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Comments on news posted 2013-02-05 08:41:36: Cable operators appear to be slowly backing away from Comcast's PowerBoost technology now that they're offering speeds that make the technology irrelevant. ..

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brianiscool

join:2000-08-16
Tampa, FL
kudos:1

Large download speed increase, but upload is terrible.

When will their speeds be at least 50, 75 and up for their upload?



chamberc
Premium
join:2008-08-05
Irving, TX

The entire to consumer architecture is built towards asymmetric speed, for download. You'll see 50-75 upload about the time 500 mbps to 1 gbps is common on the download.


resa1983
Premium
join:2008-03-10
North York, ON
kudos:10

Rogers

Not all of the cable industry is..

Rogers here in Canada is still keeping with SpeedBoost. They like their customers seeing the right speeds (even for a few seconds) when their network is massively congested because they're too bloody cheap to do upgrades.
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Battle.net Tech Support MVP


rradina

join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO

Will we notice?

I wonder if web browsing will feel flat after PB dies? My current Charter plan is 15/3 but my DOCSIS 2.0 modem typically maxes out for the first few seconds (30Mbps +). I cannot help but wonder if I lose PB, will media rich web pages not feel as crisp? Will streaming video not start as quickly?



ArrayList
netbus developer
Premium
join:2005-03-19
Evanston, IL

add on feature

if PB dies, I'd be surprised to not see it be an add on feature.



newview
Ex .. Ex .. Exactly
Premium
join:2001-10-01
Parsonsburg, MD
kudos:1

This is just the first step

... toward justifying another price increase.



AnonFTW

@reliablehosting.com
reply to rradina

Re: Will we notice?

said by rradina:

I wonder if web browsing will feel flat after PB dies? My current Charter plan is 15/3 but my DOCSIS 2.0 modem typically maxes out for the first few seconds (30Mbps +). I cannot help but wonder if I lose PB, will media rich web pages not feel as crisp? Will streaming video not start as quickly?

Unless your line is overloaded, no.


gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall

join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA

It's stil offered

I checked in my area yesterday and the packages they offer include powerboost.
They make it sound good with thier flowery marketing lingo.
I still cant tell if its any good like people say or they are just moved by the advertising.
--
Let them eat FIBER!



Morac
Cat god

join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Comcast
reply to rradina

Re: Will we notice?

It's unlikely you'll notice. The only things that really benefited from PB was downloads of large files and filling video stream buffers slightly faster. A 3 Mbps connection is more than enough to load web pages quickly.

A well designed web page should load before doing any of the above. These days sluggish web pages are caused by things like an over abundance of Flash or server issues.
--
The Comcast Disney Avatar has been retired.



Morac
Cat god

join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Comcast

PB is irrelevant

I haven't had PB since last summer when Comcast updated me to 50/10 and really I haven't missed it. PB was useful back in the days of 6 or even 12 Mbps connections, but as speeds increased it lost it's usefulness.

These days, when I can download a 1 GB file in under 3 minutes, the extra few seconds PB would shave off the download is meaningless.

Not to mention that I rarely find servers capable of actually delivering 50 Mbps download speeds, so PB won't really help in that case anyway.

Upload PB is still kind of useful, but the vast majority of people don't do a lot of uploading or if they do, it can be done in the background where upload time isn't as relevant.
--
The Comcast Disney Avatar has been retired.



tiger72
SexaT duorP
Premium
join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
kudos:1
reply to chamberc

Re: Large download speed increase, but upload is terrible.

frankly, they need to use speedboost for uploads now...



skeechan
Ai Otsukaholic
Premium
join:2012-01-26
AA169|170
kudos:2
reply to brianiscool

When they have to in order to compete, not before.



skeechan
Ai Otsukaholic
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join:2012-01-26
AA169|170
kudos:2
reply to newview

Re: This is just the first step

As if they ever had to justifying price increases.



skeechan
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join:2012-01-26
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kudos:2
Reviews:
·Clear Wireless
·Cox HSI
·Verizon FiOS

It is pointless the way they are doing it

Cox used to do it right, uncapping for the first few hundred MB of a DL but a few months ago they "fixed" it so that a 50Mb tier was capped to 55Mb with PB. Who would notice?

I'd love to have an uncapped 8 channel connection for the first say, 500MB. Even with a 150Mb tier that would turn a 30s download into 15s one. And I may even willing to pay a premium for it.



NotTheMama
What Would Earl Do?

join:2012-12-06

"Speed" war?

You mean "numbers" war. Not once have I ever needed more than 5mbps. Yeah, there are things I do that can take advantage of a little bit more speed, but still no more than 10mbps. (How fast do I really need to fill up a buffer?) Yeah, there are things that others do that can take advantage of even higher speeds (or there are simply more people at the customer location). But at this point it's just numbers on a chart. Oh, yes, please... let me pay more for that, thank you so much. Frankly, if I could get back my old 3000/768 Verizon DSL for $30/month... I'd seriously consider it. At 5/1 for $30 I'd be there in a heartbeat.
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"Face piles of trials with smiles; it riles them to believe that you perceive the web they weave."



XANAVirus
Premium
join:2012-03-03
Lavalette, WV
Reviews:
·Comcast
·Callcentric
·AT&T Wireless Br..
·Suddenlink
reply to Morac

Re: PB is irrelevant

Powerboost may be irrelevant, but they still need to offer faster upload speeds.

Those who are content creators, like me (and others), who upload multiple 30-minute videos to YouTube, would appreciate the higher upload - therefore leading to less wait for all the videos to go up.

This would really help me, since even though I have a dedicated uploading computer, because I still have to wait 8 hours for the first of 5-6 videos to be up and I have to do this at night.

Most ISPs offer *only* 1Mbps upload speed, or 3Mbps or 5Mbps. At my location, no one offers higher than 1Mbps, unless you buy ultra-expensive fiber Internet (which is not offered for my house, only for my business location).

[Of course, I can't upload on my business location, because this is not on company time, because I create content for others' entertainment, fun, and myself.]


34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to skeechan

Re: Large download speed increase, but upload is terrible.

Up here the cable providers are doing just that, although still not competing very well.


34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to NotTheMama

Re: "Speed" war?

No way I could go back to a 5Mbps connection. I require at least 10Mbps, preferably 15.



IowaCowboy
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Springfield, MA
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Good

I will like having a stable speed as the power boost messes up my computers. It still takes the same amount of time to download a Mac OS/app/iOS update either with or without the Power Boost.

I'd rather not have those teaser speeds especially with blast 50/10. Now they should sunset all DOCSIS 2.0 modems.


34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

1 edit

said by IowaCowboy:

I will like having a stable speed as the power boost messes up my computers.

Complete nonsense.


NotTheMama
What Would Earl Do?

join:2012-12-06
reply to 34764170

Re: "Speed" war?

OK, I'm curious... why?

(The only thing I do that requires any speed above 3mbps is streaming video. HD video would use a little more, but not by much. But as I said, that's just me. I used to do backups and other stuff online that used all of my 30/5 connection, but I don't anymore.)
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"Face piles of trials with smiles; it riles them to believe that you perceive the web they weave."


34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

1 edit

said by NotTheMama:

OK, I'm curious... why?

(The only thing I do that requires any speed above 3mbps is streaming video. HD video would use a little more, but not by much. But as I said, that's just me. I used to do backups and other stuff online that used all of my 30/5 connection, but I don't anymore.)

Streaming and being able to do that and downloads at the same time. Regularly we use 2 Netflix sessions and each one consumes greater than 5Mbps. Then try downloading anything.


jseymour

join:2009-12-11
Waterford, MI
reply to IowaCowboy

Re: Good

said by IowaCowboy:

I will like having a stable speed as the power boost messes up my computers.

Okay, I'll bite: How does Powerboost "mess up your computers?"

Jim

openbox9
Premium
join:2004-01-26
japan
kudos:2
reply to resa1983

Re: Rogers

said by resa1983:

They like their customers seeing the right speeds (even for a few seconds) when their network is massively congested

But if the network is massively congested, you aren't going to see the "right speed" regardless of bursting.

openbox9
Premium
join:2004-01-26
japan
kudos:2
reply to newview

Re: This is just the first step

How so? Prices are rising regardless of removing the bursting capability. Or are you referring to faster tiers of service?



Majestik
World Traveler
Premium
join:2001-05-11
Tulsa, OK
reply to rradina

Re: Will we notice?

Does not matter. That is why I have Cox essentials which is about 3/.70.
Unless you are doing a lot of downloading or have more than two in your home you are wasting your money.
--
The adventure continues...Sanctuary....


openbox9
Premium
join:2004-01-26
japan
kudos:2
reply to jseymour

Re: Good

It makes establishing QoS profiles more challenging, but beyond that....it's a win for anyone using it.



Smith6612
Premium,MVM
join:2008-02-01
North Tonawanda, NY
kudos:23
Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL
·Frontier Communi..

Bye!

Glad to see it going away. Stable speeds that can be adjusted accordingly for, even automatically so end users don't have to put up with it. I've seen PowerBoost as a helpful thing for bursty traffic but nothing more than a gimmick where consistent speed shines over others.


Paxio
Premium
join:2011-02-23
Santa Clara, CA
kudos:1

PowerBoost? What's that?

PowerBoost? What's that? And why would anyone need it if they had a fiber connection?



MJB

join:2012-01-29

ROGERS IS A BUNCH OF FLIPPING LYING LIERS.. DON'T EVEN HAVE GIGABIT SPEEDS IN BOTH DIRECTIONS... THEY ARE TO BUSY STEALING YOUR MONEY AND AVOIDING EVERY NETWORK UPGRADE..

BELL IS THE SAME...