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Comments on news posted 2013-02-25 10:38:15: After several significant delays, the entertainment industry and most of the nation's largest ISPs are set to launch their "six strikes" graduated response anti-piracy efforts starting today. ..

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jc100

join:2002-04-10

1 recommendation

Well now people have a legal out...

They've read the material, spent 35 to protest their innocence (open router, etc), and thus when the MPAA / RIAA try to sue, have a ground to argue they didn't know until informed.

I highly doubt any ISPS are going to cut the cord. They aren't about losing money.

elios

join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO

Re: Well now people have a legal out...

Mediacom already does after 3 DMCA letters not even proof you did any thing JUST the letters
TOTALLY couldnt abuse that get some one kicked off nope not at all...
silbaco
Premium
join:2009-08-03
USA

Re: Well now people have a legal out...

Quite honestly, I know 1 person who got their connection cut under Mediacom's 3 strikes. And they were completely guilty. I don't know of any instances of false strikes and I know of a lot of people with Mediacom. Most people don't even know it exists. That's how transparent it is. It took Torrentfreak years to figure it out.

elios

join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO

Re: Well now people have a legal out...

a DMCA letter is not proof of guilt
its not proof of any thing really
Chubbysumo

join:2009-12-01
Superior, WI
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Re: Well now people have a legal out...

said by elios:

a DMCA letter is not proof of guilt
its not proof of any thing really

especially seeing as the courts have said an IP does not equal a person, and the companies that track these torrents and P2P networks are using very unreliable information that can no longer even be submitted to most courts.

FFH5
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said by silbaco:

Quite honestly, I know 1 person who got their connection cut under Mediacom's 3 strikes. And they were completely guilty. I don't know of any instances of false strikes and I know of a lot of people with Mediacom.

Probably 99.99% of those caught are guilty. All the angst over copyright infringement is coming from those too cheap to pay for their music & movies.
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Re: Well now people have a legal out...

said by FFH5:

Probably 99.99% of those caught are guilty. All the angst over copyright infringement is coming from those too cheap to pay for their music & movies.

I like your linr of reasoning!

Hyperbolically speaking: "It is better that ten innocent men hang than that one guilty man goes free."
--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
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FFH5
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Re: Well now people have a legal out...

said by NormanS:

said by FFH5:

Probably 99.99% of those caught are guilty. All the angst over copyright infringement is coming from those too cheap to pay for their music & movies.

I like your linr of reasoning!

Hyperbolically speaking: "It is better that ten innocent men hang than that one guilty man goes free."

6 strikes is a game of statistics, just like the criminal justice system is. Sometimes an innocent is caught up in it. C'est la vie.
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Re: Well now people have a legal out...

said by FFH5:

6 strikes is a game of statistics, just like the criminal justice system is. Sometimes an innocent is caught up in it. C'est la vie.

It should not be; especially not the criminal justice system. "Six Strikes" is a rigged game of statistics; rigged in favor of the MAFIAA.
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Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

Rasgyle
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Troy, IL

Re: Well now people have a legal out...

I like that you are the voice of reason here. Me, I usually just ignore trolls. Some people live to be a stooge. So, thanks for doing a thankless job. Consider yourself a special education teacher.

CosmicDebri
Still looking for intelligent life

join:2001-09-01
Port Saint Lucie, FL
said by FFH5:

6 strikes is a game of statistics, just like the criminal justice system is. Sometimes an innocent is caught up in it. C'est la vie.

You say that until it happens to you or someone in your family....
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Rasgyle
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Troy, IL

Re: Well now people have a legal out...

I think you're being too kind. Budget would probably sell his or her family members for $35 each. Hell, take 'em all. Volume discount. Black looks better on a ledger. Cruelty is complimentary.

Jawz

@hansonwatson.com
What about all those who watch TV shows and miss an episode or have to work during it's airing?

FFH5
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Re: Well now people have a legal out...

said by Jawz :

What about all those who watch TV shows and miss an episode or have to work during it's airing?

DVR, OnDemand, network web site, buy it later from Amazon or iTunes, or god forbid just miss that episode.
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Bearfoot

@comcast.net
Buy the DVD like the entertainment industry wants you too.

ducksssss

@ubalt.edu

1 recommendation

I'm not too cheap to pay for movies and music. I'm too cheap to settle for shit. For example itunes is lame...if I want to BUY an album or Record I want that shit on Vinyl with warm Analog sound and cover art that can be appreciated. Secondly not every album or movie can be found these days, and that applies to major providers online as well. Secondly I pay for Netflix, Cable TV, and Internet that's already a lot of income going towards entertainment. Not to mention I still go to movies, live musical performances, etc. Should I really have to pay for an album or movie I've seen or heard plenty of times? And that I've previously paid for? The majority of the money I would be spending anyways would most likely go to a major movie company like Viacom so they can crunch numbers and make another shitty adam sandler movie for a quick buck, without ever caring about the material. And whats the point of going to see a movie in theaters anymore? There are 20 minutes of fucking advertisements before the movie starts, same with television, on average 14 to 16 minutes of every hour is more advertisements for products no one wants. And now get on youtube and more of OUR time is wasted on more pointless products. All of this can be avoided...and it involves NOT buying this shit. That's not to say don't support good "artists" making great pieces of art. The United States is already too consumer driven, and the movie industry has continually set records at the Box office year after year. You should consider that this issue isn't about a bunch of people wanting shit for free, but demanding a better service, innovative technology, freedom of culture, and information.
Rekrul

join:2007-04-21
Milford, CT
said by FFH5:

Probably 99.99% of those caught are guilty. All the angst over copyright infringement is coming from those too cheap to pay for their music & movies.

I want to legally download some recent movies that I can burn to a data DVD and watch on my DVD player (which plays Divx files). I don't want to have to use proprietary software to do it. Where do I go to buy (not rent) them?

Bearfoot

@comcast.net
[citation needed]
silbaco
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join:2009-08-03
USA

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Saying you have an open router will very possible just result in a loss of $35. They don't care. They are tracking strikes by account, not person.
jc100

join:2002-04-10

1 recommendation

Re: Well now people have a legal out...

Yes, but you've spent 35 dollars to profess innocence. ISP "exonerates you", and the MPAA / RIAA have now lost grounds to sue I'm guessing. After all, open router, hacked, etc, the ISP buys your excuse for the "fee".

If taken to court, bring said I was found innocent due to X reason. 35 dollars is a lot cheaper than the 1000's a lawyer costs to make the same case.
silbaco
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USA

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Re: Well now people have a legal out...

But the whole point of the 6 strikes is to cut down on lawsuits. The RIAA has supposedly agreed not to sue customers of participating ISPs, although we will have to see for sure.
Chubbysumo

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said by jc100:

If taken to court, bring said I was found innocent due to X reason. 35 dollars is a lot cheaper than the 1000's a lawyer costs to make the same case.

if you win, they pay your lawyers fees, and other things like time off required or damages to reputation and such. The MPAA, or anyone related will not sue anyone anymore because one simply has to file bankruptcy to get out of any judgement against you, and for that matter, they just wasted hours of time on a case to not get paid anything, which would be fine with me.

Pirate515
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Brooklyn, NY

Re: Well now people have a legal out...

said by Chubbysumo:

...one simply has to file bankruptcy to get out of any judgement against you, and for that matter, they just wasted hours of time on a case to not get paid anything, which would be fine with me.

Well, that doesn't just screw them, that affects you as well. Bankruptcy will tarnish your credit report for the next 7 years, meaning that any applications for mortgages, car loans, credit cards, new cell phone contracts, etc. will be denied on the spot. Trying to rent a new apartment? Many landlords run background checks. The second they see bad credit, they will deny you. Same thing with jobs. Many employers also run background checks, and credit check if a part of many of them.
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axus

join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC

Re: Well now people have a legal out...

Ouch, that seems disproportionate to the offense of copyright infringement.

NormanS
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Re: Well now people have a legal out...

said by axus:

Ouch, that seems disproportionate to the offense of copyright infringement.

That is the point. The MAFIAA wants Draconian penalties in a de juris system which costs them nothing to bring a complaint, and for which the penalty is 100% certain in their favor, and sufficiently harsh that Internet users will quake in their chairs as they surf the 'net.

They seem to think they will mitigate piracy by hammering the little guy hard.

Personally, I don't think it will work. For all the piracy I committed, I never feared their hammer; I was not pirating their "junk". I did not stop my piracy out of fear of the MAFIAA; but only because the "stuff" I wanted became easily, and legally available.
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Norman
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Rekrul

join:2007-04-21
Milford, CT
said by Chubbysumo:

The MPAA, or anyone related will not sue anyone anymore because one simply has to file bankruptcy to get out of any judgement against you, and for that matter, they just wasted hours of time on a case to not get paid anything, which would be fine with me.

Tell that to Jammie Thomas and Joel Tenenbaum.

Even if they never get paid, a large judgement serves to scare others.

And after all the lobbying the MPAA & RIAA have done to get new copyright laws passed around the world, especially with them asking for even harsher fines and even criminal penalties for copyright infringement, do you really think that after six alerts to the same IP address, they've just going to shrug and say "Oh well, I guess they're not going to stop. Let's just ignore them from now on."?

Not a chance. If the same IP address keeps showing up after the first six strikes, they will take some kind of legal action.

There's no way in hell that the MPAA/RIAA would ever agree to a system that gives a free pass to repeat infringers.

Pirate515
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said by jc100:

Yes, but you've spent $35 to profess innocence. ISP "exonerates" you, and the MPAA/RIAA have now lost grounds to sue I'm guessing. After all, open router, hacked, etc., the ISP buys your excuse for a "fee".

IMO, if you are stupid enough to spend $35 to profess your innocence, you are wasting your money, time and efforts. The "review panel" or whatever it is called is very likely biased in favor of MAFIAA. They will happily take your money, then BS you that after "extensive" and "careful" review they still believe that you are at fault and if you wish to appeal, you will need to spend even more money with no guarantee that they will decide in your favor. Personally, I would rather spend a bit more on VPN service, at least that money won't be going to MAFIAA's campaign to restrict our Internet use even more.

said by jc100:

If taken to court, bring said I was found innocent due to X reason. $35 is a lot cheaper than thousands a lawyer costs to make the same case.

The problem is that you are paying $35 for a private investigation, the results of which have absolutely no impact on the outcome of the actual court case. If you are unlucky enough to be the target of their lawsuit, your best bet is to settle with them if they offer it, otherwise you have no choice but to lawyer up and defend yourself.
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Rekrul

join:2007-04-21
Milford, CT
said by jc100:

Yes, but you've spent 35 dollars to profess innocence. ISP "exonerates you", and the MPAA / RIAA have now lost grounds to sue I'm guessing. After all, open router, hacked, etc, the ISP buys your excuse for the "fee".

Your case is looked at by an arbitration company paid for by the copyright holder. Your ISP isn't involved in the process. Since the arbitration company will want to continue being hired, there is a very strong incentive for them to find in favor of the copyright holder.

88615298
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West Tenness

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said by jc100:

They've read the material, spent 35 to protest their innocence (open router, etc), and thus when the MPAA / RIAA try to sue, have a ground to argue they didn't know until informed.

I highly doubt any ISPS are going to cut the cord. They aren't about losing money.

If you leave your router open you kind of deserve to get your internet cut off. Anyone spending $35 to protest is an idiot. It's called 6 strikes and then NOTHING happens so why bother spending $35? And I'll be $1,000,000 not one single innocent person gets flagged 6 times in a row. EVER. WILL NOT HAPPEN.

NormanS
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Re: Well now people have a legal out...

said by 88615298:

And I'll be $1,000,000 not one single innocent person gets flagged 6 times in a row. EVER. WILL NOT HAPPEN.

Nothing can go wrong ...

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEHniGifKyE


Murphy will see your million, and raise you another million!
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CXM_Splicer
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Re: Well now people have a legal out...

Great movie. . Maybe I will watch that tonight.

88615298
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Ok let's say by some chance you are flagged erroneously 6 times. guess what happens? NOTHING. It's like a parent telling a kid to stop doing something or else they'll just keep telling them to stop doing it. Who cares? What kid would be afraid of that parent?
Rekrul

join:2007-04-21
Milford, CT

Re: Well now people have a legal out...

said by 88615298:

Ok let's say by some chance you are flagged erroneously 6 times. guess what happens? NOTHING. It's like a parent telling a kid to stop doing something or else they'll just keep telling them to stop doing it. Who cares? What kid would be afraid of that parent?

You've just outlined the very reason that there WILL be legal action taken against people who don't stop sharing copyrighted files after the first six alerts. Or whose IP address shows up more than six times.

In case you hadn't noticed, the copyright industry is a rabid supporter of harsher penalties for copyright infringement. Doesn't it seem odd to you that they would agree to a plan with no teeth?

It's true that the six strikes plan itself doesn't detail anything happening beyond the sixth strike, but that's only to avoid the negative PR that would result if they had included further penalties in writing. If you read the fine print, it says that after the first six alerts, information will continue to be collected and then the copyright holder can get a court order to turn over the subscriber's information in order to file legal action against them.
jc100

join:2002-04-10

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Open router = Open Excuse. Sure, they can sue you for tens of millions and no they won't get far. However, they can put a lean on your house, garnish wages, etc. They might not see your life savings wiped, but they can definitely bankrupt you. Even if you file bankruptcy, creditors now have to agree to dissolve debt. Bankruptcy under Bush changed. It's no longer the carte blance (blank check) to walking away free and clear.
wTheOnew

join:2012-03-09
So if someone steals something of yours it's your fault right? Makes sense.

Leave an outside electrical outlet unlocked it's you're own fault your neighbor ran an extension cord to it.

Leave your car unlocked it's your fault someone stole it.

It's all the same. It blows my mind that there are people out there that would blame the victim.

aleahe

@comcast.net

Re: Well now people have a legal out...

i left my purse in my car overnight once and left the doors unlocked. it was gone the next morning. definitely my fault.
dmhowell

join:2005-09-29
Hulls Cove, ME

Re: Well now people have a legal out...

There is a difference between taking responsibility for ones own actions and being persecuted by others for those same actions.
Rekrul

join:2007-04-21
Milford, CT
said by 88615298:

It's called 6 strikes and then NOTHING happens so why bother spending $35?

Because if your IP address keeps showing up after the six strikes, you can bet your ass that something will happen. Most likely some kind of legal action.
Joe12345678

join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL

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just file a allegation ageist all IP's

just file a allegation ageist all IP's and do it say 10 times and this will die.

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IowaCowboy
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Just legally download your content

I download my music on iTunes and I can buy movies on iTunes as well. I have never gotten a copyright warning because I pay for my content and get it from legitimate sources.

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Offender99

@verizon.net

I'm pretty sure...

I read that after your 5th violation you get a 6 month term at a regional "Reeducation Camp".

anonphoneuse

@comcast.net

what about the 7th time ?

i have read that nothing happens after the sixth strike.

i have also read that ISPs will not be turning over information on subscribers.

so does that mean its a good idea to get the six strikes over with to enjoy unrestricted internet from that point on?

perhaps we(the people of the internet) should compile a list of likely false detected downloads allowing people to legally hop through the six strikes without actually pirating anything.

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anonphoneuse

@comcast.net

will $35 reset my count ?

if i pay $35 and win my case does it reset my count and i go through six new strikes?

if so it sounds much better to me to get the six over with since nothing happens after the sixth strike.

FFH5
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Re: will $35 reset my count ?

said by anonphoneuse :

if i pay $35 and win my case does it reset my count and i go through six new strikes?

if so it sounds much better to me to get the six over with since nothing happens after the sixth strike.

In your case, only Comcast can answer that question. Each ISP will have its own enforcement process. The $35 fee is to pay the arbitrator, who decides if you were wronged. But it is up to Comcast on doing something about it.

»www.copyrightinformation.org/the···t-alert/
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Rekrul

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Milford, CT
said by anonphoneuse :

if i pay $35 and win my case does it reset my count and i go through six new strikes?

You won't win your case because the review board will be a company paid for by the copyright owner.

said by anonphoneuse :

if so it sounds much better to me to get the six over with since nothing happens after the sixth strike.

By what stretch of the imagination do you believe that the same corporations who think that distributing copyrighted material should be a felony, would agree to a system that just ignores repeat infringers?

M22

@allstream.net

Sux Strikes

said by IowaCowboy:

I download my music on iTunes and I can buy movies on iTunes as well. I have never gotten a copyright warning because I pay for my content and get it from legitimate sources.

So when you're given strikes for false positives then what? You can't prove innocence any more than someone who is guilty. Oh but their system must be 100% perfect right?
ke4pym
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Charlotte, NC

Queue the class-action lawsuits in

Three
Two
One

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georgeglass5

join:2010-06-07
New York, NY

Won't using

vpn-make these efforts moot?

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Mr Matt

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ISP's need not be accurate pull information out of anus.

If the same level of accuracy is used to identify the IP address of subscribers downloading copyrighted material as is used to measure data consumption against CAPS all is lost. I am sure that the ISP's do not care whether or not they are accurate. They will get $35.00 if the subscriber wants to protest a false accusation that they downloaded copyrighted material. Essentially the six strikes plan is copyright trolling. Since we have the most corrupt government money can buy, do not hold out hope that government will act to regulate data meters or insure the accurately of the linking of IP addresses to subscriber accounts.
silbaco
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USA

Re: ISP's need not be accurate pull information out of anus.

ISPs don't get to pocket a cent of the $35.

MJB

join:2012-01-29

Re: ISP's need not be accurate pull information out of anus.

hack the copyright alert system. shut it down

FacesOfDoo

@sbcglobal.net

Hate to break it to these ISPs...

People don't have high speed connections to surf the information superhighway, watch youtube videos or play video games just like those "Wand Massagers" arent really for achy backs and necks.

If subscribers start receiving letters and punishment they'll just downgrade their current service or find another ISP and most probably won't subscribe to VPNs because 1. current prices will skyrocket 2. whats the point of paying for something?

FFH5
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Re: Hate to break it to these ISPs...

said by FacesOfDoo :

People don't have high speed connections to surf the information superhighway, watch youtube videos or play video games...

Actually they do.
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FacesOfDoo

@sbcglobal.net

Re: Hate to break it to these ISPs...

said by FFH5:

said by FacesOfDoo :

People don't have high speed connections to surf the information superhighway, watch youtube videos or play video games just like those "Wand Massagers" arent really for achy backs and necks.

Actually they do.

You're right, some people actually use those "Wand Massagers" for achy backs and necks.
brianiscool

join:2000-08-16
Tampa, FL
kudos:1

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Economy

Let me know if this boosts the economy on spending for merchandise.

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jax0r

@ethostream.com

This might suck for hotels

i do hotel tech support and hotels are treated like home users to alot of isp's, ive seen hotel internet cut off due to dmca notices and virus alerts.

problem is these are open networks that anyone staying at the hotel can use and its near impossible to prevent P2P and virus's from causing issues, we block most of it but without a very powerfull hardware firewall we cant stop it all.

all isp's tell us to do is password protect the network, which we do but that doesnt stop the guests with the passwords from causing problems

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Jo1985

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Laval, QC

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Solidarite

Tenez vous par la main,tenez vous ensemble,comme le gouvernement fait de son coté,comme la police le fait de son coté,comme l'armée le fait,comme une colonie de ofurmis le fait face à un envahisseur...

Tenez vous,coupez tous ensemble les service internet,protestez vous aussi.Que les salaire de vedette diminue...Les fil mvont couté moins chère.

Mais de toute facon,ce n'Est pas une question de légalité ou ilégalité.
Réveillez-vous!
Dans les jeuxvideo,il existe les jeu d'occaz,et bien les compagnies veulent éliminé la revente de jeu.Il veule que tous paie le prix d'un jeu neuf.

Même s'il n'y avait pas de telechargement dit illégal selon ceux qui veule tous quont paie le meme prix malgré le fait que nous faisont pas tous le meme salaire ,ils trouverait le moyen illogique de nous faire payez encore plus chère.

Toute facon,j'achèterai pas plus que maintenant,et si je vois que c'est pu possible de telecharger sans embrouille,je couperai mon service internet (qui est deja coupé actuellement, viva free wifi).

Les citoyens ordinaires,ils nous manque qu'un e chose,et c'est de se tenir tous ensemble face au system qui nous impose ses règle stricte ses nouveau règlements,sinon rien en changera.Nous faisont peut-etre un salaire différent,vous avez peut-etre une ferrari alors que mois j'ai une chevette*,mais nous vivons selon les même règles,le meme system....Faut que l'ont se tienne,comme le system lui meme se tien entre lui.

MJB

join:2012-01-29

What About Canada

Will This End Up In Canada ?
Third Party ISP's
Not The Big ISP's

js

@rr.com

Worst idea ever?

This should be titled "How to make Piracy Worse" hahaha

NOYB
St. John 3.16
Premium
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Forest Grove, OR
kudos:1

Encryption


Let's see them snoop that.

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Anonymous
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IA
kudos:2

Mediacom FTW!

Man I sure am glad to use Mediacom! Now I don't have to worry about this. The worst thing that can happen is they ban you for life after 3 strikes. It won't cost me $35 too. Worst case I have to pay the early termination fee.
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silbaco
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USA

Re: Mediacom FTW!

I thought the early termination fee was waivered?

Anonymous
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Re: Mediacom FTW!

If you are under contract they will charge you the ETF.
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younamehere

@verizon.net

Did we forgot our Pirate Anthem?

Did we forgot our Pirate Anthem?

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fUv-WY0DDo

motorola870

join:2008-12-07
Arlington, TX
kudos:4

epic Fail!

they rely on ip addresses not mac address info which means that dynamic ip addresses are not static and someone could be sent the letter for someone else's downloads face palm :P

lordfly

join:2000-10-12
Homestead, FL

Re: epic Fail!

I thought that as well. But you could always bounce your connection all over the world. How are they going to deal with that?

That video sucked. I almost barfed.

Xioden
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Monticello, NY
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Free VPN and Usenet

Well, at least for those stuck on crappy DSL there are some nice free VPN services out there. I can't comment on the speed of them if you're on a faster connection.

I've been using »www.vpnbook.com/ for a couple weeks for torrents with no issues.