| what other nations offer 1gb to house right now for cheap? I know one city in the world that does that, its Hong Kong in SAR of China, PCCW offering speed from 300mb up to 1GB. But the cost of living space is there very high, consumer products cost more there than in states. Gasoline cost more also. |
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join:2000-12-07
The O.C.
kudos:1 | will not be the sweet spot very long Sony just said they want to bring 4K streaming movies to the PS4 which will require 100GB or more per movie. granted no one has a 4k set but who knows in 3-5 years. |
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join:2002-07-22
Winterville, NC
kudos:2 | LoL These guys are starting to remind me of my childhood playground experiences. "Sure, I could jump that puddle, but I don't want to"
People drive around in cars every day that can go way over the max speed limits, and we sure don't see car makers saying they are going to make slower cars because no one needs to go as fast as they can go.
I am starting to think, they don't want to offer these higher speeds, because it would affect their whole pricing structure.
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| Yeah, I passed grey-haired vette drivers, and get passed by non-grey haired Prius drivers!
And Verizon, even at 50Mbps, You-tube sucks. 
But hey, I'm moving from 25Mbps to 50Mbps for $10 more... I mean, 25Mbps for $10...
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| No demand today .. especially in this economy... and the likely asking price for that kind of bandwidth if they did offer it.
But if it has Verizon and Time Warner talking shit about it, there must be some consumer uptake that they're worried about. |
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| Limited Need There is a limited need for a 1 gig connection to the home today. But as cloud storage becomes more widely used and accepted a 1 gig connection will be required.
For cloud storage to work the way it's suppose to and the way people would like to use it, a 1 gig connection is really needed. Even 100 Mbps isn't fast enough with the size of files today you still many seconds for high quality images to open. |
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gatorkramNeed for SpeedPremium
join:2002-07-22
Winterville, NC
kudos:2 | reply to Network Guy
Re: No demand today said by Network Guy:.. especially in this economy... and the likely asking price for that kind of bandwidth if they did offer it.
But if it has Verizon and Time Warner talking shit about it, there must be some consumer uptake that they're worried about.
The thing is, they don't need to charge higher prices for higher speeds, they just want us to believe that's the way it has to be.
Like I said in my other post, if they did roll out higher speeds, it would really make their current pricing scheme difficult to maintain.
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| Need for speed (or, driving on unpaved roads) I recently upgraded from 25/25 to 75/35 and have found that I rarely saturate my pipe. So far, Microsoft downloads and Steam are the only places I can consistently fill the 75mbs download stream. I can understand the business logic behind not offering faster speeds at a lower price if most sites can't deliver those speeds.
If tomorrow VZ offered 1gbs FIOS at $70 to match Google, and also offered their lowest tier of 15/5 at $30, I bet 99% of their customers would select the 15/5 tier at $30. I have even seen a few messages in the FIOS forum indicating that some 70-80% or so of current customers only have 15/5 speeds. All this bitching and moaning about the need for 1gbs speeds seems to come mostly from people who just want the fastest car on the block, even if they can't drive that fast. |
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Re: No demand today There is infrastructure to maintain and expand if need be. There is a bottom line that needs to be met. It's not like they can offer service out of thin air. Wholesale bandwidth costs may be declining, but gear still costs money, and a lot. And considering that FiOS is maybe six years old at most, I'd say Verizon is still paying off that bill to make it happen.
But yea. This is consumerism at it's best. Competition determines demand, and demand determines pricing. |
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Re: LoL Not sure how it will play out with Google fiber, but there is also the risk that a "too fast" connection could be shared over wifi by several households. 1 subscription could provide excellent speeds to 10-20 houses |
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 elios
join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO | reply to killerbobjr
Re: Need for speed (or, driving on unpaved roads) um who says you have to fill it from one place at a time?
we have 3 people in the house
we could all easily pull 20Mbps at the same time form different sites |
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I have the 75/25 plan also, but will be moving soon and will be dropping to the 50/25 plan. Yes I don't think I've ever fully used what I have now but it is nice to know I have room to grow into it.
But, if they did offer 1gbs plan at $70 I would upgrade, why not, I'm already paying that much now and can afford it so why not. I've had on TWC a much slower plan and absolutely hated it. I don't think I could get by with 15/5. |
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 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | They're right Give people a choice between $70 1 Gbps or $40 25 Mbps. Most people will take the 25 Mbps speed. Unless you're wanting to supply your block or apartment building with free internet for everyone 1 Gbps isn't needed as this point. |
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navyson
join:2011-07-15
Upper Marlboro, MD | How the hell is it great if I can't watch youtube. Even 240p can't play on my 50 mbps FIOS connection |
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Re: Need for speed (or, driving on unpaved roads) Because wanting to pay more for less like you is so much more logical. |
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| More Upload Please I consider myself a power user, just like everyone else reading this news reel / blog. I'm completely content with my 25 mbps download speed. But I could really use more than 4 mbps upload. It took a month to upload all of my music to Google Music, and my pictures and video to CrashPlan. |
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elios
join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO | if there was a "sweet spot" it would be more like 100/100 then 50Mbps
the thing is once you have the network to support 100/100 then you might as well make it 1Gbps since its trivial at that point |
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join:2003-07-06
Hampton Bays, NY
kudos:7 | sure VZ may be in a position to offer 1GB speeds, if you are willing to pay a very steep price for it. |
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Re: How the hell is it great if Before, I was unable to play Youtube vidoes as well until I selected the html5 trial. It really helped me. Now I can play 1010p videos. But not all vidoes work under html5 |
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 kontosxyzzy
join:2001-10-04
West Henrietta, NY | reply to Wilsdom
Re: LoL said by Wilsdom:Not sure how it will play out with Google fiber, but there is also the risk that a "too fast" connection could be shared over wifi by several households. 1 subscription could provide excellent speeds to 10-20 houses
which is why you would want to offer it at a price point that is low enough to make sharing unnecessary. a 'budget' tier would make sharing even more unnecessary. kinda like how google is doing it. 
The real question is if Google can operate a network with those speeds and at least break even at that price-point. I'm skeptical, but Google has said that they want to prove it can be done. |
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