 skeechanAi OtsukaholicPremium
join:2012-01-26
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| Won't be a market for it Just like 3D never took off. No one is going to dump a working HDTV for 4K. It will be several years before 4K makes any kind of dent in the marketplace, especially given the lack of apparent visual improvement over 1080P in sets smaller than 50 or 60 inches. |
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 hitachi369Embrace Your RightsPremium
join:2001-10-03
Grand Rapids, MI
kudos:4 | There will be a market for it, its just about reducing the barriers and costs of entry. I have a 55'' 3D TV and I would be more than happy to get an even bigger 4k 3D TV at the right price point. |
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| caps? How fast is the average internet connection in this country again? And you think the biggest problem for 4K streams is caps? lol
Sure, 1.5 Mbps DSL could work, it might buffer for 5 hours or so... |
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skeechanAi OtsukaholicPremium
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| reply to hitachi369
Re: Won't be a market for it You would need the majority to do it to get a decent price point and it isn't going to happen. Consumers just got their HDTVs and the hardware lasts too long. Like other appliances, TVs aren't replaced until they break.
For many years 4K will be a niche that no one cares about just like 3D is. In 2023, perhaps, 2017, no way. |
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| Fix the buffering on Sat evenings first... ...and then worry about 4k, OK?
There has not been one single instance where I could watch a movie without pauses for buffering during weekend evenings, that while all my bandwidth tests show 15+M at the same time. |
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Re: caps? here @ LA, Cali I'm stucked with 3M DSL, can't even get 6M, for the longest time i thought 3M is fine, I just need to keep the computer on and let it download stuff.
Once I move to college apartment, here's got Gigabit internet, but most students don't know that because most of them only use laptop, hence limited by the wifi. I plug in the Cat5 cable and see gigbait, i thought "it's probably only the intranet speed, no way the WAN side is that fast", later i did a speedtest, i constantly clocked 600M+ speed both up and down, now this totally changed my internet behavior, ever since i ditched DSL and sign up for charter's 30M cable. There's a HUGE difference from 3 to 30, not sure after 50 or 100 though, probably diminishing return.
But yeah, 4K tv is the future for sure after 3D, these ISP need to lift the 250G cap though if they want to make streaming 4k tv possible. |
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Re: Fix the buffering on Sat evenings first... could it be an ISP thing? may be they prioritize certain thing, just wondering, not questioning your experience, because I don't experience any slowdown during weekend night. |
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| said by lemonade:could it be an ISP thing? may be they prioritize certain thing, just wondering, not questioning your experience, because I don't experience any slowdown during weekend night.
I doubt, because friends in the region having different ISPs are experiencing the same. 8-10PM EST on a Sat is buffering time... |
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Re: caps? it will be easily possible on Verizon fios, and google.. possibly some Comcast areas.. that being said more than half of the country cant get fast enough connections for this.. thus 4K will be delayed for at least another 10 years... but their is always blue ray to the rescue |
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Kamus
join:2011-01-27
El Paso, TX | reply to skeechan
Re: Won't be a market for it said by skeechan:Just like 3D never took off. No one is going to dump a working HDTV for 4K. It will be several years before 4K makes any kind of dent in the marketplace, especially given the lack of apparent visual improvement over 1080P in sets smaller than 50 or 60 inches.
Even if there isn't a market for it, it will be used.
The reason is simple:
Manufacturers will be able to do 4k TV's at the same price 1080p sets go for today in a very short time.
So it will get used simply because they can. |
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 CabalPremium
join:2007-01-21
Austin, TX | reply to cowboyro
Re: Fix the buffering on Sat evenings first... No problems here any day of the week. |
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| 4K I am just going to download the 4K movies just to waste bandwidth. Even though 4k is made for huge TV resolutions. |
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skeechanAi OtsukaholicPremium
join:2012-01-26
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| reply to Kamus
Re: Won't be a market for it They won't be able to do it until there is demand for it. There won't be demand for it because you need churn in the hardware. 4K will not be cheaper than 1080P just like 1080P still isn't cheaper than the 720P sets.
Eventually 4K will be popular but not for a very long time. |
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Re: Fix the buffering on Sat evenings first... same. |
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Could be the point of entry into the Internet or where its peered at or some place else. I have U-verse and have no problems at any time with NetFlix. |
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 IowaCowboyWant to go back to IowaPremium
join:2010-10-16
Springfield, MA
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| Caps are not an issue for me I subscribe to cable TV so caps are not an issue for me.
I'm watching the evening news while I'm writing this post. The DVR is nice as you can watch the shows on your schedule. I also fast forward commercials as well.
Sometimes I think of switching to DirecTV but it is cheaper to bundle TV, home phone, and Internet with Comcast.
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I've experienced ImOn (when they were McLeod USA), Mediacom, Comcast, and Time Warner. They are much better than broadcast TV.
I have not and will not cut the cord. |
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hitachi369Embrace Your RightsPremium
join:2001-10-03
Grand Rapids, MI
kudos:4 Reviews:
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| reply to skeechan
Re: Won't be a market for it said by skeechan:They won't be able to do it until there is demand for it. There won't be demand for it because you need churn in the hardware. 4K will not be cheaper than 1080P just like 1080P still isn't cheaper than the 720P sets.
Eventually 4K will be popular but not for a very long time.
You say 3D never took off yet many entries level TV's now come with it. If there is no demand, why are they so cheap? My father bought a 55'' 3D LG TV a week ago at 799, and that the normal price.
As far as no one replacing it if it isn’t broken, that maybe true for you, but I replaced my 46'' TV with a 55'' TV and the 46'' TV wasn’t broken.
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gutch
join:2003-01-16
Tamaqua, PA | How much usage? I have a lousy 100gb cap. |
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Re: Won't be a market for it LOL, look at the noob comparing 3d which always gets rebooted and NEVER takes off, to HD which basically replaced television viewing as we know it...
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 DominokatHiPremium
join:2002-08-06
Boothbay, ME
kudos:2 | I never heard of 4K What is is it?
I know of 3D, and Super HD but never heard of 4K until this was posted.
How is it different then 3D or Super HD? |
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