Docs Detail Lavabit's Battle Against the Government

How lazy

Lazy much?

Apparently they don't have a scanner with OCR?

Pure win.

Awesome response. He complied with the order, then closed shop. Way to stick it to Da Man!

Re: How lazy

Do we need any more reasons to nuke our own government and just start over... this is just getting to the point life on planet earth isn't worth fighting for..

Whens the next asteroid strike?

Seems like he complied with their request

Thats funny! Kind of like paying your taxes in pennies (which they probably wont accept).

Re: Pure win.

Except he eventually lost his business. He did the ethical thing and he had no choice.
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Good for Levison.

In the end, he set an example for the rest of us. Giving in to bullies never makes them go away for long.

Re: Lazy much?

11 pages of a 4 point font even for a nice scanner and top OCR would almost certainly produce errors, which would entail agents having to pour over the whole key anyways, so i'm not sure if it would save time.

Well, good news sort of.

I tend to agree with something crookshanks said recently... and this tends to back it up. If they are demanding the SSL keys, I think it highly unlikely that they have a backdoor or exploit that let's them crack the encryption; at least not very easily.

A lot of times it's not a backdoor into the encryption (except ECC), but rather a known.. undisclosed weakness in a product's implementation of the encryption. Typically that's the difference between FIPS certified and FIPS compliant.

Going Galt

Gotta love it.

Intersting

I always find it interesting how people will use the line if you got nothing to hide then it should be no big deal, but I find it curious how the government hides nearly everything in classified or Top Secret documents.

Interesting isn't it? Shouldn't the same logic apply to our gubment?

Isn't there an intern that can type?

So the US government can build 5 billion dollar data centers to house our "intercepted" data- but they refuse to type in 2500 characters in an SSL key? Seriously, this is absolute garbage - the government surely has thousands of lackeys that make 100k plus a year and live in the suburbs of DC in 800k shacks.

I am happy that he gave them the key in printed format -- he complied with their wishes to hand over private keys, but they refused to transcribe the key into usable format(did you want the info or not?). I am also happy he brought up the fact they he complied to monitor just the user in questions email, but not the entire systems email -- I have said this so many times, as why does every american have to be treated like a terrorist, when we only have to target the "real" terrorists. I can't imagine how much money we would save as a country of tax payers, if we only targeted the "real" terrorists, and not every single american. The way our US Government is operating today, is of a tyrant or bully - we didn't get to vote on a Patriot Act, we didn't get to vote on this Healthcare Act -- we supposedly have Reps and Senators that are supposed to voice our opinion to the federal government. Where were your senators and reps when we had these bills shoved down our throat? Where are they when these bills turn into monsters and are still rammed down the peoples throats to accept?

At this point in my life, I have lost complete faith in the system that was developed for this country, and how it has eroded into a system that goes against our Bill of Rights and Constitutional right to allow politicians and corporations to do as they please. Of course, the silver lining is that these actions are going to lead to eventual reactions by the people.

Re: Well, good news sort of.

Letter of the Law-Two can play this

Kudos to this man for his sacrifice. Just because its inconvenient to process 11 pages of 4 point font does not make it illegible. If that were the case I could say that the govt correspondence with me is illegible because I have issues with reading their 8 point font. It seems its only illegible if it impacts "the man" I wonder what the demand letter said specifically as to the makeup of the document. If it just said to provide an electronic copy then he fulfilled it. Another reason to clean house of the chancres that have invade the govt.

Re: Well, good news sort of.

So you think SSL is fairly easy for them to 'break'?

Variations of it? yes. They have their fingers in the methods of creating the keys which weakens everything but people can if they want make actual secure keys if they make the effort and spend the time. Where time is money, quicker methods prevail and some players in the hardware industry have solutions for faster key creation but there seems to be a hidden cost associated with those.

Trust is earned.
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Privacy

I may not have anything to hide, but I don't live a public lifestyle. What I do is nobody's business unless I want to tell someone. I value my privacy. The government needs to stay out of our lives.

Government Screws the People

This is really a good example of how the government has caused people to lose their jobs. I applaud Lavabit for sticking to their values.

Should have used a Xerox...

... if you recall that bug that added incorrect numbers on the scan...

»abcnews.go.com/Technology/xerox-···19895331


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I feel so much safe now

I feel so much safe that all my emails are being read and all my conversations being monitored. I have nothing to hide. Be patriotic reject the freedom

Re: Letter of the Law-Two can play this

When they complained about it being illegible, he should have sent them another copy in 750 point... one character per page. If they were out of order it was probably the FBI that did it

Re: I feel so much safe now

I like that!!

'Be a TRUE Patriot... Throw Away your Freedom!!'

I want the bumper-sticker.

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Re: Isn't there an intern that can type?

The healthcare act was passed by a supermajority... Wth are you talking about?

Re: Seems like he complied with their request

They might but they don't have to do so.

»www.treasury.gov/resource-center···der.aspx

Re: Isn't there an intern that can type?

Yes - passed by a supermajority that didn't read what they were passing and are now trying to shutdown the government to kill it. If it was THAT fricking important - they should have took their time to go through it properly, instead of this "shutdown the government" crap

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Re: Lazy much?

Much better to pay three secretaries minimum wage for a day to enter the characters and then compare the three documents to identify/correct errors. Done.

Re: Intersting

The government doesn't say it doesn't have things to hide. They admit they're hiding things.