JimThePCGuyFormerly known as schja01. MVM join:2000-04-27 Morton Grove, IL |
I am appalledHow could something like this happen? What next? Verizon is discovered feeding private information to the NSA? Boy am I glad I chose an "honest" provider. I have ATT. |
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Chris 313Because It's Geekier Premium Member join:2004-07-18 Houma, LA |
Are you kidding? It's just this week's episode of "How the Megacorp can screw the customer?" |
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MrkFrnt join:2000-11-26 Winston Salem, NC |
$2 is the least of the overchargingConsidering it was a $2 minimum, just accidentally hitting the web browser on your phone without a data plan cost $2. We finally had to have Verizon block ALL data from our kids phones. We've been quite happy with T-Mobile for over a year now. |
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Except when I did that, it brought up a screen that says "you need to have a data package on your plan" ... and they charged for the data to tell me that I didn't have a data plan.
As good as Verizon is, after programming the buttons on our phones that all triggered data use and $2 a month whenever someone accidentally pressed one trying to get to the home button, I figure Verizon was interested in just being scummy in their attempts to charge for data.
It should be telling to Verizon that I'm willing to endure sub-par cellular service in order to avoid them. |
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MR DROT
Anon
2013-Jul-2 1:14 pm
Verizon thieveryWhen we have a system where the regulated control the regulators, this is type of result that occurs. Imagine that bank robbers could negotiate with the prosecutors over what small percent of the stolen money should be returned!
The FCC has outlived its usefulness and its only thru the efforts of people like Arthur Belendiuk that these dirty practices come to light and the criminals are called to some measure of accunt. |
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This is not the end.This isn't the last time something like this will happen. There's no oversight on anything relating to data so the door is wide open.
Here's a funny story that wouldn't be so funny if it cost me money: I have several lines of service on Sprint so they still have unlimited data. One of these lines is a smartphone that averages LESS THAN one half GB monthly data usage. Last month the user of that line went to Mexico for most of the month and left his phone behind so I expected the data usage to be miniscule for the month. Instead I saw this on the bill "Sprint 3G Data Unlimited 18,392,560" This is a phone that can't tether, the user doesn't stream video, music or download apps and the phone was off for most of the month.
That's one heck of a glitch that would have cost a lot of money if Sprint charged by the byte! |
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easy answerprepaid... ZERO below the line fees-- even Verizon can't fight this trend towards consumers not wanting to get ripped off...
eventually this market will hit critical mass and that's the ONLY way the consumer market will function.. pay upfront with NO contract, NO subsidy and the handset makers have to face the market forces on what to charge for phones, and by extension so do the carriers. |
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Outraged
Anon
2013-Jul-2 2:12 pm
Legislative & Regulatory Capture = CORRUPTIONThis is Egregious Banditry on the part of Verizon because of the influence, money and lobbying power they have over the FCC. It has become completely acceptable to Congress that industry controls regulators to this level and gets away with not even a slap on the wrist while holding millions of consumers hostage and over-charging them at will and providing misleading information. It bodes peril for this country's middle class which is fast becoming extinct. The FCC's criminal neglect of Verizon's actions is an insult and a slap on the face of tax-paying citizens of this country. |
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firephotoTruth and reality matters Premium Member join:2003-03-18 Brewster, WA |
to MrkFrnt
Re: $2 is the least of the overchargingsaid by MrkFrnt:Considering it was a $2 minimum, just accidentally hitting the web browser on your phone without a data plan cost $2. We finally had to have Verizon block ALL data from our kids phones. We've been quite happy with T-Mobile for over a year now. And don't forget this is from providers who have phones made that have cost incuring features tired to buttons that stick up more than others, data consumed when the big obvious button in the middle is pushed at a time other than to select what is on the screen to do, every button except call and end and the number pad activating an extra feature. Thankfully we just have smartphones mostly now so they can just sell off your analytic date of consumerism to the highest bidder, show you some adverts, all for a low monthly cost of nearly $100 a month. They made the cash cow more virtual and less physical. |
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Smithwick & BelendiukPrepare to meet the IRS. |
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to tmc8080
Re: easy answerThe simple solution to that: Congress today declared all pre-paid cellular plans illegal, citing repeated use by drug cartels, Al-Qaeda, and pedophiles as reasons for passing the "Fighting Unlawful Cellular Knowledge & Youth Online Usage" act. Major carriers, including Verizon and AT&T announced new pricing structures intended to replace "these criminal and dangerous pre-paid plans". |
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elios join:2005-11-15 Springfield, MO |
to Chris 313
Re: I am appalledwell AT&T is at lest up front about screwing you |
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Stumbles join:2002-12-17 Port Saint Lucie, FL |
Really?Verizon lied with the mindset they could careless while intentionally screwing their customers and the FCC has dirty hands?
That's hardly a surprise but at least now there is documentation. Not that anything will change. Such things will simply find a new dark corner to hide until discovered again, move to a different dark corner; rinse and repeat. |
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to JimThePCGuy
Re: I am appalledIm not much of a Conspiracy theorist but this one in my mind completely wreaks of it. I believe the 2 things may be related. Verizon wanted easy way out of this "Billing Problem" they had so they gave up the NSA data no problems and said.. Hey we will keep quite about all this Spying and stuff you have been doing but we would like to make this go away quietly and keep most of the money we made doing it. I don't put anything past anyone. |
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cramer Premium Member join:2007-04-10 Raleigh, NC |
to Dissonance
Re: This is not the end.What is it on other months? Billing isn't remotely real-time, so you could be looking at data from some time before the phone was "off". (or somebody else was using it while he was away) |
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to JimThePCGuy
Re: I am appalledCorporations can engage in an orgy of customer screwing because the government has their collective back. In fact, this is chicken feed compared to Wall Street's takeover of Washington. » en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Re ··· _capture |
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Probitas
Anon
2013-Jul-2 7:31 pm
Class ActionTake them both to court. You can now prove damages and might be able to prove collusion/conspiracy. |
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dillyhammerSTART me up Premium Member join:2010-01-09 Scarborough, ON |
to elios
Re: I am appalledsaid by elios:well AT&T is at lest up front about screwing you Just because they're looking at you while they're giving it to you doesn't make it any less appalling. The problem isn't AT&T. They're just doing what any western telecom company does. Lie, cheat, steal. It's their MO. The problem is the FCC. In our case up here in Canada, the CRTC. Different name. Same douche-baggery. Mike |
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cork1958Cork Premium Member join:2000-02-26 |
cork1958
Premium Member
2013-Jul-2 9:42 pm
I agreeI totally agree with just about every dang post here!!
Verizon, AT&T, the cable company's, etc., are all out for that last ungodly dollar, no matter the cost or consequences!
They are no less dishonest than our very own government though! |
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J AlertMayhem til the AM Premium Member join:2003-03-15 Tuckahoe, NY |
J Alert
Premium Member
2013-Jul-2 10:15 pm
$52M dollar fine for something that generated ~$360M a yearseams totally fair |
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Probitas
Anon
2013-Jul-3 12:11 am
RICOThis could be an option as well. While they may be a business, the RICO act could apply as certainly there was crime committed on massive scale to defaud customers, and this would also bring the hammer down on the CEO's and FCC puppets, as they could be held culpable for aiding and abetting, if it can be proven they knew and did nothing due to a financial incentive. Certainly Verizon heads would roll, as could some at the FCC. I wouldn't feel sympathetic to a 90 year old retired CEO if at some point he profited and awarded himself huge salaries for retirement because of this, I'd let him die in the prison. Serves 'em right. |
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to CrazyFingers
Re: easy answerBecause... Think of the children! |
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From the company that pays no taxes...or better yet pays a negative Federal tax rate (we give them money back) |
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Happy anniversary!Posted on the 123rd anniversary of the Sherman Antitrust Act which completely eliminated corporate monopolies and corruption. How fitting. I do agree with the poster about taking the matter to court. That's the *only* way to prevent corps. from stealing. » twitter.com/jasontaylor7 |
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pawpaw join:2004-05-05 Asheville, NC |
to elios
Re: I am appalledsaid by elios:well AT&T is at lest up front about screwing you Did they tell you they are HIV+? I don't think you are getting the full picture. |
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xNPCAs Usual, Have Nice Day Premium Member join:2000-11-08 Errington, BC |
xNPC
Premium Member
2013-Jul-4 12:41 am
just more broken promisesfrom the company that brought you broken promises in the first place. thanks lowell et al |
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Garst
Anon
2013-Jul-4 3:50 am
Verizon Executives Need to Face Felony ChargesWhat Verizon did is fraud! Its executive need to be arrested and have their sorry [butts] thrown in jail for the maximum sentence! |
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rebus9 join:2002-03-26 Tampa Bay |
to JimThePCGuy
Re: I am appalledsaid by JimThePCGuy:Boy am I glad I chose an "honest" provider. I have ATT. Never forget, the "A" in AT&T stands for anti-christ. They were evil at the deepest levels long before the GTE/BellAtlantic merger that created Verizon. |
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to CrazyFingers
Re: easy answerI like this motto: if it's too high.. don't buy.. I got along quite well without a cell phone throughout most of the '90s and 2000s.. |
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