 gar187erI do this for a living
join:2006-06-24
Dover, DE
kudos:4 | bad link Karl »www.cmcsk.com/releasedetail.cfm?···D=739834
also while they lost some video subs, video revenue went up.
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 newviewEx .. Ex .. ExactlyPremium
join:2001-10-01
Parsonsburg, MD
kudos:1 | said by gar187er:also while they lost some video subs, video revenue went up.
It's not hard to increase video revenue when you raise prices twice a year |
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 bbeesleyVIP
join:2003-08-07
Richardson, TX
kudos:5 | said by newview:It's not hard to increase video revenue when you raise prices twice a year
Video revenues are up 2.5% or about $1B from 2011 to 2012 so the tactic seems to be working for them financially. |
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| You think they'd figure it out... Subscribership for video is flat (at best) or declining (at worst). Subscribership for broadband is growing.
And yet they still insist that "cord-cutters" aren't impacting their business, that Hulu and Netflix are inconsequential, and insist on keeping miserly control over as much content as possible...
Does anybody else see anything wrong with this picture? In many ways, wouldn't Comcast be much better off by embracing this trend and offering IPTV services of their own which could be set up to integrate easily with Windows Media Center, XBMC plugins, AppleTV, etc.? Intelligence... I guess I'm just expecting too much from their leadership...
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 FBGuyPremium
join:2005-03-19
Evanston, IL | reply to newview
Re: bad link Karl ohhhhhhhhhhhhh you went there lol |
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bbeesleyVIP
join:2003-08-07
Richardson, TX
kudos:5 | reply to Androidian
Re: You think they'd figure it out... said by Androidian:And yet they still insist that "cord-cutters" aren't impacting their business, that Hulu and Netflix are inconsequential, and insist on keeping miserly control over as much content as possible...
I would expect that they are right....given the limited amount of content, especially Sports related, and the effort required to setup, I suspect that the majority of video sub losses are to competitors like DirectTV, Dish, AT&T or Verizon. |
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I'll second that. The pay TV business model is on life support. A company like Apple or Intel need to pull the plug... |
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 tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3
·Comcast
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Re: bad link Karl said by newview:said by gar187er:also while they lost some video subs, video revenue went up.
It's not hard to increase video revenue when you raise prices twice a year Yet most people continue to pay, so they feel it is worth the price. |
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tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 Reviews:
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Re: You think they'd figure it out... Please note Apple's model is a pay per episode/season (pretty expensive if you watch more than a couple shows) and nothing realtime so sports and current events are out.
Intel is starting a service which sounds like Netflix but so far might be redbox or even a blockbuster of a fail.
Even Google fiber (which some believe to be the holy grail of broadband  ) chose a standard catv video subscription model. |
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 NormanSPremium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
kudos:9
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Re: bad link Karl said by tshirt:said by newview:said by gar187er:also while they lost some video subs, video revenue went up.
It's not hard to increase video revenue when you raise prices twice a year Yet most people continue to pay, so they feel it is worth the price. And for those of us who don't think it is worth the price, all the Xfinity direct mail goes directly to recycle.
I am not a "cord cutter"; I never had a cord to cut, and never will.
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NormanSPremium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
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Re: You think they'd figure it out... said by tshirt:Please note Apple's model is a pay per episode/season (pretty expensive if you watch more than a couple shows) and nothing realtime so sports and current events are out.
As contrasted with the waste of many money for a broad selection of mostly similar channels with similar shows, when you only watch a couple of shows; and no live sports.
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 IowaCowboyWant to go back to IowaPremium
join:2010-10-16
Springfield, MA
·Comcast
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| Winning the war on Cord Cutters They should waive caps if the subscriber subscribes to expanded basic or higher. I'd be bored without cable. I like to watch Fox News, Weather Channel, and other things.
The reason broadband prices are lower if you subscribe to cable or phone is they still have the same infrastructure costs whether the subscriber is an HSI only customer or subscribes to all the services offered by the MSO so their business model is cable TV subsidizes broadband.
I tried Netflix and I never used it. I found the cable boxes getting more use.
In my opinion I think Netflix is engaged in unfair competition as they are piggybacking on Comcast's infrastructure offering Pay TV at a much lower price than Comcast even though Comcast has the costs of maintaining infrastructure. It would be like Amazon selling electronics in a Best Buy store (using their floor space) at half the price of Best Buy and not paying Best Buy for use of their floor space. There are two forms of competition, fair (which is ethical) and unfair (which is unethical).
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Re: You think they'd figure it out... I can see your point. However, to assume that a certain percentage of people aren't leaving them and the satellite providers behind for Netflix, Hulu, and the like would be a mistake.
Streaming media is getting easier and easier to set up, especially with Roku, smart TVs, and nearly point-and-click apps like PlayOn. XBMC and Plex come to mind as well, for people with a little more technical inclination and an extra PC. Thanks to their Windows-friendly binaries, even people like my senior citizen aged parents have media servers in their homes. (Granted, I was the one that set it up for them... but they could have set it up themselves.)
I hear what you're saying about sports events (and potentially local channels, if your reception with an antenna isn't the greatest). Services like Aereo at least have the potential of filling the gap for local channels... and sports events too, if you care about following the local teams.
ESPN does support streaming from their web site, if you are a subscriber to certain ISPs. If cord-cutting gets even more popular, I can see ESPN providing direct-to-user subscriptions in the future for streaming too - as well as other live event sports channels. There's a potential for greater per-subscriber revenue with the direct-to-user model as well, as ESPN eliminates the cable/satellite middle man and gets their cut of the profits too. I suspect that eventually you may see regional sports networks leverage this model as well.
A couple years ago I wouldn't have considered doing any cord-cutting. Today I feel that I'm on the cusp of doing so. I've amassed a fair number of movies and TV shows on my home media server, subscribe to Hulu and Netflix, and plan to subscribe to Aereo when it becomes available in the DC area.
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Re: Winning the war on Cord Cutters I see where you're going but your analogy doesn't hold up. At best, Netflix using Comcast's connection to provide user-requested content is akin to someone having a package ordered from Amazon delivered to them in Best Buy's parking lot.
An ISP is paid to be a dumb pipe and provide data requested by their users - their customers. It doesn't matter whether this data is a web page, a YouTube video, a Netflix movie, or anything else. Allowing ISPs to build walled gardens (or, in this case, "paywalled gardens") violates the basic principles of network neutrality.
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tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 Reviews:
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Re: bad link Karl I understand that, I've always been a limited basic (OTA is not useable at my location) because I can't see spending the money on "endless channels". for the last 5 months we've had a blast plus promo which added digital preferred HD channels for about $10 a month. While there are a few channels we like, we fell into the pattern of a half dozen shows we actual watch, not worth the $70+ that will be charged next month, so the STB goes back and we become limited basic/hulu+/Netflix customers again.
But it is a choice, and MOST seem unwilling to walk away/reduce their consumption. (sort of a video obesity/ compulsive viewer, an effect that MANY premium luxury services depend on to upsell non- Necessities )
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newviewEx .. Ex .. ExactlyPremium
join:2001-10-01
Parsonsburg, MD
kudos:1 | reply to tshirt
said by tshirt: Yet most people continue to pay, so they feel it is worth the price.
... and those of us who DO drop their cableTV are immediately dinged $15.00 extra per month for HSI because we refuse to subscribe to their crappy cableTV. |
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tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 Reviews:
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Re: You think they'd figure it out... As in my post above "it's a choice" but the limited number of shows/channels watched is human nature even with thousands of available choices you/most will pare it down to a few favorites that they regularly watch.
As far as sports there are plenty shown even on limited basic/OTA for a casual fan, it's a rabid addict that MUST have EVERY sports channel- the reason for the premium price supporting a hugely overpaid industry (as bad or worse than other parts of the entertainment industry IMHO)
and yet, still cheaper then a single trip to the stadium per year for football or a few basketball or baseball games or soccer matches.
TV and CATV IS the cheap way to view sports. |
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tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 Reviews:
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Re: bad link Karl then drop the HSI too.
cable is finally getting the pay back for the years of investment in building an almost ubiquitous plant using private money, something that required billions in subsidies for the Telco to do.
No one forces you too WATCH their crappy TV channels.
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 LightSPremium
join:2005-12-17
Greenville, TX | reply to Androidian
Re: Winning the war on Cord Cutters He'll never get that. Every post related to cable, he posts the same thing.  |
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newviewEx .. Ex .. ExactlyPremium
join:2001-10-01
Parsonsburg, MD
kudos:1 | reply to tshirt
Re: bad link Karl said by tshirt:then drop the HSI too. When the Comcast broadband monopoly in my area is finally broken that is EXACTLY what I intend to do.
said by tshirt:cable is finally getting the pay back for the years of investment in building an almost ubiquitous plant using private money, something that required billions in subsidies for the Telco to do. In MY area Comcast was given local tax incentives 35-40 years ago to build out ... and then when those were removed the price increases began ... now my area is one of the HIGHEST in the nation for basic cable service. When do I get "pay back" for tax moneys I paid for Comcast to expand in my area?
said by tshirt:No one forces you too WATCH their crappy TV channels. ... and I'm not going to spend $20 a month for basic cable to save a $15 a month "so-called-discount" either. |
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