 | | what other nations offer 1gb to house right now for cheap? I know one city in the world that does that, its Hong Kong in SAR of China, PCCW offering speed from 300mb up to 1GB. But the cost of living space is there very high, consumer products cost more there than in states. Gasoline cost more also. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: what other nations offer 1gb to house right now for cheap? will not be the sweet spot very long Sony just said they want to bring 4K streaming movies to the PS4 which will require 100GB or more per movie. granted no one has a 4k set but who knows in 3-5 years. | |
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Vancouver, BC | Re: what other nations offer 1gb to house right now for cheap? In the lab broadcast 4kTVp50 (H.264) uses approximately 16.5~20 Mbit/s, so nowhere near the amounts quoted above. I would suspect delivery of anywhere from between 15~20GB for a 2 hour video.
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20 Mbps won't even be enough to deliver proper 4K video with H.265.
Why even bother with 4K if you're not going to do it right? | |
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kudos:1 | Re: what other nations offer 1gb to house right now for cheap? 16-20Mbps is MORE than enough for 1080p24, only someone who doesn't know how to use video compression software would hide their inability with bloated bitrates. | |
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EARTH | Re: what other nations offer 1gb to house right now for cheap? Yup, I have. Compression artifacts on cable are a lot worse than the low bitrates visually. iTunes is about 5.5 mbps with 1080p/24 (which looks really odd on TV shows), and it looks pretty good. | |
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If 1Gb/1Gb connections are available at the Hong Kong price or even much higher @ Google price, $70, sign me up.
Verizon/TWX have no sense, no rights to decide what speed should be good for consumers. Even Verizon's Mbps price is so expensive, there are demands but not at that super high price tag.
Too many people are saying we don't need that speed, that's you. "We don't need that speed" doesn't means I can't sign it up and leave it there at affordable price.
It's like saying I don't need to travel to overseas or space then urge everyone not to try it.
We need 1Gb connections at affordable price, Verizon. | |
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| Re: what other nations offer 1gb to house right now for cheap? said by ocjosh :It's like saying I don't need to travel to overseas or space then urge everyone not to try it.
We need 1Gb connections at affordable price, Verizon.
Thats not even logical comparision. Who compares broadband speeds to travel? That sounds like addiction to Internet.
You go to travel overseas to see different landscape, culture, have a lifetime experience you'll remember till the rest of the live.
20 mb, 100mb, 1gb for your personal connection, whats the difference, do you have a business? For now for an average consumer there are not yet any applications that take advantage of even 100mb connection. The advantage is you just get faster download and upload of large files. It enables to share connection with large household. But thats it. You are complaining about driving on 2 lane highway instead of 6 lane even though you're driving through a rural area.
I am not saying we shouldn't head in direction of getting 1gb connection for everyone. But not everyone needs 1gb at low price for NOW.
In addition Google can afford to afford 1GB at $70, partially because they get heavy subsidy from selling your data, making bucks on internet ads and limiting deployment to only one city (theoretically two split between states). | |
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| | | | | Re: what other nations offer 1gb to house right now for cheap? It's very logical.
If you already said that there is no application or anything a consumer not even need 100mb speed, you are making decision for consumer. You are limiting consumer from any other potential beyond 100mb or 1Gb speed. It's like saying please no 5G wireless development, there is no app for that speed yet.
Telling others that you don't need this, you don't need that.
That logic is what Verizon want us to know: pay more for older technology and slower speed because you don't need higher speed and pay me more anyway. | |
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join:2004-03-20
Albany, CA | Re: what other nations offer 1gb to house right now for cheap? Don't waste your breath ocjosh. People have been posting, "No one needs/no one will ever need *Mbps connection!" posts since this website first came online. Take a look at some of the archived posts and you will see some airheads saying we will never need the speeds that are SLOW today. Same shit, different day. | |
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EARTH | Re: what other nations offer 1gb to house right now for cheap? The question is, what's the application for it once we can stream 4k video? There's only so many hours in the day to consume video that's higher resolution than what our eyes can even see. | |
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And, I have Verizon and use Google sites, or site with Google related Ads, Verizon will prevent Google from collection data.
I see... It's logical. | |
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| Re: what other nations offer 1gb to house right now for cheap? [1] travel vs broadband
very illogical, even a 5th grader knows that.
[2] cost subsidy
No they simply make money from all people that go to their search engine or their other websites to subsidize their cost. Whether all people who sign up for google fiber, access their websites doesn't matter.
[3] need for high speed
Telcos are not limiting consumers from any other potential beyond 100mb or 1GB. Enterprise users who are willing to pay business rates can get any fiber Ethernet connection 100mb and above. There is just simply no high demand yet for 1GB connection at low residential prices for under $50. DSLReports users are minority of broadband customers.
Btw, do people in South Korea or Hong Kong who have fast 1GB connections, stream 30GB blue ray movies at full rate? If they have infrastructure in place already, why there are no applications to fully utilize it? And lets not forget, they did not have to replace old copper wired infrastructure and other factors that influence cost of doing business. No business itself for profit will be willing to operate at higher loss if it does not have to. Its simply not logical. Period. | |
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very illogical, even a 5th grader knows that.
[2] cost subsidy
No they simply make money from all people that go to their search engine or their other websites to subsidize their cost. Whether all people who sign up for google fiber, access their websites doesn't matter.
[3] need for high speed
Telcos are not limiting consumers from any other potential beyond 100mb or 1GB. Enterprise users who are willing to pay business rates can get any fiber Ethernet connection 100mb and above. There is just simply no high demand yet for 1GB connection at low residential prices for under $50. DSLReports users are minority of broadband customers.
Btw, do people in South Korea or Hong Kong who have fast 1GB connections, stream 30GB blue ray movies at full rate? If they have infrastructure in place already, why there are no applications to fully utilize it? And lets not forget, they did not have to replace old copper wired infrastructure and other factors that influence cost of doing business. No business itself for profit will be willing to operate at higher loss if it does not have to. Its simply not logical. Period.
To make the point here, you represent the general public (?) agree with, there is no need for cheaper & higher speed internet.
If it's 300 Mb or better speed and under $35 to make it affordable, available, most of users will sign up now. Whether we need the speed or not, the cost is the key.
Instead, this telco told public: you don't need it. It's like telling people don't explore outside the box for higher speed. Higher speed applications won't be necessary. It's egg or chicken first. (I.e. Don't explore outside where we are now, no need to travel even space, no other countries.) Bad example, but straight forward.
Cost subsidy case, it's up to users to use Google sites or not, not the ISP effect. You are saying Google fiber can only use Google sites. I can sign up but access other than Google sites, right? how does this subsidy case make sense?
Subsidy from Google? How about other ISPs in the world who sell lower than Google fiber with 100 mb 1Gb, they got cost subsidies from Google fiber too??
Sonic net planed to sell 1Gb for less, they got subsidy from Google. Is that what you mean?
Again, what I want to say is cost issue. Verizon Fiber is too expensive, not because we don't want to sign up. Even Verizon Fiber 15Mb/5Mb is selling @ $69.99/month for first 2 yrs. Verizon doesn't offer 1Gb yet, Verizon's 15/5 is selling at Goggle Fiber's 1G price.
My HOA fiber for our 600 homes community is 20/10 @ $30 a month. Most of us voted to sign up for that. Why? Price and speed point. | |
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| Re: what other nations offer 1gb to house right now for cheap? What point are you trying to get at? It's hard to judge how price sensitive people are. I think middle class and upper middle class people have no issue paying $50+/mo for a faster connection, while we have serious problems with the affordability of broadband in lower-income neighborhoods, and accessibility at all in rural areas.
Personally, I would pay up to about $70/mo for as fast as I could get for that price point, but I know people who won't even get cable, and stay on god-awful super-slow DSL because it's cheaper, and many of them are perfectly well able to afford cable. | |
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| Re: what other nations offer 1gb to house right now for cheap? I guess he is one of those people on earth who think they are entitled to get everything in life for free or cheap. I guess in this example, people don't understand fiber is expensive to deploy. I wonder if those people ever visit their doctor or lawyer. Or even pay for rent, car payments, student loans, because thats where big expenses from your salary go. And here some argue $70 a month for 1GB broadband is too much lol. | |
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Winterville, NC
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People drive around in cars every day that can go way over the max speed limits, and we sure don't see car makers saying they are going to make slower cars because no one needs to go as fast as they can go.
I am starting to think, they don't want to offer these higher speeds, because it would affect their whole pricing structure.
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| | | Re: LoL Yeah, I passed grey-haired vette drivers, and get passed by non-grey haired Prius drivers!
And Verizon, even at 50Mbps, You-tube sucks. 
But hey, I'm moving from 25Mbps to 50Mbps for $10 more... I mean, 25Mbps for $10...
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| | | | | Re: LoL YouTube sucks because Google is cheap on the bandwidth upgrades. Flash has nothing to do with it. When you're having to serve billions of views every month you start looking for ways to cut costs.
All the subscription XXX sites which use flash for streaming 1080p video at higher bitrates than YouTube have no problem delivering the goods.
What's the different between porn sites, Netflix, and YouTube?
You actually PAY for two of those things. | |
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| Re: LoL Yes, bandwidth is clearly Google's problem. 8-)
A Fortune 100 company that is currently sitting on forty plus billion dollars and whose entire business model revolves around the internet is being cheap with bandwidth upgrades. The same company that has data centers all over the world and essentially runs their own CDN. The same company that everybody on DSLR is going gaga over because of their 1gbit/s FTTH project.
FWIW I have no problems streaming HD YT videos under Linux, or using YT on my phone. Hell, I watched the entirety of all four Presidential debates on YT, via my cell phone, during a lengthy commute in 3G only areas. I rarely use Windows but I can't recall any issues there either. I suspect this has to do with buggy/outdated Flash installations and slow machines. | |
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New York, NY | Re: LoL Google's issue with YouTube on VZFios has been discussed extensively in the VerizonFios forums. The general consensus seems to be a problem on YouTube's end, with the majority of blame being on Google being cheap with the peering agreements. It doesn't matter how much money you make with one product, if another one is free (and isn't generating the revenue it's supposed to), you WILL cheap out on it. Notice they cheaped out & put up a fight on the GoogleFiber TV lineup as well? And the countless discontinued/failed Google products? Google Wave, Google Health, etc? | |
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Tulsa, OK | Re: LoL And the majority of the blame would be wrong.
Cheapness on peering, Google is not. Google has been very aggressive in peering and placing of local caching servers at ISP's.
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New York, NY | Re: LoL said by KrK:And the majority of the blame would be wrong.
Cheapness on peering, Google is not. Google has been very aggressive in peering and placing of local caching servers at ISP's.
Interesting, do you have an insider source @Google for this specific problem with VZ & Youtube? I didn't want to single anyone out, but the peering suggestion came from a veteran VZ employee (Dave). It's all in the thread. | |
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But if it has Verizon and Time Warner talking shit about it, there must be some consumer uptake that they're worried about. | |
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join:2002-07-22
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kudos:2 | Re: No demand today said by Network Guy:.. especially in this economy... and the likely asking price for that kind of bandwidth if they did offer it.
But if it has Verizon and Time Warner talking shit about it, there must be some consumer uptake that they're worried about.
The thing is, they don't need to charge higher prices for higher speeds, they just want us to believe that's the way it has to be.
Like I said in my other post, if they did roll out higher speeds, it would really make their current pricing scheme difficult to maintain.
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| Re: No demand today There is infrastructure to maintain and expand if need be. There is a bottom line that needs to be met. It's not like they can offer service out of thin air. Wholesale bandwidth costs may be declining, but gear still costs money, and a lot. And considering that FiOS is maybe six years old at most, I'd say Verizon is still paying off that bill to make it happen.
But yea. This is consumerism at it's best. Competition determines demand, and demand determines pricing. | |
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| | Limited Need There is a limited need for a 1 gig connection to the home today. But as cloud storage becomes more widely used and accepted a 1 gig connection will be required.
For cloud storage to work the way it's suppose to and the way people would like to use it, a 1 gig connection is really needed. Even 100 Mbps isn't fast enough with the size of files today you still many seconds for high quality images to open. | |
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Capacity really isn't a problem today with good web hosts. | |
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| | Need for speed (or, driving on unpaved roads) I recently upgraded from 25/25 to 75/35 and have found that I rarely saturate my pipe. So far, Microsoft downloads and Steam are the only places I can consistently fill the 75mbs download stream. I can understand the business logic behind not offering faster speeds at a lower price if most sites can't deliver those speeds.
If tomorrow VZ offered 1gbs FIOS at $70 to match Google, and also offered their lowest tier of 15/5 at $30, I bet 99% of their customers would select the 15/5 tier at $30. I have even seen a few messages in the FIOS forum indicating that some 70-80% or so of current customers only have 15/5 speeds. All this bitching and moaning about the need for 1gbs speeds seems to come mostly from people who just want the fastest car on the block, even if they can't drive that fast. | |
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Camden, TN | They're right Give people a choice between $70 1 Gbps or $40 25 Mbps. Most people will take the 25 Mbps speed. Unless you're wanting to supply your block or apartment building with free internet for everyone 1 Gbps isn't needed as this point. | |
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| Re: They're right said by BF69:Give people a choice between $70 1 Gbps or $40 25 Mbps. Most people will take the 25 Mbps speed.
Ill agree 1Gbps is not need for residential use currently however if 50 mbps is the "sweet spot" why are they still ( and ATT) so hesitant on rolling out fiber to supply that sweelt spot and replace basic copper DSL lines which only max out @ 6mbps.
Google 1 GB for $70 a month is a great (incredible ) deal but Id happily pay AT& sucky T or Verizon $70 for 50 mbps ( not even 1/10 of what google is offering) if they rolled out fiber or even cable to me, yes Id pay $70 for 50 mpbs unlimited Vs now paying ATT $35 for only 3 mbps and Im caped at 150 GB! By Verizons own admission 6 mbps is slow as molasses as 50 is the current sweet spot as they claim. | |
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El Paso, TX | said by BF69:Give people a choice between $70 1 Gbps or $40 25 Mbps. Most people will take the 25 Mbps speed. Unless you're wanting to supply your block or apartment building with free internet for everyone 1 Gbps isn't needed as this point.
For those kind of people google has an even better deal that you fail to mention, you know the FREE one. | |
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join:2011-07-15
Upper Marlboro, MD | How the hell is it great if I can't watch youtube. Even 240p can't play on my 50 mbps FIOS connection | |
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| | | Re: How the hell is it great if Before, I was unable to play Youtube vidoes as well until I selected the html5 trial. It really helped me. Now I can play 1010p videos. But not all vidoes work under html5 | |
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|  tshirtPremium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:3 | That's a poor quality connection (for whatever reason) not too low a speed tier (if it was as advertised)
given the same connection problem, I doubt 1 gig would be better. | |
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| | More Upload Please I consider myself a power user, just like everyone else reading this news reel / blog. I'm completely content with my 25 mbps download speed. But I could really use more than 4 mbps upload. It took a month to upload all of my music to Google Music, and my pictures and video to CrashPlan. | |
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join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO | Re: More Upload Please if there was a "sweet spot" it would be more like 100/100 then 50Mbps
the thing is once you have the network to support 100/100 then you might as well make it 1Gbps since its trivial at that point | |
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| |  Chris 313Come get somePremium
join:2004-07-18
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| Re: More Upload Please said by elios:if there was a "sweet spot" it would be more like 100/100 then 50Mbps
the thing is once you have the network to support 100/100 then you might as well make it 1Gbps since its trivial at that point
Yes, I agree. 100/100 should be the "sweet spot" Though, 50 is nothing to sneeze at, being sucked by multiple users/devices can really suck it up fast and slow things down.
In 2013, 50 should be standard, 100 should be next and 300-1G be the top. I would pay 70-100 for those speeds.
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join:2003-07-06
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kudos:7 | sure VZ may be in a position to offer 1GB speeds, if you are willing to pay a very steep price for it. | |
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join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO | Re: sure only do lack of people to compete with them
if Google Fiber had moved in to place with FiOS it would of been a real fight
the FiOS network would only minor upgrades to boost speeds to 1Gbps | |
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| | It's all about the good old buck As a work from home-office IT support person, I would happily pay $127/month for 1Gb/1Gb service. Hell, that's what I'm paying right now for my Comcast 27/7 service with 5 IP's.
1Gb/1Gb service between locations 30 miles away (the further the better really), even if it had to be with the same provider would be fabulous and used by me EVERYDAY. It would provide geographically disperse data backups, or even the ability to have a live replicas of servers, etc. Accomplishing something like this is one of the biggest IT challanges for small business today. It's a no glory aspect of the job that nobody wants, and therefore the reason why many small businesses fail after an event such as a fire.
Once Verizon places fiber, upping it from 100 to 300 to 500 to 1 Gb doesn't cost them much in bandwidth costs, especially if the data stays on their network. I do believe all these companies are delaying bandwidth increases in order to milk every penny they can out of their networks. Double the speeds today and tomorrow, you've got nothing to offer the next day. They wouldn't know what to do on the third day when customers where then asking for more. Right now, when they bump the speeds up a couple of Mbps for "free", everyone is jumping for joy. They are the heros of the day.
I understand companies have to make money, but if you have the monopoly or exclusive franchise in the area, then your profits should be kept to a fair and reasonable rate, with excesses returned to customers in rate reductions. And yes, in my opinion, if a cable TV company has an exclusive cable franchise in a city, they have an inherent advantage to being able to offer Internet, their facilities are mostly already built for them. | |
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Services that need high bandwidth are not deployed because the capacity is not deployed. Capacity is not deployed because there are not services to utilize it.
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join:2004-02-17
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| FIOS 50/50 is enough atm I agree, I had FIOS for that last 4 years before moving out of market. Once I they bumped us to 25/25 it was wonderful and rarely any chokepoints. Then they bumped us to 50/50 it was just spectacular and I was running tons of data and video thru the system. I just wish that TWC and the other markets follow FIOS example. People really dont care if prices go up if the product works like a dream. I know I didnt mind at all. | |
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| | | Re: FIOS 50/50 is enough atm No it ain't. My 150/65 Mbps line is constantly saturated. | |
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| Re: FIOS 50/50 is enough atm That makes you one of three things: (1 a braggart trolling for responses 2) a poor network engineer 3) the 1% if users who use a majority of the data in the network that companies use to justify greater limits and price increases.
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|  ilikemeI live in a van down by the river.Premium
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Milford, CT | No demand... There's no demand for faster speeds at the prices the ISPs want to sell it for. | |
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join:2008-11-11
Sanger, TX | Re: No demand... ^ This is the reason they believe "no one needs it". Offer 1gbps for the same prices as majority of us are already paying and see how many people sign up for it. | |
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Springfield, MA | I agree with Verizon 50/10 is more than adequate for normal residential use. | |
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join:2001-08-27
Palmdale, CA | More upload would sure be Handy! Back in 2004, I was happy with a 768kbps upload on DSL. Now I have a 5Mbps upload on Time Warner cable, and would still want a bit more. I do back up large data files off site, and to me that's what would make me the happiest, having a more symmetrical upload to download ratio, but of course that'll never ever ever happen I don't think. But if I can at least see time warner offering 10Mbps upstream, I'll be cool with that for now. In fact, I wonder why AT&T U-verse isn't going above 3 megs upload? I know bell in Canada has 10 megabits upload, and correct me if I'm wrong, but they use the same VDSL technology. If only I knew how much it really costs to offer a 100mbps or even 10mbps symmetrical connection. I love it when I go to my local college, as it's the only location where I can experience a high speed symmetrical link to the internet, and it happens to be 100mbps. | |
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| | | Re: How about current speeds for a cheaper price? Then they wouldn't be having 97% margins and laughing all the way to the bank silly... | |
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join:2001-08-31
Byron, GA | pure BS This is Pure BS on Verizons part no one wants it really so if i call your sales department up you will run the line?
People in this Area would JUMP on your Techs running Fiber lines in this area who will be the first to get 1 gig......
or even 150/65 for $91
WOW what liars.....
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| $ At $1 or less per megabit or less, sure.. at $2+ per megabit and forced bundling terms.. hell no..
If it were such a sweet spot, 50 megabits would be entry level by now.. but since the rest of the market isn't upgraded or competitive where it is.. why do better?
Without telecom (broadband) reforms on the federal level overturning state laws you will not have 21st century broadband in much of the country for most people's lifetime. If you value broadband the way many people do on this forum, there's not much incentive to live there, pay taxes, raise a family, etc. | |
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| Re: . Plenty of 10 year old computers in use still w/ 100mbit ethernet and B/G wireless routers. The point is we should have 1gbit available for residential subscription and not be around $700 some low multiple of Google's $70 would do.. for starters and make the lower speed tiers dirt cheap. I could see tiers such as 50, 100, 150, 300, 1gb becoming popular if the price points were reasonable maybe 1/2 a gbit for $10 less as if you have gigabit equipment most speed tests won't ever exceed 1gigabit, so no fluff for you. You'd need 10 gigabit ethernet which is STILL crazily expensive (PCI-E 3 cards coming in over $200) and 10-gigE routers (smart switches) at nearly double that. That equipment (commercial grade) is RIPE for a price cut-- been too high for far too long! | |
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