| Value? I've upgraded from 25/25 for $70 to 50/25 for $80 back in July. Though 25/25 was fine (as far as downloads), with the inability to stream Youtube at 1080p even 10% of the time, I'm seriously questioning whether 50/25 is good value or not. |
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| I'd point more to a crappy CDN than I would a last mile connection when it comes to the stability of YouTube's streaming capabilities (or the lack thereof), especially with 720p and 1080p content. |
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join:2004-04-20
Fairfax, VA | reply to praetoralpha
Agreed on the bad youtube connection. I can hit 10MB/sec constantly on my 75/35 with usenet, but sometimes I even have trouble streaming the 240p with nothing else downloading! I have to resort to using multi-threaded flash video downloaders to even hit 1MB/sec. |
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| Boost the Boosters! Hopefully Cablevision gives us a "Boost" to 75/15 or something like that too for no cost to compete 
(Not talking about the standard tier obviously, Boost Plus is currently at 50/8Mbps) |
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Re: Value? its not your internets problem with slow youtube streams its youtube them self, there either throttling everyone or just suffering peak hours i only notice slow youtube streams between 5pm and 12am |
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I don't think the 50/25 will fix the YouTube issue. I am having issues with lag on Youtube vids within Xbox Live. It is a joke. Video plays for 5 secs then for almost a minute, spinning (what is that, discs?). And Xbox Live changed channels (Comedy is gone) in YouTube so you have to have You Tube account and customize. Eff that.
CDN (folks running traceroutes on ATT Uverse, and rogers, and Comcast are showing drops somewhere down the line...).
Call me conspiracy theorist but I wouldn't put it past "carriers" that have "content" to throttle You tube somehow (or so many are watching YouTube that "it" needs serious bump in delivery ...
"Ya broke me pipes!" 
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| Agreed its not a bandwidth issue from your ISP. Its either carriers throttling or YouTube with load issues. |
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 v35_pilotWhoops, there goes another AMUPremium
join:2005-12-12
Fayetteville, NY
 ·ViaTalk
 ·Verizon FiOS
| What the heck, it's only money A 25/25 customer now, I am going to bite on this promo. Brings my bill up to $74/month.
Let's see what sites/services will actually benefit from this increased speed now. Can't help but think it is like having a Lamborghini in Manhattan traffic. |
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| hm ok? I am lost why was I able to upgrade from 50/25 to 75/35 for 10$ (but actually 5$ because of my discount) so normally I would pay 10$ wasn't the upgrade difference from 15/5 to 50/25 , 5$ anyways? |
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Re: Value? Have you tried upping the quality you are watching in? When I had those issues (TW, 10/1) sometimes it actually helped to watch in 720p instead of 360p. Makes no sense, but whatever (may have been a firefox issue with saving tabs, which I also fixed recently, or that weird OpenDNS-youtube path issue).
Yeah, it's infuriating to have that much speed and still be unable to watch youtube normally. |
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| ?? This already was in place in their current "RAI$ED" pricing... internet tiers for 15/5, 25/25 and 50/25 were spaced about $10 apart... notice they don't seem to advertise the 15/5 speed except in entry level triple play.. so in actuality, you'd pay $20 more..
I noticed something kind of sad, a FIOS commercial showing 10 megabits (on a seemingly 15 megabit cable connection) boost to 47 egabits on a seemingly 50 megabit connection during comparable speed tests... assuming cablevision & verizon as the carriers in the NY metro market. Nowhere do I see 15 megabit connections work as 10mbit... unless there is a problem. Conversely, 99% of fios 50 megabit connections register MORE than 50 megabits as do optimum boost... so why advertise that both companies have deflated real world speeds when on average they do not? And if they do, YOU the consumer should complain..
Perhaps if the plans all got a price CUT of $10 each this might actually be a story worth commenting on... |
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 loliPremium
join:2002-08-26
South Richmond Hill, NY | So... I'm on the 35/35 option. Will 10 bucks give me 50/25 or 75/35. Either way, I mostly enjoy the upload. They should make it 5 bucks! |
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v35_pilotWhoops, there goes another AMUPremium
join:2005-12-12
Fayetteville, NY Reviews:
·ViaTalk
·Verizon FiOS
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Re: What the heck, it's only money
Speedtest |
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 cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:7 | reply to v35_pilot
said by v35_pilot:Let's see what sites/services will actually benefit from this increased speed now. Can't help but think it is like having a Lamborghini in Manhattan traffic. That's more or less why they can offer 50mbps for not that much more...most people can't/won't utilize the extra speed. As in your case, there isn't much that you legitimately need 50mbps for that 25mbps doesn't provide. Yes you might get you are downloading twice as fast if the sender has the bandwidth. And then what? The connection already sits near idle browsing the web. Streaming 1080p content won't max out 25mbps. Large software downloads complete faster...but how often do you really need that? Even P2P or other file sharing can max out the pipe but it's not really needed...a 2 hour BD can be downloaded almost as fast as it can be watched. |
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Re: Value? said by cableties  Call me conspiracy theorist but I wouldn't put it past "carriers" that have "content" to throttle You tube somehow (or so many are watching YouTube that "it" needs serious bump in delivery ...
"Ya broke me pipes!"
I wouldn't call it a conspiracy, more like a case of major incompetence when it comes to the way VZ handles their DNS. It is comically sad when a mobile connection can buffer quicker. Many are starting to agree that for optimal use you have to register for an alternative such as OpenDNS or you can just plug right up to Google's public DNS without an account. |
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| 15/5 I live alone and if I had two or three people living in my household. I would have at least the 150Mbps package. |
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v35_pilotWhoops, there goes another AMUPremium
join:2005-12-12
Fayetteville, NY Reviews:
·ViaTalk
·Verizon FiOS
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Re: What the heck, it's only money said by cdru:That's more or less why they can offer 50mbps for not that much more...most people can't/won't utilize the extra speed. As in your case, there isn't much that you legitimately need 50mbps for that 25mbps doesn't provide. Agreed - I do have three very active Internet users (older children) at home so at any given time I don't necessarily have to worry about bandwidth constraints any more, but in general how much of this pipe will go unused? I will take note of that. |
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Re: So... said by loli:I'm on the 35/35 option. Will 10 bucks give me 50/25 or 75/35. Either way, I mostly enjoy the upload. They should make it 5 bucks!
$10 will give you 50/25 according to this. So you'd be losing upload speed.
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Re: Value? DNS has nothing to do with how a video buffers. |
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 tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3
·Comcast
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said by cableties:Call me conspiracy theorist but I wouldn't put it past "carriers" that have "content" to throttle You tube somehow (or so many are watching YouTube that "it" needs serious bump in delivery ...
"Ya broke me pipes!"
I think the YouTube problem is BECAUSE so many now have access to 25Mbps +++ connections that aggregate total bandwidth can at time overwhelm the CDN's gateway AND servers at times of high demand.
It's not throttling, it's demand exceeding available resources...an exoflood if you like that term |
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