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meta
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2013-Jun-14 9:01 am
Participation is irrelevantBecause inter-carrier compensation is changing in the next 5 years, the old telco to telco cash exchange model is going away. The need to keep swapping calls on analog pstn connections is rapidly approaching its death. Many customers are unaware, newer connections between phone providers are crossing the internet at one or more points. Even if the phone on either side is a traditional analog connection or wireless device, the tandem switching providers or inter exchange carriers in the middle between the mobile switching offices and end user telco are often converting the calls to IP, and then passing them between eachother over public IP trunking (the internet).
Guess who has passive optical splitters and communications intercept equipment on major fiber routes between internet exchanges? The NSA does not NEED carrier cooperation to get the content of every phone call. The collection of CDR's (metadata telcos use those call data records for billing, troubleshooting, etc) has sufficient information ABOUT the audio portion captured via another mechanism to corelate back in time should the need or desire arise. Way to find yet another way around those pesky due process procedures like specific warrants! I wish I were that creative, I could have been an evil lawyer for disney or something! |
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delusion ftl
Anon
2013-Jun-14 10:39 am
T-MobileWhat it does sound like though is that a t-mobile to t-mobile call may not be watched/recorded without court orders. |
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tiger72SexaT duorP Premium Member join:2001-03-28 Saint Louis, MO |
tiger72
Premium Member
2013-Jun-14 1:00 pm
Unlikely. T-Mobile doesn't own/operate their own networks. Most T-Mobile traffic is passed through other networks - like Level3 - or over to the PSTN. Under both circumstances, you don't need T-Mobile's participation to listen in on T-Mobile customers. Simply get access to the upstream providers. |
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TMO may not own any dark fiber like ATT or VZ but they could operate on their own leased dark fiber. Something that TMO would not really disclose if they didn't need to. |
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morboComplete Your Transaction join:2002-01-22 00000 |
morbo
Member
2013-Jun-14 1:23 pm
The likely reason this was mentioned by the JournalThe most likely reason this was mentioned by the journal is because the business implications:
1. T-Mobile wants out and will happily be acquired by another provider.
2. Verizon and Vodafone merger or acquisition or whatever that has been in discussion for a while.
The unmentioned goal is that we bring these communications companies in house to simplify and control the information. To do this, the government needs to allow actions like AT&T buying T-Mobile, despite the anti competitive environment it creates. The cover story is that it creates value, which AT&T's own lawyers accidentally made public. |
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KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little Guy Premium Member join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK |
KrK
Premium Member
2013-Jun-17 1:03 am
Irony: When the Patriotic thing to do is avoid US businessIsn't that interesting.... to do the right thing for the US Citizen, you need to avoid using US owned businesses and instead use foreign corporations.
Isn't reality grand. |
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