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Comments on news posted 2013-04-17 08:24:01: While we all lust over 1 Gbps connections most of us can't get, Sony-run Japanese ISP So-net Entertainment this week pushed the residential needle to 2 Gbps in Japan. ..

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woody7
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join:2000-10-13
Torrance, CA

all I can say

But we are the greatest power on Earth!......../
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Heh213

join:2012-06-16
Reviews:
·HughesNet Satell..

Installation Fee

The install fee looks a bit steep, pushes it up to the around $70/month zone if you factor it into the monthly costs. (Although I assume the fee is upfront)

Still beats my sat service


Kamus

join:2011-01-27
El Paso, TX

guaranteed bandwidth.

So, basically you can guarantee 1 gbps at any given time to two 1gig Ethernet ports (2 desktops at full speed, all the time!)

next step after this is obviously 10 gigs... hopefully by then desktops actually ship with 10gig Ethernet.


reply to woody7

Re: all I can say

(The FCC, Cable cos and Telcos loudly)

Alright people! Move along now! Nothing to see here!!!!


lemonade

join:2003-12-13
Los Angeles, CA

how?

so how do those PC get 2Gbps downstream? I thought Gigabit is gigabit...sorry being a noob on this.



ArrayList
netbus developer
Premium
join:2005-03-19
Brighton, MA
reply to Heh213

Re: Installation Fee

install fees can be worth it as long as the install is done right.


sunny8294
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reply to lemonade

Re: how?

10G nic



ArrayList
netbus developer
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Brighton, MA
reply to Kamus

Re: guaranteed bandwidth.

makes me wonder with the fastest bus speed in a typical computer is.



darkwish
Free Knight
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Virginia Beach, VA
reply to Heh213

Re: Installation Fee

The fees are waived if you order the service online.



Jim_in_VA

join:2004-07-11
Cobbs Creek, VA
kudos:4

the drawback is

you have to live in a 200 sq ft apartment ... maybe that's too generous, call it a sardine can--
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34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to lemonade

Re: how?

said by lemonade:

so how do those PC get 2Gbps downstream? I thought Gigabit is gigabit...sorry being a noob on this.

You can have two 1Gbpc NICs (or more) and combine them into one logical connection.

Gandalf4503

join:2002-06-27
Cohoes, NY

I can't wait

Until more and more people get 100 Mbps - 1 Gbps+ fiber connections, don't take proper security cautions, and join their fat pipes up with the fleets of botnets already out there in the wild.


silbaco
Premium
join:2009-08-03
USA

1 recommendation

Pointless

Can you even buy 10 Gigabit hardware needed for this on the residential level? Not that I am aware of.

This is purely marketing.


AlfredNewman

join:2010-03-25
Columbus, OH

1 recommendation

Good thing...

we live in the Unites States where the ISPs decided we obviously don't need such speeds.


InvalidError

join:2008-02-03
kudos:5

1 recommendation

reply to Kamus

Re: guaranteed bandwidth.

said by Kamus:

So, basically you can guarantee 1 gbps at any given time to two 1gig Ethernet ports (2 desktops at full speed, all the time!)

It isn't guaranteed. The deployment uses GPON which means the 2.488/1.244Gbps feed gets split between 8 or more subscribers. The OLT at the other end likely has something like 10:1 oversubscription so you are not likely to get more than maybe 300Mbps during peak hours.

Outside North America, it is quite common for networks to operate under congested regime during peak hours. Running networks that way is much cheaper than trying to stay ahead of instantaneous peak load.


IowaCowboy
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Japan vs United States

Japan is very urban and very thickly settled. The US has urban clusters with a lot of rural areas in between. Urban areas are very cheap to wire and yield a very quick ROI.

Rural areas are very costly to wire and will take very long to recoup the investment. 1 Gbps connections may be feasible in countries that are very thickly settled but America is very spread out and we have 1000 times the land mass of Korea and Japan. So the limitation in faster connections is distance. A cable company is not going to run coax to an area that is sparcely settled as it will take a long time to recoup the investment.

Another limiting factor is connecting the urban clusters to the network backbone (take for example the distance from Cedar Rapids IA to Des Moines) as you would have to upgrade the network backbone to support faster connections. Another example is the Dakotas where there are urban centers but a lot of rural areas between those clusters. And when you add distance, you add latency. So a data packet that travels from Springfield MA to Boston is not going to take as long as a packet from Grand Island NE to Fargo ND. Connection speed is one thing but latency can add up with distance. A good example to demonstrate this is do a few speed tests to a nearby server (faster and less latency) and to a far away server (slower and more latency).
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I have not and will not cut the cord.



CAST SUCKS

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reply to ArrayList

Re: guaranteed bandwidth.

pci-e gen 3 X16 slot?

QPI?

HTX?


clos000

join:2012-12-31
reply to IowaCowboy

Re: Japan vs United States

Guess LA, Chicago, and NYC and all the other big cities are not thickly settled...



IowaCowboy
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said by clos000:

Guess LA, Chicago, and NYC and all the other big cities are not thickly settled...

Many big cities have at least one decent option for broadband. Boston has Comcast and RCN, NYC has Time Warner and Cablevision, Chicago has Comcast and RCN. I live in Springfield, MA and I have a choice between DSL, Comcast, and various cellular options. I think LA has either Charter or Time Warner but I'm not sure on that one. Chances are if you can get cable television, you can get Internet.
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I have not and will not cut the cord.

InvalidError

join:2008-02-03
kudos:5
reply to ArrayList

Re: guaranteed bandwidth.

PCIe 3.0 is 8Gbps per lane each way. On a x16 GPU slot, that's 128Gbps both ways; enough to accommodate 100GbE. This slot is standard in most PCs using an i5-3xxx or i7-3xxx CPU.

Lower-end PCs using i5/i7-2xxx CPUs or Celeron/Pentium/i3 only have PCIe 2.x which limits their x16 bandwidth to 80Gbps.

USB3 can do up to 5Gbps, which is already more than twice as fast as this up-to-2Gbps service.

So, in terms of PC connectivity, 2Gbps is not particularly fast but it is twice as fast as the ubiquitous 1GbE NICs.


BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Wakefield, MA
reply to InvalidError

ahmm it's pretty common here in the us also. Every end user commercial service works like this.


pkorx8

join:2003-06-19
San Francisco, CA
reply to IowaCowboy

Re: Japan vs United States

And in the heart of silicon valley, the only choice is Comcast cable with Uverse being a distance second choice....
So I guess silicon valley and SF bay area is not thickly settled either.


TBBroadband

join:2012-10-26
Fremont, OH
reply to AlfredNewman

Re: Good thing...

I've said it before and so have others. This speed is available here. And it has been for YEARS! If you want it; pay for it.


silbaco
Premium
join:2009-08-03
USA
reply to IowaCowboy

Re: Japan vs United States

Iowa is actually ahead of many states in terms of deploying faster speeds to rural areas. NetINS has a pretty robust network for delivering internet to rural cooperatives and independent operators and their network covers much of the state. They provide internet services for probably close to 100 ISPs in Iowa.


TBBroadband

join:2012-10-26
Fremont, OH
reply to pkorx8

You should tell the oh mighty Google to build out there since it's basically home to them instead of trying to play Good Corp in other areas only to later sell/shut down their network. Basically like they did with their wireless network.



tshirt
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reply to clos000

Toyko has about 2.5 times the population of New York city, which is why a "large" 225 sq ft studio apt goes for $1500 a month. (parking, management fees, and key fees are among the extra$ ).
If you can find a room mate (hopefully someone you don't mind sleeping VERY close to) you might get a deluxe 450Sq ft with a window for $2700 and up.
San Francisco (in the city) has half the density and San Jose/Cupertino/ mountain view are practically uninhabited wildlands.
You CAN"T compare major city densities in first world asia to anywhere in the US.
IE Hong Kong (I know, a broadband mecca) has 10 times the density of LA


openbox9
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Germany
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reply to Cord Cutter

Re: all I can say

There really isn't. This is a marketing gimmick. How many have the equipment to remotely get close to leveraging 2 Gbps?


openbox9
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Germany
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reply to Jim_in_VA

Re: the drawback is

Everything is a trade off, but most people don't want to talk about that when we're discussing gbps for $50/mth.



skeechan
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reply to lemonade

Re: how?

According to the presentation that was given, you don't get 2Gb to a single device, there are 3 Gb ports plus 802.11n, so across all devices there is the potential of a total 2Gb throughput.
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skeechan
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reply to clos000

Re: Japan vs United States

Only thick in their city councils.
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