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Comments on news posted 2013-03-06 14:34:37: Wireless upstart FreedomPop today announced that the company has officially entered the home broadband market with a new service that provides up to 1GB of usage, for free. ..

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Duramax08
To The Moon
Premium
join:2008-08-03
San Antonio, TX

hmmmm

very tempting...


RWSI

join:2012-11-27
Albuquerque, NM

Overloading

It won't take much from a nearby neighborhood setup and use the devices to overload
the cell site it's coming from.

LTE or 3G has limits too.

By the way if you have weak signal or no signal it may not benefit the user.

Automate

join:2001-06-26
Atlanta, GA

Does it support LTE?

Will this device support LTE when Clearwire makes it available or will you have to purchase another modem?


whfsdude
Premium
join:2003-04-05
Washington, DC
Reviews:
·Comcast
said by Automate:

Will this device support LTE when Clearwire makes it available or will you have to purchase another modem?

You will have to purchase a modem.

bn1221

join:2009-04-29
Cortland, NY

define median

I truly doubt 5.5 GB. Even checking FB every other day and playing a flash game or two would set you over that limit.

IanR

join:2001-03-22
Fort Mill, SC

Not exactly free

Beware. I have the prior unit and the regularly hit my credit card with a $6.95 monthly fee even if I do not use the devise....


AlphaOne
I see
Premium
join:2004-02-21
reply to Duramax08

Freedom Spot

The Freedom Spot looks delish.
Great for iPads, etc., if there's no Wifi available.

The question is ... if service is also widely available.

en103

join:2011-05-02
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable
quote:
The FreedomPop Hub Burst modem and router supports up to ten devices and connects them all to the Clearwire WiMax network
I'd say not widely available. I live 5 miles from Los Angeles city limits, and there's no WiMax here, or even in the north 1/2 of the San Fernando Valley


Probitas

@teksavvy.com

pricing

Makes the 34.99 CAN and taxes I pay monthly for 6mb/s download and 300GB usage seem cheap, even at such a low speed. I ought to stop complaining.


Eddy120876

join:2009-02-16
Bronx, NY

can't wait for the ipad solution

I mean "5 GB for $35" is one heck of a deal none of the big telcos


TriedIn02888

@cox.net

Minor Annoyance

The prices on their mobile offering were too high IMO since I can legally tether/hotspot with TMO for a modest daily fee. But I kicked the tires of their 500MB offering anyway and was pleasantly surprised how well it worked (and it supported Linux out of the box with no black magic). I was not happy seeing $1 to $2 monthly charges when the device was sitting in the drawer for months. Seems like once I exceeded my free threshold they wanted to top me off every month, even if the device had not even been used. Rather than quibble I returned the device for a refund.


tshirt
Premium
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
kudos:5
reply to bn1221

Re: define median

You'd be surprised how many people are perfectly happy living without FB or flash games.

axus

join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC
Reviews:
·Comcast

Seems like the next NetZero

There was a short period where you could have free dialup internet from a few different companies; I guess this is something we'll see more of when "white space" broadband is available.

I don't expect a company offering free service to stick around, though; how much money are they paying Clearwire, and how are they going to make it back?

Crookshanks

join:2008-02-04
Binghamton, NY
reply to bn1221

Re: define median

said by bn1221:

I truly doubt 5.5 GB. Even checking FB every other day and playing a flash game or two would set you over that limit.

Every other day? It does not consume 300+MB of data to check Facebook. If you discount Netflix and Pandora my average daily usage on the landline is around 200MB, and that's including the occasional big download.

bemis

join:2008-07-18
Reading, MA

coverage maps

It would be lovely if they would show you a coverage map without asking for your email, then your street address, then asking you for a credit card number--all without showing you a coverage map or giving any real details about speeds.

Chubbysumo

join:2009-12-01
Superior, WI
reply to en103

Re: Freedom Spot

we had wimax from clearwire up here where I live, but then they shuttered the service and shut down the towers, so, no wimax here. Also, i don't think im in their "median" figures, since I use 500+GB per month with only me and my wife.

pkorx8

join:2003-06-19
San Francisco, CA

Clearwire's coverage map

Use clearwire.com coverage map.
Everyone who is on Wimax in this country is on Clearwire's network.

Chubbysumo

join:2009-12-01
Superior, WI
Reviews:
·Charter
reply to Crookshanks

Re: define median

said by Crookshanks:

Every other day? It does not consume 300+MB of data to check Facebook. If you discount Netflix and Pandora my average daily usage on the landline is around 200MB, and that's including the occasional big download.

actually, Facebook has made some huge increases over the last year on how much data it loads onto your system at first, and then count in if you scroll down any. It initially loads about 3MB on my system, and then if I scroll down about 5 pages worth, its an additional 10-15MB. If you just checked facebook, 10 times, thats 300MB. Websites are getting huge, and ads also take up a chunk of data too. Remember, its a median not an average. A median is the middle number of all your data points that separates the higher half from the lower half. This means that there are significantly fewer heavy users in their data(or they cut some out) than there are light users, which means that light users get a bias. I think its junk numbers unless they post the data they used anyways, since I can attest that just checking facebook and email, along with general web browsing can run upwards of 15GB a month for a household of 2.

pkorx8

join:2003-06-19
San Francisco, CA

Freedom Pop's version of throttle and cap

I'm on freedom pop's USB stick 2GB plan. I also have post-paid sprint with the HTC EVO 4G.
Both of these are on the same Clearwire Wimax network. But my freedom connection will only max out at ~5mbps down, whereas the sprint connection will seee ~10mbps down. This test was conducted at the same location, with the highest bars on both devices.

Freedom pop does have an option to pay $3 month for "faster speeds". I haven't tried it yet, but I think thats the "unthrottled" version. I'm a bit annoyed as they do advertise their normal service as unthrottled.

In regards to caps, freedom pop does not have cap per se. They have your credit on file and if you exceed the monthly allotment they will just charge overage. So this is different from the old "unlimited" clearwire accounts.

As for freedom pop's "click-thru, earn GB" scheme, it consists of installing spam and other malicious programs on your computer from "sponsors". It turns your computer into a ridiculously useless spam-bot. I wonder how long it takes freedom pop to realize this ad model ain't gonna work.

Crookshanks

join:2008-02-04
Binghamton, NY

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reply to Chubbysumo

Re: define median

The GP didn't say checking FB ten times, he said checking it "every other day". The number I provided is real, I work in IT, and I've track every bit of data that passes across my pipe. The average usage (discounting Pandora and Netflix, which may be a cop-out, but there it is) is really right around 200MB. Some days I don't use the internet at all, other days I might bring home a laptop to work on and download 600MB of software updates.

Even with Pandora it's not that bad. IP Video is the real killer. Over the summer when we had better things to do than watch TV our total monthly count was always under 10GB, and that's for a household of two young people, one in IT, the other a fairly tech savvy teacher with a dawn to dusk Facebook addiction.

Would I willingly purchase a capped connection? No way in hell. I hold onto my unlimited cellular data plan for dear life even though I rarely exceed 1GB. I pay for a commercial internet account in part because of a 250GB cap on residential service, even though I have never exceeded that, or even come close to it (my record is 187GB). It's part principle, part peace of mind.

None of that means that there aren't lots of people who could save money from this service. Just checked their webpage, $18.99 for 8mbit/s and a 10GB cap. $14.99 for 3mbit/s and 10GB cap. $9.99 for 1.5mbit/s and a 10GB cap. How are you going to compete with those prices if those speeds and 10GB cap are ample for your needs?

Crookshanks

join:2008-02-04
Binghamton, NY
reply to bemis

Re: coverage maps

Click for full size
FreedomPop
This is what I got when I clicked past the "We have no service at your address, but click here to sign up anyway...." box. Not sure why anyone would do that, but at least I got to see the plans!

cramer
Premium
join:2007-04-10
Raleigh, NC
kudos:9
reply to IanR

Re: Not exactly free

It's $0.99 in any month where you don't use at least 5MB. I wouldn't say they're really up-front about it, but it's is documented in plain sight.

cramer
Premium
join:2007-04-10
Raleigh, NC
kudos:9
reply to bemis

Re: coverage maps

Umm, it's CLEARWIRE. Go look at the clearwire coverage maps. This is top secret, or even difficult.

(Translation: the coverage is complete shit. Anywhere it'll work, you'll have much better options -- and sometimes for free (i.e. open wifi.) It's nice for "on the road", but their coverage is so spotty, it won't stay connected just driving across the city.)

cramer
Premium
join:2007-04-10
Raleigh, NC
kudos:9
reply to pkorx8

Re: Freedom Pop's version of throttle and cap

As long as people are willing to whore themselves out for "free" bits, then it does, indeed, work. There are a few partner ads that don't require installing anything, or buying anything, but the payout is next to nothing.

(If you're going to milk that cow, use a throw-away VM)

elray

join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable
·EarthLink

Low caps, High overages?

$10/GB on the "free" 1GB plan, $5/GB on the paid 10GB plans.

While I consider the usage rates to be competitive (assuming the service works as advertised) they are "steep" by definition.

Is Karl asleep at the switch?
Why does FP get a pass from the usual barbs?

BiggA

join:2005-11-23
EARTH
reply to bn1221

Re: define median

Yeah, that's a little suspect. I use like 150GB average, and I'm one user. Granted, I use more than a "normal" user, but with Netflix and Steam, among others, that seems way too low.

bemis

join:2008-07-18
Reading, MA
Reviews:
·Comcast
reply to cramer

Re: coverage maps

said by cramer:

Umm, it's CLEARWIRE. Go look at the clearwire coverage maps. This is top secret, or even difficult

I'm a consumer.

So I don't know what CLEARWIRE vs. WiMAX vs. LTE vs. EVDO vs. HSPA+ is. In fact, thanks to marketing spin the only thing I really know is that 4G is one more 'G' than 3G and that makes it faster (BTW I have no idea about ping, latency, etc, either... I just know more "mbps" is better, but I don't really know what an "mbps" is).

The point is I want to see a freaking map that says where they have coverage. If they can't do that without first selling me a plan then I know they are FoS.


TA1

@pnap.net

It is a scam

I pre ordered and was charged for the home unit back in December and as of today I have not received it. They have removed their contact phone number from their website. I had called them in late Jan and was told it would ship early Feb. I called in early Feb and was told it would ship in late Feb. Now the phone number is gone from their website. This is a scam, DO NOT order anything from this company.


88615298
Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness
reply to pkorx8

Re: Clearwire's coverage map

said by pkorx8:

Use clearwire.com coverage map.
Everyone who is on Wimax in this country is on Clearwire's network.

going to Clearwire's website an entering a zip code leads to a 404 page.
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