| Verizon's Roles Roles vs Rolls
Prepaid plans are good for secondary devices like tablets when one travels. Tethering with cell phone seems to be a pain, unreliable and slow. |
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| no prepaid on lte? why not? why not let prepaid customers use the lte network? |
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| Because LTE is verizon's PREMIUM network, so they don't want the prepaid demographic on it, since that demographic is often "credit-challenged." This way, their 3G network remains "monetized" (I hate that word) during the transition to LTE, since that network is already paid for and entails less risk by offering it as prepaid.
By 2021 the 3G spectrum is supposed to be refarmed to LTE or whatever else is in place by then. |
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| That's precisely the assumption that allows these monopolistic carriers to get away with their rip-off pricing. That is, anyone who does not want to basically pay $90+ per month ($1.1K per year + handset every 2 years) is apparently "credit-challenged".
I could be worth $100 million yet I would still not pay $90+ for some shitty half-baked North American cell service. The pricing only serves to enrich the shareholders and c-level management, while they pay their workers peanuts and hire fools to provide useless CS. |
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said by ArrayList:why not? why not let prepaid customers use the lte network?
Verizon believes that prepaid subs are second-class citizens, and treats them as such. |
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| Too Expensive. Drop the prepaid down to $50 unlimited talk, text and 2GB limit a month. |
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decifal
join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN
kudos:1 Reviews:
·Verizon Broadban..
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Re: no prepaid on lte? said by podstolom:Because LTE is verizon's PREMIUM network, so they don't want the prepaid demographic on it, since that demographic is often "credit-challenged." This way, their 3G network remains "monetized" (I hate that word) during the transition to LTE, since that network is already paid for and entails less risk by offering it as prepaid.
By 2021 the 3G spectrum is supposed to be refarmed to LTE or whatever else is in place by then.
Too bad the prepaid prices are nearly that of their premium ones..
Seriously, cell companies have just gotten too damn greedy... I'm a step from just saying "screw it" an going back to a plain ol trek phone. If they decide to destroy that to force us to their more profitable plans, I think i'll just go amish on the phone world... |
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| should move to RUIM for all phones i would like to see verizon prepaid become a RUIM(CDMA sim card) product that can be used in any verizon phone with a SIM slot even if only 3G and LTE turned off. this would allow for easy phone swapping. of course i would also like to se the RUIM's offered by verizon MVNO's such as pageplus.
if verizon wants their net10, straighttalk flavors to compete against at&t and t-mobile versions this would be the necessary first step. because of network reliability and much larger and cheaper selection of high end used phones verizon MVNO could easily charge a premium price over those using at&t or t-mobile but a switch to RUIM is a must. |
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Re: no prepaid on lte? Among my circles of friends who are by no means credit challenged, most have figured out that I was the smart one years ago when I dumped Verizon and went with prepaid with another carrier. So I know lots of wealthy people who have done the math like I did years ago and figured they were getting soaked for a phone... Every time someone I know mentions how they are getting shafted I tell them what I did and what I spend and they are following in my footsteps.
I spend on average less than $10 per month with prepaid. When I travel I swap my SIM over to my Android and pay $2-3 per day to have unlimited voice, text and more data than my handset can eat in one day for the mobile apps I might want to use since I am away from home and a PC. |
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ke4pymPremium
join:2004-07-24
Charlotte, NC Reviews:
·VOIPo
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said by decifal:Seriously, cell companies have just gotten too damn greedy... I'm a step from just saying "screw it" an going back to a plain ol trek phone. If they decide to destroy that to force us to their more profitable plans, I think i'll just go amish on the phone world...
I'm giving this serious consideration as well. I just can't bring myself to pay $199 or $299 for a PHONE. Esp. after the crap I went through with my Thunderbolt and now this almost-as-crappy Razr. |
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said by bobjohnson:said by ArrayList:why not? why not let prepaid customers use the lte network?
Verizon believes that prepaid subs are second-class citizens, and treats them as such. Exactly! That's why the prepaids have such poor coverage. |
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BobAccount deleted
join:2012-07-22
New Jersey Reviews:
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| Prepaid only? said by Karl :
clearly converting the company's existing 3G, EVDO network into prepaid only
Do you really mean to say that people with 3G phones will be forced to prepaid accounts?
Or do you mean that prepaid customers will be restricted to 3G? |
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Re: no prepaid on lte? I love that mentality. It reaffirms my believe that when they're busy trying to rub you the wrong way, the shaken feathers are actually falling off their scalp and not mine. 
I've been a happy prepaid customer since November. People are stupid for still doing contracts. |
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| EVDO vs LTE A benefit of the LTE rollout in my area is that the existing 3G towers finally have fiber and got off of the copper. As they never had enough bandwidth (not enough T-1s to the sites), EVDO was much slower than it should have been. Now that the fiber is turned up (Gig-E?), the 3g stuff SCREAMS! As I and my kid are both heavy users (between 2-4 gig each per month), I am going to stay on my granfathered unlimited 3g family plan as long as possible. My Droid2 (R2-D2) and my kids Iphone 4s are AWESOME now, and still work great, so I am comfy where I am at, and will stay 3g until they boot me off. |
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 Simba7I Void Warranties
join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT | reply to decifal
Re: no prepaid on lte? said by decifal:I'm a step from just saying "screw it" an going back to a plain ol trek phone. Already there. We switched to Straight Talk last year and never looked back. Their ST SIM card is definitely worth it. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
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·RoadRunner Cable
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Re: Verizon's Roles Wouldn't say that. My SIII, tethered, has hit 30+ Mbps down and 10+ Mbps up. Granted, it's Sprint, but VZW phones now give tethering away for "free" (counts against your data allotment).
Five years ago, tethering was more difficult. Now? not so much. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL
·RoadRunner Cable
·Comcast
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Re: no prepaid on lte? What's funny is that, thanks to the iPad, you can still get LTE on prepaid. I wouldn't dream of signing a contract for $80+ per month with VZW, but I do like me some LTE.
My guess is that VZW will open up LTE to prepaid once they get AWS online. Right now they're having spectrum issues with LTE in some areas...apparently building a coverage-focused network when you should be building for capacity is a bad idea. |
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Simba7I Void Warranties
join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT | said by iansltx:apparently building a coverage-focused network when you should be building for capacity is a bad idea. Why? It works great for (some) ISP's. You might have the best coverage but if the speeds are the same as (at times) 2G, what's the point? |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | reply to nonamesleft
You can get VZW prepaid via Page Plus Cellular. You just don't get...you guessed it...LTE access. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | reply to brianiscool
Re: Too Expensive. Why? Then, they'd be cheaper than T-Mobile. |
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