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Comments on news posted 2013-10-03 14:26:34: While FiOS is considered cutting edge, Verizon's provisioned Wi-Fi gateways have long been considerably less so. For some time the only way that FiOS customers could even get anything faster than 802.11g was to buy a 802.11n router from somebody else. ..



BimmerE38FN

join:2002-09-15
Boise, ID
kudos:1

Turn the modems WiFi OFF...

Then connect up a new N or AC AP and your done for those users who still have or need to use this modem.



Smith6612
Premium,MVM
join:2008-02-01
North Tonawanda, NY
kudos:23
Reviews:
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Sounds like..

Most ISP equipment. Each piece of equipment an ISP gives out, I find have some really nice strong points, but there is always something which makes it an undesirable piece of equipment to use. For example, the FiOS routers come packed with some nice power under the hood. Fast CPU, Gigabit (Rev. G, I), lots of RAM, and MoCa. The problem with them is with the low end wireless radio being used, and the firmware bugs. In my books, the ActionTec is worth around $60 with the hardware it has, and for how long it's been out.

But as someone else mentions, shut the Wi-Fi off and hook up your own AP/router (bridged, perhaps). Wireless N routers can be obtained for as little as $30 if it's only intended use is for Wireless, and perhaps as a switch.

Then again, if you use FiOS, why are you playing games with Wireless while expecting that Wireless N link to handle a 150Mbps connection? :P


brianiscool

join:2000-08-16
Tampa, FL
kudos:1

That sucks :(

So, if I move again I get a crummy G router.
Might as well save up for an AC router.



AC Router

@comcast.net
reply to Smith6612

Re: Sounds like..

said by Smith6612:

Then again, if you use FiOS, why are you playing games with Wireless while expecting that Wireless N link to handle a 150Mbps connection? :P

Get an 802.11ac router and use that.

Cloneman

join:2002-08-29
Montreal
kudos:3

Within their right to change pricing

Slow news day?

This is hardly as evil as 95% of the other stuff carriers/providers do. They can charge whatever they want for their crummy router, I don't see a problem with this.



bohratom
Jersey Shore is back again.

join:2011-07-07
Red Bank NJ

1 edit

Sheez, at least Verizon provides free routers

First Verizon provides free routers and also free N routers for those customers that subscribe to 75mbs+ speeds. Very few other providers even offer free routers so to attack Verizon for charging $20 more for N routers to customers with lower internet speed is pretty stupid.

Edit: Free N routers are provided for speeds greater then 100mbs


webcobbler

join:2013-03-09
Rumson, NJ

What? I never got a new Rev I router when I upgraded to 75/35 speed a almost 2 years ago. The rep never mentioned it.

I have a F router, now.

Maybe when my plan is up, I can strike a deal to get it.



FreeBSDuser

join:2013-05-15
Somers, NY
reply to BimmerE38FN

Re: Turn the modems WiFi OFF...

I agree with you.


CarloC

join:2013-08-07
Chevy Chase, MD
reply to bohratom

Re: Sheez, at least Verizon provides free routers

I upgraded to 80Mb and never had a new free router. I asked and they laughed @ me.


CarloC

join:2013-08-07
Chevy Chase, MD
reply to webcobbler

same here


CarloC

join:2013-08-07
Chevy Chase, MD
reply to Smith6612

Re: Sounds like..

Which is the router that can well do the job for $30?
Brand and model please. THXS



bohratom
Jersey Shore is back again.

join:2011-07-07
Red Bank NJ

1 edit
reply to bohratom

Re: Sheez, at least Verizon provides free routers

Correction, should have stated that Verizon provides wireless N router Free for speeds 100mbs+.

»forums.verizon.com/t5/FiOS-Inter···p/467003



IowaCowboy
Want to go back to Iowa
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join:2010-10-16
Springfield, MA
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If FiOS ever comes

If FiOS ever comes or I move to a location where it's available, I'll just run a piece of cat 5 to the ONT to where the router is located, finish it with a wall plate with Ethernet jack and hook up my Apple AirPort Extreme router directly to the ONT since that supports PPPoE networking.

If you can run a phone jack, you can install an Ethernet jack.


djoropallo

join:2003-10-20
Maple Shade, NJ

That's all well and dandy, but their router provides the guide and other info tied into their video packages. When it went down I didn't have any OnDemand. My router isn't at the ONT, it is upstairs in my office where my Comcast modem used to be, using the Coax in. I ran a cat5 cable down to my Samsung Smart TV so I could watch Amazon Prime without buffering, if I add a router I would probably do it there.


webcobbler

join:2013-03-09
Rumson, NJ
reply to bohratom

Re: Sheez, at least Verizon provides free routers

Ahh..

This I already knew about. If one has 150/65 speed tier or greater, they include the GigE router because it has Gigabit Ports and Wireless N. The Rev. F does not.

Also, I believe that they must swap out ones BPON ONT for a GPON , as well.

I just got confused on the 75/35 tier getting these routers.

Thanks for the clarification, though.


tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY

timing

This is at a time when generic dual band N and AC routers are going down in price anywhere from 15 -60%!! Another money grab if its important for you to buy your own router.


BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Wakefield, MA
reply to IowaCowboy

Re: If FiOS ever comes

No pppoe on verizon any more.


BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Wakefield, MA
reply to djoropallo

look in the fios forums , there are better ways to do it now.



Smith6612
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join:2008-02-01
North Tonawanda, NY
kudos:23
Reviews:
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·Frontier Communi..
reply to CarloC

Re: Sounds like..

Access Point: »www.amazon.com/dp/B00134LUE2/ref···0134LUE2

Router: »www.amazon.com/Cisco-Linksys-Ref···S+router

You're not going to be getting anything fancy like dual band or Gigabit ports, but at that price, as long as you're not trying to make the router handle a high tier FiOS connection via NAT (improper way to do it anyways unless you're replacing the ActionTec), the wireless portion alone will work better and faster than the radio in the Rev. I. Leave the ActionTec to do it's job as a wired router, and set up a cheap unit above as your Wireless access point. If you get 150Mbps or faster, or live in a horribly congested area for 2.4Ghz, sure, go up the price ladder a bit more and consider replacing the ActionTec in the process.



batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ

FiOS?

I cannot and never will get FiOS unless I move 1/2 mile to the next CO. On the bright side, I will get FiOS long before I ever get Google Fever.

That was a typo that fits.


elefante72

join:2010-12-03
East Amherst, NY
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
·voip.ms
reply to FreeBSDuser

Re: Turn the modems WiFi OFF...

Lots of mis-information out there. My ancient Rev F had a firmware update that supports Wireless N, it's just not MIMO. Be more specific, the newer ones are MIMO, but since rev F they support Wireless-N.

I added a $15 dlink external antenna, and it covers my entire basement (lots of walls), no problem and chromecast, roku, etc not a hiccup.

I see little reason why you would want to buy one, they are free. The raise in price could be them readying for a modem fee (SP don't usually raise prices unless they are going to introduce a service fee),

but for $99 is is not a bad deal if you use the MoCA component. If not, then for $40 you could get something decent.



alchav

join:2002-05-17
Palm Desert, CA

Verizon 802.11g FiOS Router is all you need!

It has 4 Hardwire Ports, I have moved and set up several Clients into FiOS areas with no problems. Their Desktops are Hardwired and their Laptops are Wireless, sometimes the Printer too. 802.11g works great, what is the problem? With FiOS the best connection is Hardwire, so just deal with it!


Chawk12
Premium
join:2011-12-26
Everett, WA

Guess I lucked out

Got FIOS Frontier a year ago and got the 802.11n. Unlike DSL they don't charge you a rental fee. Not complaining.


McBane

join:2008-08-22
Plano, TX

I got this router for free

When I upgraded my plan from 35/35 to 150/65 they gave me one of these for free. I have 2 older Actiontecs and a Westell as well as this Rev. I that I got all for free. It might have to do with my account being business. I don't even use the wireless on it and use another dual band wireless router which has far superior range for my house.

The range on the rev I. is fine for a smaller house or apartment, but now I live on 1/3rd an acre and it barely covers any of that. They're just now putting out powerful enough routers that will cover most of my property now without using repeaters.



amarryat
Verizon FiOS

join:2005-05-02
Marshfield, MA

Comcast

This is why Comcast advertises that they have the "fastest in home wifi". Because it probably is.


Poohbear001

join:2013-05-24
Wantagh, NY
reply to Chawk12

Re: Guess I lucked out

I too lucked out. 6 months ago when I had a problem w/VOD, the tech gave me a 7232 DVR and a new Rev I router. I have Ultimate TV w/50/25 Internet. My actual wireless speeds are normally 70/45. Obviously, I am not complaining.


brad

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to alchav

Re: Verizon 802.11g FiOS Router is all you need!

said by alchav:

It has 4 Hardwire Ports, I have moved and set up several Clients into FiOS areas with no problems. Their Desktops are Hardwired and their Laptops are Wireless, sometimes the Printer too. 802.11g works great, what is the problem? With FiOS the best connection is Hardwire, so just deal with it!

802.11g works great if you like slow. The newer tech is out there and has been for years. No excuse for the people that want wireless and want faster speeds. Personally I am using 802.11ac gear.


Funnythingis

@75.115.96.x

you can do this...

99% of the time if you call and need a router replaced you will get the gen3 router. Not that it will give you any faster speed if you have anything less then 50Mb/s. There also making up for the rental free router by charging $15 now for a remote replacement.