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Comments on news posted 2013-06-12 14:16:47: Speaking at the cable industry's NCTA trade show this week, Time Warner Cable admitted that the company pays certain broadcasters to keep their content off of the Internet, thereby securing traditional cable power over the TV industry. ..

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Space Elf
Mullica Hill, NJ

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reply to GlennAllen

Re: Seems a little shady

unfortunately that seems to be a forgotten concept in our government if you know who to lobby to as a company.
[65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports

Snohomish, WA

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reply to ISurfTooMuch

Re: seems reasonable

But it also could be seen as protecting their exclusivity rights as internet area restrictions rarely work well, obviously wireline systems like U-verse or FiOS serve specific locations. not sure how much TW overlaps with those 2, but I could see restriction on them as well.
Exclusive distribution has been around longer than video entertainment, film, recording and theater companies have always had preferred/exclusive outlets. non-exclusive distribution only came about when cheap reproducible media allowed mass marketing of reproductions.
Broadcast and syndication rights have always been separate and distinct from physical copy sales. ie owning a physical copy does not permit broadcast of public display.

Again, the owner could sell the right to NEVER release a given title, and probably would if the guaranteed return was higher than the likely public return AND the rights the hold permit that

You might see it as a Disney film/show but when you see the credits "a type W production in association with" and so on , is about the complex set of arrangements as to who owns what rights in return for }{ distribution , reproduction, marketing etc. and how much they each get.
Basically so complex they formed the xxIA's to keep track for them, managing disputes and violations.

Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Tulsa, OK

Be easy to fix

Just pass a law granting blanket immunity for consumers to find such content at their own discretion since it's being deliberately withheld from availability.

That means you could download and upload it completely legally.

These contracts would change so fast it would make your head spin.

Of course there's zero chance such a law would ever appear, too.

So once again, Piracy is the only realistic option the market allows to many people.
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini


Chesterfield, MO

Love Free Market

Every business loves the free market (i.e. no regulations) when the context benefits them. Otherwise they do everything in their power to stonewall competitive efforts and welcome regulation that does the same.

Iowa native
Springfield, MA
·Verizon Broadban..

Internet pricing

If it wasn't for their TV cash cow, we'd be paying three times as much for Internet. That is why they discount the Internet when you have TV.

Broadband is expensive because of infrastructure. Then there is not just the infrastructure itself but regulatory compliance, securing right of way clearance, and other costs are the reasons our broadband is expensive. And their pay TV offerings offset those costs.

Somebody has to pay for construction and maintenance of those lines.
I've experienced ImOn (when they were McLeod USA), Mediacom, Comcast, and Time Warner and I currently have DirecTV. They are much better than broadcast TV.

I have not and will not cut the cord.

West Tenness
reply to KrK

Re: Be easy to fix

said by KrK:

Just pass a law granting blanket immunity for consumers to find such content at their own discretion since it's being deliberately withheld from availability.

Just pass a law? Yeah who will be voting for this law? Do you know how laws are even passed in this country?


Binghamton, NY
reply to KrK
said by KrK:

So once again, Piracy is the only realistic option the market allows to many people.

There's another valid option, one that carries with it zero risk of being sued for copyright violations: Don't watch these shows!

We're not talking about food here, we're talking about TV. It is possible to live without it.

as Mr. Pink as they come
Phoenix, AZ
reply to ropeguru

Re: At least...

said by ropeguru:

Comcast does not have to do that for shows on NBC since they own them. But yet another reason content distributors should never be content owners.

its nbc. no biggie. SNF is the only thing i watch on nbc
Despises any post with strings.


Lancaster, PA

Let me get this straight

Viacom, Disney, Sinclair, etc can demand an MSO to carry all stations that they offer at a particular distribution level, but the MSO can't demand those producers limit their availability? And we are ok with this on both sides?

So Disney says you have to carry ABC, ESPN, ESPN2 ABC Family, and god knows what else. ABC has to be carried on basic which all subscribers have. ESPN must be carried on Expanded, which is not as many as Basic but still more then a digital tier. ESPN2 must be carried on a digital Tier, ESPNU can be carried on a sports tier. Disney doesn't care where you place ABC Family, but you got to take it anyway. Disney will give you ABC, ABC Family relatively cheaply, but you are going to pay out the wazoo for ESPN, ESPN2, and ESPNU for every subscriber on that tier regardless if they actually watch that channel or not.

Why can't an MSO say ok, if I got to carry all these stations on a tier and pay you for those customers regardless if they actually watch those channels, you can not offer those channels online?

I really don't see a problem here. Disney makes far more from the MSO's then they'd make from offering these channels online ala carte.
Expand your moderator at work


Austin, TX

Lord Britt, can I please watch some TV?

This is why Lord Britt and his cohorts are lobbying desperately to apply draconian control methods to the Internet.

The Internet has become the last true bastion of free data across planet Earth.

We must storm Lord Britt's castle and raze it to the ground!




MS redux?

Isn't this the sort of business practice that got MS into so much trouble?