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Large download speed increase, but upload is terrible.When will their speeds be at least 50, 75 and up for their upload? |
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chamberc Premium Member join:2008-08-05 Addison, TX |
chamberc
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2013-Feb-5 9:01 am
The entire to consumer architecture is built towards asymmetric speed, for download. You'll see 50-75 upload about the time 500 mbps to 1 gbps is common on the download. |
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resa1983 Premium Member join:2008-03-10 North York, ON |
resa1983
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2013-Feb-5 9:14 am
RogersNot all of the cable industry is..
Rogers here in Canada is still keeping with SpeedBoost. They like their customers seeing the right speeds (even for a few seconds) when their network is massively congested because they're too bloody cheap to do upgrades. |
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rradina join:2000-08-08 Chesterfield, MO |
Will we notice?I wonder if web browsing will feel flat after PB dies? My current Charter plan is 15/3 but my DOCSIS 2.0 modem typically maxes out for the first few seconds (30Mbps +). I cannot help but wonder if I lose PB, will media rich web pages not feel as crisp? Will streaming video not start as quickly? |
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ArrayListDevOps Premium Member join:2005-03-19 Mullica Hill, NJ |
add on featureif PB dies, I'd be surprised to not see it be an add on feature. |
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newviewEx .. Ex .. Exactly Premium Member join:2001-10-01 Parsonsburg, MD |
newview
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2013-Feb-5 9:22 am
This is just the first step... toward justifying another price increase. |
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AnonFTW to rradina
Anon
2013-Feb-5 10:31 am
to rradina
Re: Will we notice?said by rradina:I wonder if web browsing will feel flat after PB dies? My current Charter plan is 15/3 but my DOCSIS 2.0 modem typically maxes out for the first few seconds (30Mbps +). I cannot help but wonder if I lose PB, will media rich web pages not feel as crisp? Will streaming video not start as quickly? Unless your line is overloaded, no. |
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gaforces (banned)United We Stand, Divided We Fall join:2002-04-07 Santa Cruz, CA |
gaforces (banned)
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2013-Feb-5 9:44 am
It's stil offeredI checked in my area yesterday and the packages they offer include powerboost. They make it sound good with thier flowery marketing lingo. I still cant tell if its any good like people say or they are just moved by the advertising. |
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MoracCat god join:2001-08-30 Riverside, NJ |
to rradina
Re: Will we notice?It's unlikely you'll notice. The only things that really benefited from PB was downloads of large files and filling video stream buffers slightly faster. A 3 Mbps connection is more than enough to load web pages quickly.
A well designed web page should load before doing any of the above. These days sluggish web pages are caused by things like an over abundance of Flash or server issues. |
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Morac
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2013-Feb-5 9:52 am
PB is irrelevantI haven't had PB since last summer when Comcast updated me to 50/10 and really I haven't missed it. PB was useful back in the days of 6 or even 12 Mbps connections, but as speeds increased it lost it's usefulness.
These days, when I can download a 1 GB file in under 3 minutes, the extra few seconds PB would shave off the download is meaningless.
Not to mention that I rarely find servers capable of actually delivering 50 Mbps download speeds, so PB won't really help in that case anyway.
Upload PB is still kind of useful, but the vast majority of people don't do a lot of uploading or if they do, it can be done in the background where upload time isn't as relevant. |
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tiger72SexaT duorP Premium Member join:2001-03-28 Saint Louis, MO |
to chamberc
Re: Large download speed increase, but upload is terrible.frankly, they need to use speedboost for uploads now... |
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skeechanAi Otsukaholic Premium Member join:2012-01-26 AA169|170 |
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When they have to in order to compete, not before. |
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to newview
Re: This is just the first stepAs if they ever had to justifying price increases. |
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skeechan
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2013-Feb-5 10:04 am
It is pointless the way they are doing itCox used to do it right, uncapping for the first few hundred MB of a DL but a few months ago they "fixed" it so that a 50Mb tier was capped to 55Mb with PB. Who would notice?
I'd love to have an uncapped 8 channel connection for the first say, 500MB. Even with a 150Mb tier that would turn a 30s download into 15s one. And I may even willing to pay a premium for it. |
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"Speed" war?You mean "numbers" war. Not once have I ever needed more than 5mbps. Yeah, there are things I do that can take advantage of a little bit more speed, but still no more than 10mbps. (How fast do I really need to fill up a buffer?) Yeah, there are things that others do that can take advantage of even higher speeds (or there are simply more people at the customer location). But at this point it's just numbers on a chart. Oh, yes, please... let me pay more for that, thank you so much. Frankly, if I could get back my old 3000/768 Verizon DSL for $30/month... I'd seriously consider it. At 5/1 for $30 I'd be there in a heartbeat. |
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XANAVirus Premium Member join:2012-03-03 Lavalette, WV |
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Re: PB is irrelevantPowerboost may be irrelevant, but they still need to offer faster upload speeds.
Those who are content creators, like me (and others), who upload multiple 30-minute videos to YouTube, would appreciate the higher upload - therefore leading to less wait for all the videos to go up.
This would really help me, since even though I have a dedicated uploading computer, because I still have to wait 8 hours for the first of 5-6 videos to be up and I have to do this at night.
Most ISPs offer *only* 1Mbps upload speed, or 3Mbps or 5Mbps. At my location, no one offers higher than 1Mbps, unless you buy ultra-expensive fiber Internet (which is not offered for my house, only for my business location).
[Of course, I can't upload on my business location, because this is not on company time, because I create content for others' entertainment, fun, and myself.] |
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34764170 (banned) join:2007-09-06 Etobicoke, ON |
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Re: Large download speed increase, but upload is terrible.Up here the cable providers are doing just that, although still not competing very well. |
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Re: "Speed" war?No way I could go back to a 5Mbps connection. I require at least 10Mbps, preferably 15. |
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IowaCowboyLost in the Supermarket Premium Member join:2010-10-16 Springfield, MA |
GoodI will like having a stable speed as the power boost messes up my computers. It still takes the same amount of time to download a Mac OS/app/iOS update either with or without the Power Boost.
I'd rather not have those teaser speeds especially with blast 50/10. Now they should sunset all DOCSIS 2.0 modems. |
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34764170 (banned) join:2007-09-06 Etobicoke, ON 1 edit |
34764170 (banned)
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2013-Feb-5 10:22 am
said by IowaCowboy:I will like having a stable speed as the power boost messes up my computers. Complete nonsense. |
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Re: "Speed" war?OK, I'm curious... why?
(The only thing I do that requires any speed above 3mbps is streaming video. HD video would use a little more, but not by much. But as I said, that's just me. I used to do backups and other stuff online that used all of my 30/5 connection, but I don't anymore.) |
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34764170 (banned) join:2007-09-06 Etobicoke, ON 1 edit |
34764170 (banned)
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2013-Feb-5 10:24 am
said by NoHereNoMo:OK, I'm curious... why?
(The only thing I do that requires any speed above 3mbps is streaming video. HD video would use a little more, but not by much. But as I said, that's just me. I used to do backups and other stuff online that used all of my 30/5 connection, but I don't anymore.) Streaming and being able to do that and downloads at the same time. Regularly we use 2 Netflix sessions and each one consumes greater than 5Mbps. Then try downloading anything. |
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Re: Goodsaid by IowaCowboy:I will like having a stable speed as the power boost messes up my computers. Okay, I'll bite: How does Powerboost "mess up your computers?" Jim |
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openbox9 Premium Member join:2004-01-26 71144 |
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Re: Rogerssaid by resa1983:They like their customers seeing the right speeds (even for a few seconds) when their network is massively congested But if the network is massively congested, you aren't going to see the "right speed" regardless of bursting. |
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Re: This is just the first stepHow so? Prices are rising regardless of removing the bursting capability. Or are you referring to faster tiers of service? |
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MajestikWorld Traveler Premium Member join:2001-05-11 Tulsa, OK |
to rradina
Re: Will we notice?Does not matter. That is why I have Cox essentials which is about 3/.70. Unless you are doing a lot of downloading or have more than two in your home you are wasting your money. |
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openbox9 Premium Member join:2004-01-26 71144 |
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Re: GoodIt makes establishing QoS profiles more challenging, but beyond that....it's a win for anyone using it. |
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Smith6612 MVM join:2008-02-01 North Tonawanda, NY ·Charter Ubee EU2251 Ubiquiti UAP-IW-HD Ubiquiti UniFi AP-AC-HD
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Bye!Glad to see it going away. Stable speeds that can be adjusted accordingly for, even automatically so end users don't have to put up with it. I've seen PowerBoost as a helpful thing for bursty traffic but nothing more than a gimmick where consistent speed shines over others. |
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Paxio Premium Member join:2011-02-23 Santa Clara, CA |
Paxio
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2013-Feb-5 12:20 pm
PowerBoost? What's that?PowerBoost? What's that? And why would anyone need it if they had a fiber connection? |
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MJB33
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2013-Feb-5 12:26 pm
ROGERS IS A BUNCH OF FLIPPING LYING LIERS.. DON'T EVEN HAVE GIGABIT SPEEDS IN BOTH DIRECTIONS... THEY ARE TO BUSY STEALING YOUR MONEY AND AVOIDING EVERY NETWORK UPGRADE..
BELL IS THE SAME... |
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