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| Too bad... T-Mobile has terrible coverage and basically no LTE service. Everyone I know around Los Angeles complains about dropped calls, texts that never go through, etc.
Whose going to pay $100 upfront then $20/month for 24 months for a phone? That's $580 just for the phone...Just because you break it up into a monthly payment doesn't mean you're getting a deal.
No thanks T-Mobile. |
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| T Mobile finally moving forward! 
doesn't LTE have better coverage then 3G or HSPA+ ? I am on Verizon and wasn't with T Mobile for very long time but people always tend to think MetroPcs is better then T-Mobile well this might be a gamechanger , someone correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks! |
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 monchisPremium
join:2002-12-09
Los Angeles, CA
kudos:1 | Great job t-mobile It'll be doomsday on april 12 though  Reason why att I feel sucks is because of their congestion. Data is so slow. And this is because 70 year olds can use iphones.
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Re: Too bad... OK -- stick with AT&T, get an iPhone for $200, and pay ~$45 per month more for a comparable data plan. Enjoy your $1300 iPhone. |
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monchisPremium
join:2002-12-09
Los Angeles, CA
kudos:1 | reply to motoracer
said by motoracer:T-Mobile has terrible coverage and basically no LTE service. Everyone I know around Los Angeles complains about dropped calls, texts that never go through, etc.
Whose going to pay $100 upfront then $20/month for 24 months for a phone? That's $580 just for the phone...Just because you break it up into a monthly payment doesn't mean you're getting a deal.
No thanks T-Mobile.
You are getting a deal because:
1) no contract
2) realistic - you know exactly what you're getting into
3) NO INTEREST charges
4) low priced plans
5) no contract
6)that is a great price for a new phone
For the record, I live in Los angeles, and t-mobile is the best here. So your comment on everyone you know can be disregarded because you're not speaking from your personal experience like I am. I've had verizon/sprint/att - terrible in LA.
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| reply to CSD8086
said by CSD8086:OK -- stick with AT&T, get an iPhone for $200, and pay ~$45 per month more for a comparable data plan. Enjoy your $1300 iPhone.
Firstly, why the hell would I get an iPhone?  Secondly, I'm paying $60/month for unlimited minutes/text and 2GB of data. |
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| reply to monchis
said by monchis:said by motoracer:T-Mobile has terrible coverage and basically no LTE service. Everyone I know around Los Angeles complains about dropped calls, texts that never go through, etc.
Whose going to pay $100 upfront then $20/month for 24 months for a phone? That's $580 just for the phone...Just because you break it up into a monthly payment doesn't mean you're getting a deal.
No thanks T-Mobile.
You are getting a deal because: 1) no contract 2) realistic - you know exactly what you're getting into 3) NO INTEREST charges 4) low priced plans 5) no contract 6)that is a great price for a new phone For the record, I live in Los angeles, and t-mobile is the best here. So your comment on everyone you know can be disregarded because you're not speaking from your personal experience like I am. I've had verizon/sprint/att - terrible in LA. Valid points. Help me understand the no contract deal though. You agree to pay for the phone over 2 years. So what happens if you leave T-Mobile after say 3 months? You're still on the hook to pay on your phone, right?
And for the record, my sister was able to get out of her T-Mobile contract after 6 months without paying the ETF. The representative said they've been having a lot of problems in the LA area and didn't blame her for leaving. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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| reply to patt2k
LTE, all else equal, will have marginally LOWER coverage than H+ (coverage is pretty much inversely proportional to speed). When comparing to TMo's AWS H+ deployment, all else really is equal, so don't expect to get LTE where you can't get 3G/HSPA+ right now.
As for MetroPCS, I can't think of anyone who would actually prefer them over T-Mobile from a tech standpoint, though MetroPCS is a bit cheaper, depending on the plan you get.
The only reason Verizon has good LTE coverage is they're using ~750MHz spectrum to broadcast it.Lower frequencies propagate better than higher ones, so, all else equal, you'll get LTE nearly as far from a site as you could get 850MHz cellular based 3G (EvDO), despite the marked increase in bandwidth (or rather efficiency; Verizon's LTE takes 8x the spectrum of a single EvDO channel, but is nearly 3x as efficient, in ideal circumstances). |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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| reply to monchis
Re: Great job t-mobile T-Mobile shouldn't be hit too hard; they actually do have a bit of a ghost-town network in many places, since they only have ~33 million customers to AT&T's ~100 million. And unlike Sprint, they'll have a pseudo-4G network (plus some LTE) in most places when the iPhone comes out.
That said, they'll need to continue making network upgrades to make sure that the iPhone doesn't crash things. |
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etaadmin
join:2002-01-17
Dallas, TX
kudos:1 | reply to monchis
said by monchis:It'll be doomsday on april 12 though Reason why att I feel sucks is because of their congestion. Data is so slow. And this is because 70 year olds can use iphones.
70 year olds are the only people that can afford iPhones. A lot of people I know work for low or minimum wage on a hourly basis and they tend to have the most expensive cellular plans and phones. |
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| my att plan benefits with FAN discount $65 ~ plan including taxes
- 450 minutes + rollover minutes
- 200 texts (dont need unlimited and most of mine goes through iMessage)
-2GB of data
- largest combined faux4g + 4g LTE network in nation
- combined billing discount for my u-verse service
I rarely get dropped calls or unusable data. No need for me to switch |
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| reply to motoracer
Re: Too bad... It's a no interest payment plan. ST was/is? doing it too. If you leave, you pay the remaining balance just like an ETF, except it's based upon real hardware not some imaginary take $10 off each month and when you have 1 month left on the contract the ETF is still $150.
I'd be shocked if they let her out of a contract for "bad coverage" and without an ETF. Maybe your house is in a known bad cell zone (I did have that problem w/ Verizon and they gave me a new phone while they slowly fixed the eHRPD issues), however I doubt EVERY customer in the LA basin is having that problem. Fox would be all over that
Also, you could pick up a Nexus 4 for half the price of an iphone, or a USED one. Imagine that, letting someone else pay the depreciation. I'm sorry, but that toy iphone is NOT worth $600. Even my iphone 4s is dubiously priced, and if you compare it to the Nexus 4 I would estimate it's worth $200 NEW not like the $500 they are suckering people into buying. When they come out with the ghetto iphone this year, I bet this $100 phone goes for $400.
I was trolling and you can get a 1 year HTC Amaze (supposedly a $500 phone) that is only 1 year old for under $200, but I instead paid the extra $100 and got the Nexus 4 and man it is an awesome phone. Battery life is marginal tho, just like the rest of the suspects. I also think it's resale value will hold up now like Samsung phones. |
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 RARPSL
join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY | reply to motoracer
said by motoracer:
Whose going to pay $100 upfront then $20/month for 24 months for a phone? That's $580 just for the phone...Just because you break it up into a monthly payment doesn't mean you're getting a deal.
That $580 figure is deceptive. That includes the cost of the phone but also interest that you are paying for the loan that T-Mobile is making you to pay off the phone cost. I do not know how much they would charge you if you wanted to buy it outright now but the equivalent figure should be much less than that $580 total payment. |
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| reply to motoracer
Depends on where you live, T-mobile is good around my area in NJ.
At $70 for unlimited talk/text and data and $20 for phone payment your paying $90 for unlimited everything. You won't get that price from Verizon or AT&T and you won't get that speed from Sprint.
Get a little smarter and buy your phone elsewhere, get a nexus at half the price or phones on sale on ebay and it's an even better deal |
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| Phoenix! Incredible, T-Mobile has LTE launched in Phoenix before Sprint. Will probably have Telus or Bell Mobile launch here before them too. |
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 djdanskaRudie32Premium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
MX
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| reply to monchis
Re: Too bad... said by monchis:said by motoracer:T-Mobile has terrible coverage and basically no LTE service. Everyone I know around Los Angeles complains about dropped calls, texts that never go through, etc.
Whose going to pay $100 upfront then $20/month for 24 months for a phone? That's $580 just for the phone...Just because you break it up into a monthly payment doesn't mean you're getting a deal.
No thanks T-Mobile.
You are getting a deal because: 1) no contract 2) realistic - you know exactly what you're getting into 3) NO INTEREST charges 4) low priced plans 5) no contract 6)that is a great price for a new phone For the record, I live in Los angeles, and t-mobile is the best here. So your comment on everyone you know can be disregarded because you're not speaking from your personal experience like I am. I've had verizon/sprint/att - terrible in LA. I live in San Diego and trek up to LA for stuff occasionally and had no problem up there at all. So, your right.
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| reply to iansltx
LTE is not equal to H+, like EDGE, etc... There are a number of differences in the air interfaces(OFDM)/MIMO and LTE has a much lower noise floor. On top of that newer cells bring the amplifiers closer to the cell which yields better symbol resolution. You should check this out -- asu and this:
»s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entr···-primer/
That blog discusses Sprint which is running on GHz freq just like Tmo will and outside most of the US lots of LTE countries.
I hear Sprint is going to try and run LTE or fixed on Clear spectrum which they have a crapload of it (over 150Mhz) and that is like 2.5 GHz. That will def require LTE-TD to work well, but technology always gets better.
We are entering a spectrum renaissance. All of these vacated 3G networks will be ripe for MVNO and cheap cell plans.
Now granted Verizon and ATT are sitting on spectrum that penetrates better and will allow them to be more picky, however that doesn't discount PCS/AWS-ish frequencies from running solid LTE. The question is how the refarm works and their upgrade path for EDGE cells. That will all require some shuffling until Vo-LTE takes hold for most of this decade.
When they more to LTE-Advanced you don't have to have dedicated download/upload channels. |
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 ilikemeI live in a van down by the river.Premium
join:2002-08-27
Denton, TX
kudos:1 | reply to chgo_man99
Re: my att plan benefits with FAN discount said by chgo_man99:I rarely get dropped calls or unusable data. No need for me to switch
Same here with AT&T and Verizon. Plus I still have unlimited data on my iPhone 5 on AT&T and have never been throttled. Can't say the same about T-Mobile, Sprint, and Ghettro POS. |
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| Hope I really hope this pays off for them in a big way. I desparately want simpler plans with no contract to take hold. This way when my current contract is up middle of next year I can take them for a test drive and see how they compete with my current carrier. |
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 tiger72SexaT duorPPremium
join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
kudos:1 | reply to motoracer
Re: Too bad... Then you are either comparing grandfathered/business discounted rate plans, or you already paid for your device. Either way, you should learn to compare apples to apples. |
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