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Comments on news posted 2013-02-25 08:56:30: GM has kicked Verizon to the curb and will instead now use AT&T's LTE network to power embedded broadband services in the company's vehicles. ..

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pandora
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join:2001-06-01
Outland
kudos:1

Is onstar used by many?

I'm uncertain how many people use onstar. Is this a big deal??
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elios

join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO

yea its pretty well used
the big news is AT&T's crap network and coverage


cahiatt
Premium
join:2001-03-21
Smyrna, GA

This will be interesting....

1) For OnStar users within major metro areas where AT&T has good (subject to debate) coverage the only issue I wonder about are any of the existing vehicles capable of switching over to AT&T? GM left a bunch of 04 and older vehicle owners with non-functioning OnStar due to a change in the past. Did they have the foresight to make current systems GSM capable?

2) For OnStar users outside major metro areas where AT&T has most likely crap coverage. These are the users that may actually need emergency services. They may be in an area with little or no traffic for assistance from passing motorist, nearly out of gas and trying to find a close (and open) gas station or other scenarios. What happens when these folks not have no coverage when they did before under Verizon.

Dodge
Premium
join:2002-11-27

This is going to be great

I can just imagine GM service departments full of idiots whining that their radio doesn't work and service reps patiently trying to explain to them that they were streaming audio and if there is no cell coverage they are SOL. Or you are driving kids somewhere and the streaming video in the back keeps crapping out, making for a wonderful trip.

On top of that I wonder if the pre-recorded something like this into the car: "The system has detected airbag deployment. Unfortunately since you've traveled outside of AT&T LTE coverage area, this information was not transmitted to OnStar and no help will be dispatched. Thank you for choosing GM and AT&T. If you survive this accident we sincerely hope you recommend us to all your friends"

rradina

join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO

Stuck w/ATT?

Cars generally last longer than phones. Will they have a removable SIM so we can choose a different carrier? Can the cellular radio be replaced when LTE is superseded by MUF (I know it's Monday morning but think about it)?

Joe12345678

join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL

so if you are in the usa and drive into Canada $10+ a meg

so if you are in the usa and drive into Canada who is billed the $10+ a meg?

kaila

join:2000-10-11
Lincolnshire, IL

This won't come cheap....

I'd imagine monthly subscription rates will fall around AT&T's current Data Connect plan ($50mo) with a lower data cap to cover OnStar service and any GM subsidy.

I'd much rather use the smartphone I already have to provide the WAN for an in-car network (sans OnStar, I know).

ssavoy
Premium
join:2007-08-16
Dallas, PA

reply to elios

Re: Is onstar used by many?

Stop beating a dead horse.

Technicholas

join:2010-11-11
Winterset, IA

I hope they use GSM and CDMA backup

I live in a area with spotty AT&T coverage Verizon works the best no drop calls etc, but when I get to the middle of nowhere AT&T says "Searching" hope onstar doesn't do that.


Dominokat
Hi
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join:2002-08-06
Boothbay, ME
kudos:2
Reviews:
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ATT sucks

Seeing that ATT service is sketchy at best here in rural areas of Maine, (NOTHING native in northern Maine, and IF it roams it isn't even 3G) does that mean if I am in an area outside ATT that Onstar wouldn't work? Verizon covers most of the state in at least 3G with many areas now offering LTE.


compuguybna

join:2009-06-17
Nashville, TN

AT&T lte sucks

Verizon definately has more LTE coverage than AT&T.

ONSTAR is nothing than spyware anyway.

andyross
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-04
Schaumburg, IL

reply to cahiatt

Re: This will be interesting....

It sounds like only 2015 and newer cars will use AT&T. Older cars will continue to use Verizon.

The 'change in the past' was the carrier's elimination of analog service, which many older cars used.


xdeadhead
220, 221, Whatever It Takes.
Premium
join:2000-11-08
Mechanicsburg, PA

reply to ssavoy

Re: Is onstar used by many?

truth hurts, eh?

ssavoy
Premium
join:2007-08-16
Dallas, PA

Ignoring the fact AT&T has better coverage in my market....they had crews adding LTE to the tower near my house this morning.


Crypto_Bug

join:2001-05-31
Torrington, CT

What a horrible decision

Guess I will never buy another GM vehicle. I am getting ready to trade in my 2011 GMC when the 2014 vehicles come out, even if this is affecting 2015 and future vehicles I will stop buying GM's now. I will be switching back to Ford. Ford quality is better anyways.
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xdeadhead
220, 221, Whatever It Takes.
Premium
join:2000-11-08
Mechanicsburg, PA

reply to ssavoy

Re: Is onstar used by many?

your market? like anyone but you gives a crap about your market.

openbox9
Premium
join:2004-01-26
japan
kudos:2

reply to Crypto_Bug

Re: What a horrible decision

Save yourself money and hatred by not subscribing to OnStar. No reason to give up on GM if that's what you want.

openbox9
Premium
join:2004-01-26
japan
kudos:2

reply to kaila

Re: This won't come cheap....

OnStar isn't cheap now, so it won't be too surprising if this comes in with a big price tag. If you want control over your vehicle's media system, much better to go aftermarket. It's not always as neat or seamless, but you can get what you want.

en103

join:2011-05-02
Reviews:
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reply to xdeadhead

Re: Is onstar used by many?

Personally, I see this more of a global technology change than a 'AT&T is better than VZW'.

Why -
VZW does have LTE 'and' CDMA to cover the vast majority of the country
AT&T has GSM / UMTS / LTE to cover the majority of the country.

On a global scale - I suspect that GM is abandonning CDMA chipset completely for any new products. As VZW hasn't completed LTE, and GSM/UMTS is by far the largest footprint on the planet ( »www.4gamericas.org/index.cfm?fus···geid=565 ) moving to an all GSM/UMTS/LTE based deployment does make sense - even if it happens to end up on AT&T.

Mr Matt

join:2008-01-29
Eustis, FL
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Reviews:
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More OnStar BS.

When the wireless carriers eliminated all analog service OnStar subscribers owning automobiles manufactured before a certain date had to have the OnStar circuit boards in there automobiles replaced by a local dealer with new boards at their expense. Who will pay to replace CDMA circuit boards with GSM compatible circuit boards?

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