 VanPremium
join:2009-07-08
New Orleans, LA | I am not the most up-to-date on upgrading UVerse tech but I am stuck in an area where we have at MOST 18Mbit/s down.
It has been this way for awhile now and even Cox and others around me (and by 'around' I mean in cities hours away so I can't get use them myself) have increased speeds 2-3 times total the last few years.
Now, I believe I have seen people state that distance does matter for UVerse speeds so.....should people like me expect to see increased speeds soon under UVerse technology? Or is UVerse technology going to be one of the last ones able to really keep pushing up their speeds? |
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| Bandwidth In 10 years you guys will findally get 50Mbps where everyone else is at 2Gbps /per second |
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Re: I am not the most up-to-date on upgrading UVerse Hey Van you already know that I am not a tech now, but I have many friends still in the field that are. They all say nothing is going to happen until their contract is negotiated sometime around april/may timeframe. In the St louis area alone there were approx 20-40, depending who you ask, new VRADS sitting idle waiting on this as well. This was in the summer of 2012. I know I have ben a harsh critic but numbersa don't lie only people do, especially the marketing and legal weasels which are directed by upper management. They have to do a significant amout of further upgrades to their backend, as well as clean up a good amout of crossboxes in service now,to compete with the current cable offerings in regards to internet speeds, I do not think they will, and so do many of the current employees. |
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U-Verse is using an antiquated copper network to get from at&t's fiber network to your home. Though there are fiber to the home U-Verse installs, in new housing developments, it's still restricted to the same speeds. That is probably due to cheaper costs. Twisted pair copper was meant for voice instead of data. It's like running water through a straw while cable internet is a hose.
Distance matters because twisted pair copper isn't as well shielded as coax so the signal leaks. Getting higher speeds would be tricky. |
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No, you will not see increased speeds soon. AT&T will most likely look at anyone with more than 3Mbps down as having good enough internet service to satisfy the FCC's watered down definition of adequate internet access. Since UVerse service starts at or above 3.0 Mbps, they will not do any upgrades soon. DSL customers may see speed increases if they are close enough to the CO or DSLAM. AT&T only has to UNLEASH their ADSL2+ system and they can deliver close to 24Mbps down and 3.5Mbps up to some customers who are very close to the DSLAM. Most of the existing customer ADSL2+ modems and gateways should handle the increased speed adequately. They could create a 12, 18, and 24 Mbps speed tier for pricing. |
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 jimkPremium
join:2006-04-15
Raleigh, NC
·RoadRunner Cable
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Speeds will be a big problem for U-verse at some point. They use pair bonding for some customers who are a bit too far from the VRAD, and there are rumors that they will eventually use the same technology to boost speeds for customers who are closer to the VRAD. This is far from a perfect solution... it will require a truck roll to upgrade customers (and replace hardware), and the fact of the matter is that today's cable standards (DOCSIS 3) can beat tomorrow's VDSL2 pair bonding.
To make matters worse, the handful of customers who are truly on fiber to the home are restricted to *slower speeds* than customers on old copper and are very close to the VRAD. |
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| lte If ya ain't figured out that LTE is the only future att will offer, then you may be the one I am looking for to sell this bridge I have. You can stay were you are, move to another provider or move to att LTE and like it. Start figuring out where you want to go... T will play a big song and dance about their 2nd wind at build out, but anyone that believes them is a fool. Once they get out from under "provider of last resort" rules, watch out. I would bet that areas will start to go dark when that happens. |
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WHT
join:2010-03-26
Rosston, TX
kudos:5 | Slow DSL Is Now uVerse Friend of mien in Oklahoma said he signed up for uVerse - in an area he knew AT&T didn't offer it.
Had him check his download speed - at 1.5 Mbps. Had him check the pairs used in his NID/DMARC box outside - only one pair used.
Appears that AT&T's differentiation of uVerse to be a high-speed, triple-play advertising concept...it's really now just another name for slow DSL. |
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| wireline future... here's one possible future.. AT&T will spin off the wireline residential & business markets and they will file for bankruptcy-- just thousands of times worse than the micro sliver baby bells spawned form Verizon: Frontier & Fairpoint.
this is if the federal government doesn't start reading these telcos the riot act about getting all that free cable-tv video franchises granted access to in the 1996 telecom reform act. |
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etaadmin
join:2002-01-17
Dallas, TX
kudos:1 | reply to youguys
Re: Bandwidth said by youguys :In 10 years you guys will findally get 50Mbps where everyone else is at 2Gbps /per second
LOL. Only if they are very close to the box 
For the rest its 3 Mbps. |
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said by youguys :In 10 years you guys will findally get 50Mbps where everyone else is at 2Gbps /per second
"What are you going to do with twenty megabits?"
»Illinois Muni-Foes Come Together |
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BiggA
join:2005-11-23
EARTH | reply to UverseTech
Re: I am not the most up-to-date on upgrading UVerse U-Verse can't compete. As soon as they get more people up to the 24mbps package, cable will do 50. Or 100. Cable can deliver several hundred mbps, and next year, there will probably be another version of DOCSIS. |
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 ilikemeI live in a van down by the river.Premium
join:2002-08-27
Denton, TX
kudos:1 | reply to WHT
Re: Slow DSL Is Now uVerse said by WHT:Friend of mien in Oklahoma said he signed up for uVerse - in an area he knew AT&T didn't offer it.
Had him check his download speed - at 1.5 Mbps. Had him check the pairs used in his NID/DMARC box outside - only one pair used.
Appears that AT&T's differentiation of uVerse to be a high-speed, triple-play advertising concept...it's really now just another name for slow DSL.
There are two different versions. VDSL and ADSL2+. Both can run over a single pair.
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Fiber Optics is the future of high-speed internet access. Stop by the BBR Fiber Optic Forum
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BiggA
join:2005-11-23
EARTH | reply to jimk
Re: I am not the most up-to-date on upgrading UVerse Exactly. It will beat cable for a month or two while they split some more nodes to light up even faster speeds. |
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BiggA
join:2005-11-23
EARTH | reply to Shadow01
Re: lte They won't get rid of DSL, but it's not like they're investing anything in it either, other than IP-DSLAMs, which are largely just to reduce cost, and push the slow speeds out a tiny bit farther. |
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elray
join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA | reply to BiggA
Re: I am not the most up-to-date on upgrading UVerse said by BiggA:U-Verse can't compete. As soon as they get more people up to the 24mbps package, cable will do 50. Or 100. Cable can deliver several hundred mbps, and next year, there will probably be another version of DOCSIS.
The bundle price and feature set is what matters. Despite the lower-quality product, AT&T has demonstrated that they can sell triple-play U-verse by padding the video lineup and pitching the "one bill" concept to their cellular customers.
They can certainly compete. |
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 RadioDocYeah, like it matters.Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
La Grange, IL
kudos:2
·AT&T Midwest
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said by TriForce:Twisted pair copper was meant for voice instead of data. It's like running water through a straw while cable internet is a hose. So I guess Gigabit Ethernet over twisted pairs is magic?
Copper isn't dead, but U-Verse expansion certainly is.
said by TriForce:Distance matters because twisted pair copper isn't as well shielded as coax so the signal leaks. Getting higher speeds would be tricky. Ya might want to open a book once in awhile. Balanced twisted pair wiring doesn't "leak". That's unbalanced coaxial cable's malady...in fact leakage limits are about all that's left of cable regulation. What does happen to UTP is attenuation, which is why there are transmission distance limits on BOTH coax and UTP. |
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RadioDocYeah, like it matters.Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
La Grange, IL
kudos:2 Reviews:
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Re: Slow DSL Is Now uVerse And...the ADSL+ version can't support POTS or video. It's just a way for them to get out from under some archaic regulations and labor contracts. But they still call it U-Verse and you have to deal with the same idiots to order it as the full-VDSL areas do. |
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RadioDocYeah, like it matters.Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
La Grange, IL
kudos:2 | reply to tmc8080
Re: wireline future... That'll never happen. They've already separated the wireless business unit from the wireline unit. At some point they just turn off the lights and walk away whilst sucking madly at the plump, tasty wireless tit. |
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 tschmidtPremium,MVM
join:2000-11-12
Milford, NH
kudos:8
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| said by RadioDoc: At some point they just turn off the lights and walk away
I certainly hope not but I fear you are correct.
I just signed up with a CLEC and am getting much better ADSL speed at a lower price. However they are dependant on UNE since they have to rent copper pair from the incumbent and collocate DSLAMs at each Central Office. If copper goes away I'm dead in the water.
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