much of a choice.
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biochemistry join:2003-05-09 92361	Tru2Way Whatever happened to tru2way? It was supposed to allow for pay-per-view and SDV unlike cablecard. Congress needs to ban the monthly fees for these digtal boxes until such time as an alternative like tru2way becomes available.
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swintec Premium,VIP join:2003-12-19 Alfred, ME kudos:4 Reviews: ·RapidVPS ·Sprint Mobile Br.. ·VoicePulse ·RoadRunner Cable	reply to Mr Matt Re: Nasty said by Mr Matt: Up until last year I could receive up to around 70 channels without additional equipment on a cable ready television set. Yeas and? This is the result of technology and progress. They want the reclaimed bandwidth for advanced services with a bit of security sprinkled in. Satellite and TelcoTV got a free pass, cable should be under the same deal here. -- Usenet Block Accounts \| Unlimited Accounts
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Robotics See You On The Dark Side Premium join:2003-10-23 Louisa, VA Reviews: ·Verizon Wireless.. ·Comcast	reply to PeteC2 Re: FU*K Comcast (and all the others) Yeah it was one of their reps. over the phone. And I am sure they didn't know the full story (nothing new there), or neglected to mention that fact. Oh well, I will be returning it anyway. One less TV in the house for now. -- Long you live and high you fly, and smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry, and all you touch and all you see, is all your life will ever be.
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Corehhi join:2002-01-28 Bluffton, SC Reviews: ·Hargray Cable	reply to AVD Re: Nasty said by AVD: said by swintec: I look at TV without a box / dta (analog channels) as maybe a little benefit they extended to customers but it is time to move on and free up the bandwidth for more services. I get 0 channels if I plug my analog TV in. I never bothered to try to plug in a digital TV. If I plug in a DTV I get all the locals in HD plus another mix of analog and music channels. Just hit auto program and see what comes up.
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Corehhi join:2002-01-28 Bluffton, SC Reviews: ·Hargray Cable	reply to Skippy25 said by Skippy25: The charging per receiver when you owned them was a scam to begin with. It took $0 more dollars for them to deliver you signal to 1 TV or 10. Just like the HD fee used and the fact that Dish charges $10 (at the time I was with them) just so you can have the component connection on the STB enabled. Bottom line is that these people make up fees that have no relation to cost and they know we have to pay it because we dont have a much of a choice. I know they are always looking to bump up your bill. My local cable company actually gives you a STB that blocks out the HD channels which ironicly I receive since I simply just plug my TV into the cable, the HDTV channels are there at least the locals but they want an up charge for a HD box which you don't need at all. LOL. That make sense???
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YukonHawk join:2001-01-07 Patterson, NY	reply to PeteC2 Re: Big deal I guess, but I tend to be suspicious of "anon" posts.
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Mr Matt join:2008-01-29 Eustis, FL kudos:1 Reviews: ·CenturyLink ·Comcast ·Embarq Now Centu..	reply to Morac Re: Nasty Before the Cable Television Consumer Protection and Competition Act of 1992 was implemented our cable company charged an outlet fee, a converter descrambler fee and a remote control fee. Only local channels were not scrambled for lifeline service. When will the gateway that has been discussed become available and will the FCC prohibit the cable service provider from charging for each outlet (television)? The FCC should use the telephone company model forcing the cable and DBS industry to allow the customer to own their own equipment.
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alexintexas join:2003-01-11 San Antonio, TX Reviews: ·RoadRunner Cable ·Clearwire Wireless	reply to Mr Matt said by Mr Matt: REGULATION is the answer. REGULATION really??? you 100% sure about that...Pots is a fine example why government intervention is not needed, ah but wait you do come up with an idea. said by Mr Matt: One solution would be to regulate the price of equipment to descramble an encrypted signal. The cable company could charge a one time right to use fee and no monthly fee. Ownership and maintenance cost would be the responsibility of the cable company. An incentive to keep the equipment in good condition would be to return part of the right to use fee if the customer cancelled service. The DTA's should be provided at a low cost say $25.00 with no monthly charge. Ownership would be retained by the cable company you still fail on answering, who pays the upfront costs of said equipment? Someone pays it, its not the cable company, its not our government..then you go on to say the cable co keeps paying to maintain it ------never going to happen said by Mr Matt: I would be satisfied if I could purchase a STB at best buy or any other store, that accommodated one cable card. sure this is a fantastic idea however @ $600 per STB or upto $1200 per dvr? how many subscribers do you think will dole this out? you wouldnt. lets not forget you still would pay to lease said cable card per device. one simple solution, CUT THE DAMN CORD!!! take that $1200+ per year you would save. todays day an age there are way to many other streaming options to many to list. another solution have the government REMOVE cable companies and content providers from ever being publicly traded companies, this however is a pipe dream
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cscottm join:2002-05-09 Kent, WA	Thank you Well Thank you Comcast, I'm sure my parents will appreciate knowing they will recoop the cost of converting to WMC faster then expected.
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