| Ahh good ol hijack I just love how easy it is for a company to hijack your browsing session...
Wonder if this works using a third party DNS with DNSCrypt? :P If not guess I would never know.. |
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| Blockers? NotScripts for Chrome or a popup blocker would get around this I'd assume. So there are no other repercussions for the reported abuse? Seems kind of silly. |
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| It goes on your permanent record. |
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Mr Matt
join:2008-01-29
Eustis, FL
kudos:1 Reviews:
 ·CenturyLink
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·Embarq Now Centu..
| Locked up in a walled garden. As I read Comcast's policy, the customers will not allowed access to the internet except for essential websites (which websites considered essential are not defined) unless the customer takes some action to exit the walled garden. If you want to contest a copyright violation letter pay up $35.00. If it was not for the punitive fee and I received such notice and I had never downloaded copyrighted music illegally, I would try to work with the ISP to determine why my account was identified as violating the DMCA. Of course if the the notice was sent because of sloppy work on the part of the ISP's employees, perhaps they would not want to identify why the account holder received notice. |
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 kontosxyzzy
join:2001-10-04
West Henrietta, NY | reply to blocked
Re: Blockers? Not really. The ISP can move you to a network where there is a DNS/Web server that replaces entire webpages with that content. They don't need to do it with scripts or pop-ups. They can put you in a walled garden that isn't really the Internet.
Who know what they do with non HTTP traffic in that situation... |
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Re: Locked up in a walled garden. if they deny you product for which you're paying you can just cancel the contract with no etf. |
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 Fangz
join:2000-10-11
Magna, UT | How to prove your guilty... It will be hard to prove your guilty when the courts have stated that you can't link and IP to an individual.
For those individuals that do not have their wireless locked down, this will be a call to get it done. |
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 bradyrColumbia College ITPremium
join:2008-10-27
Sonora, CA
·Comcast
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Re: Ahh good ol hijack Well, at least Comcast gets an excuse to use their message injection system/notification system:
»tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6108
next step will be deep packet inspection and/or advertisement message injections ("Did you pay your bill yet?" "Want to have this site load faster?" "Hey, we noticed you're downloading [xyz]") |
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 LinklistPremium
join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | The sketchy part is contacting Comcast Security group To end the blocker pop ups, you have to contact Comcast's Customer Security Assurance dept. And that is where the punishment may click in. Comcast's Security department is notoriously unresponsive, undermanned, and never returns calls. To actually get Comcast to stop the blocker or walled garden may be quite an ordeal, especially if they get buried in a large number of violations. The offending infringer may not be disconnected by Comcast, but they may end up waiting many days to get back online.
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openbox9Premium
join:2004-01-26
japan
kudos:2 | reply to Fangz
Re: How to prove your guilty... This isn't about proving your guilt. Rather it seems about you attempting to prove your innocence, or at least jumping through hoops to get your connection back. |
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LinklistPremium
join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | reply to Mr Matt
Re: Locked up in a walled garden. said by Mr Matt:As I read Comcast's policy, the customers will not allowed access to the internet except for essential websites (which websites considered essential are not defined) unless the customer takes some action to exit the walled garden.
I believe they used the term essential SERVICES. Meaning your voice calls will still work, and your home security application will work. But you wouldn't be able to browse anywhere as long as the browser hijack is active.
»customer.comcast.com/help-and-su···services
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Comcast designed our browser alert system not to interfere with a subscriber’s essential services, such as digital telephone service (for example to call 911) whoever the telephone service provider, email, security or health service.
And when they say email will work, they mean their email system, not a web email app like gmail.
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I will be perfectly happy if the budget cuts specified in the Budget Control Act go into effect. 3 cheers for the sequester. Take the money from the drunken federal spenders. |
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 fuziwuziNot born yesterdayPremium
join:2005-07-01
Atlanta, GA | reply to AnonMan
Re: Ahh good ol hijack Yay for VPN!  |
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Mr Matt
join:2008-01-29
Eustis, FL
kudos:1 | reply to silentlooker
Re: Locked up in a walled garden. And go where for internet access? |
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SunnyD
join:2009-03-20
Madison, AL | So extortion racket by the **AA & ISPs? $35 "fee" to just contest an allegation of infringement and get your service back to "normal"?
This won't get abused. Ever! |
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Mr Matt
join:2008-01-29
Eustis, FL
kudos:1 | reply to fuziwuzi
Re: Ahh good ol hijack Won't help you if you are misidentified as a DMCA violator. What if someone clones the MAC address of your cable modem or Comcast does not get their dates straight and you are assigned an IP address used by a pirate. |
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 tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3
·Comcast
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Re: How to prove your guilty... They can't link an IP to a individual, but they can link the download to an IP, and the IP to a individual modem/account, so the IP you happened to use, happened to download illegally, it can be blocked.
If you want to be unblocked YOU (account owner) must call in, listen to TOS and agree to corrective action. |
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Re: So extortion racket by the **AA & ISPs? said by SunnyD:$35 "fee" to just contest an allegation of infringement and get your service back to "normal"?
This won't get abused. Ever!
They make AT&T and Verizon overpriced LTE plans look good as an alternative with "rules" like that. |
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Re: Locked up in a walled garden. said by Mr Matt:And go where for internet access?
Many place have multiple ISP available. |
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Re: How to prove your guilty... And this is AFTER 6 strikes. At least that is my understanding. So if the information is erroneous, you will not be blocked unless the same error happens six times. I know I would call in on the first or second notice if I hadn't downloaded anything illegally, but I imagine there are others who might wait until they get the browser hijack.
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tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 | And this warns the account holder, if it is a result of his kids downloading, or open Wi-Fi, some other extremely rare error, something unlikely to happen 6 times to any one account. |
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