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Comments on news posted 2013-04-04 09:20:35: Every so often we see a carrier get the bright idea to use modern network technology to inject their ads into website content -- and once publicized they become very short-lived affairs. ..

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Crookshanks

join:2008-02-04
Northeast PA

https....

.... there's a solution already in place for any web developer who is worried about their content being hijacked in this fashion.


wmcbrine
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Horrible thought:

What if people start to get tired of going after these bastards, and it becomes a reluctantly accepted practice, just by the ad-injectors wearing us down with their persistence? Like compassion fatigue -- call it "outrage fatigue", perhaps.
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kickass69

join:2002-06-03
Lake Hopatcong, NJ

There's always Adblock Plus to add whatever proxy servers and other ad based domains show up to block this bs.



Duramax08
Win8 sucks
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join:2008-08-03
San Antonio, TX

From a look on reddit, it doesnt seem to block it.
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ISurfTooMuch

join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL

reply to wmcbrine
Consumers may get worn down, but the companies whose Web sites get altered will simply sic the lawyers on these companies, and that will be the end of it. I think the only reason it hasn't happened yet is because angry consumers have swatted down previous ad-injection efforts before the lawyers could be mobilized.



imtim83
I hate those people so much
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join:2001-06-03
Kenner, LA

Ad Muncher ftw!

Ad Muncher to the rescue again!

dra6o0n

join:2011-08-15
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inb4 every corporate executives...

Begins to think it's a good idea to use criminal methods to make a buck or two, seeing how they do nothing but sit at their desks reading reports and paperwork, or twiddling their thumbs.

Then suddenly they got a 'bright' (stupid) idea and thinks he's the king of the world because nobody in the industry has ever done this before within the last 2 years (because they got in trouble for it).

Oh well...

C'mon, lets see some moar stupid ideas!


crazyk4952
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united state
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lawsuit time

Hopefully the will get sued and have to pay a huge amount of damages. We need one ISP to be used as an example so that none of the rest of them think that this is a good idea.


IowaCowboy
Want to go back to Iowa
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join:2010-10-16
Springfield, MA

VPN

I wonder if using a VPN would stop this.

TBusiness

join:2012-10-26
Toledo, OH
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reply to ISurfTooMuch

Re: Horrible thought:

And what law are these companies violating? Copright? NOPE! They are not changing anything of the code. Instead they can be pop-overs.

And as far as Marriott in NY doing this- private network; read the TOS if you don't agree, don't use it. The same with any ISP or company. People that fail to read are the ones always complaining when things happen.

TBusiness

join:2012-10-26
Toledo, OH

reply to dra6o0n

Re: inb4 every corporate executives...

how is this a criminal act???

TBusiness

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reply to crazyk4952

Re: lawsuit time

damages for what???? Can you cite a law that is being broken???? And you do realize that many ISPs have more money than you can dream of to keep things like this out of court. And don't ask the FCC to do anything for you. They're powerless as it is and do not control the Internet.

And you do realize that there is a clause in many ISPs's AUP/TOS that states you only lease their private network - which is an IntRAnet and not IntERnet. Meaning they can do what they wish with THEIR private network, they're only providing you access to the Internet at will??


humanfilth

join:2013-02-14

reply to TBusiness

Re: Horrible thought:

Did you know that car you rented is actually a Peugeot instead of a Maserati?

They still charged you the higher price for rental, but with that fancy Maserati sticker over all the Peugeot markings you never knew different.

Defacement of a website is a crime. Oh wait, thats just for the peons and not the corrupt corporations.


Gone
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reply to TBusiness

said by TBusiness:

And what law are these companies violating? Copright? NOPE! They are not changing anything of the code. Instead they can be pop-overs.

Oh how naive you are!

The owners of the websites could sue the provider for associating their products and services with another company that without their prior approval. Based on the image, an H&R Block ad is appearing on Apple's website. Apple could argue that someone may draw an association between the two by assuming that Apple endorses their product or services when no such endorsement actually exists. For this reason alone anyone doing this could be hauled into court, and a blanket subscriber TOS that attempts to hold harmless the ISP for doing this most likely wouldn't fly either.


crazyk4952
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reply to TBusiness

Re: lawsuit time

said by TBusiness:

damages for what???? Can you cite a law that is being broken???? And you do realize that many ISPs have more money than you can dream of to keep things like this out of court. And don't ask the FCC to do anything for you. They're powerless as it is and do not control the Internet.

And you do realize that there is a clause in many ISPs's AUP/TOS that states you only lease their private network - which is an IntRAnet and not IntERnet. Meaning they can do what they wish with THEIR private network, they're only providing you access to the Internet at will??

If I create content on MY website and someone else is putting ads on there are getting revenue from it, then that is a problem.


moldypickle

join:2009-01-04
Haughton, LA

...

When I left a CMA service area, they had just been bought out by a Canadian parent company... if they are still operating like that, would the FCC even have jurisdiction over them?


Probitas

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reply to TBusiness

Re: Horrible thought:

There are enough ads on the network without your ISP using up the bandwidth you pay for (they have NO right to use up your cap) and then ding you for overage later. That's unconscionable.

I doubt there is a way for them to get out of this without looking like ambulance chasing lawyers.


jimk
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join:2006-04-15
Raleigh, NC

reply to IowaCowboy

Re: VPN

It would, but the better solution (for those who have a choice in ISPs) is to immediately switch to another provider... and don't come back, even if they make a good retention offer.


jap
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reply to moldypickle

Re: ...

said by moldypickle:

would the FCC even have jurisdiction over them?

Sure. Laws & regulations apply by operating location not place of citizenship. Just like when you travel as an individual: laws where you physically are now is what applies.


Toymaster
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join:2001-12-27
Flint, MI

Add-Ons anyone...

And now you wonder why people run adblocker add-ons...:P

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