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Comments on news posted 2013-12-02 11:28:58: Just when you thought that Comcast had found all streams of revenue from advertisement dollars, they have found a new way to raise their profits: Change the Nielson ratings to make Comcast look better. ..

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buzz_4_20
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Dover, NH

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I Still Want To Know

How me not seeing a commercial is a loss of money, ESP since 99% of the time I don't buy those products?

If I being a male don't see a tampon commercial it's still a loss?
This makes no sense to me.
HeadSpinning
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That's why they need to do dynamic commercial insertion based on your viewing habits and the profile they develop of you. Next they'll want you to identify yourself before you watch a TV show so they can target you correctly...

buzz_4_20
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So eventually, will they:
A. Force me to stop watching TV since I don't buy their crap?
B. Discontinue my service for being a "bad" consumer?

Seriously... I pay a premium to not see ads I pay in 2 ways. I pay for amazon prime and other services that don't have ads. the other way I pay is by waiting until shows I want to see are available on those services?

Probitas
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seriously?

Make people not be able to skip commercials. Que the rage.....and the questions about why if commercials are so important why do people pay for access of the broadcast?

n2jtx
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If You Don't Like The Measurement...

...change the measuring stick. If you think you weigh too much, buy a new scale.

Hopefully Nielsen will tell them to go to hell. There is a reason Comcast is euphemistically called Comcrap. They spread it around rather thick. They are as bad as AT&T.

FastForward
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Anon

Stop fast forwarding on DVRd shows; hello TIVO

If Comcast stops fast forwarding of DVRd repeat episodes, then it is goodbye to Comcast's DVR service and their STBs. And hello to Tivo DVRs with their lower cablecard fees.

AD02122013
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ha

how nice... the sheep still follow the shinny sign.

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you need to go to the nearest doc to have a sex change operation, everyone wins
Joe12345678
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Re: Stop fast forwarding on DVRd shows; hello TIVO

and they will jack up the outlet fee.

scott2020
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Re: I Still Want To Know

Soon they won't let you get up to take a leak or get something to eat as to not miss the commercials.

FastForward
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Re: Stop fast forwarding on DVRd shows; hello TIVO

said by Joe12345678:

and they will jack up the outlet fee.

Maybe. But I will still be able to fast forward thru shows.

buzz_4_20
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If they want to see what's really getting watch.

They should start counting Pirated Downloads?

oh wait... those have all the ads stripped out...

But who want's an accurate count of who's watching a show, they just care about being able to set the price of ads. They don't care about the shows, to them shows are just the painfully necessary item needed to show ads during.

That's the sad truth, TV Shows are nothing more than a device to deliver advertising.
b10010011
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I got one word for them... Tivo!

Once it's on my Tivo I can fast forward all I want.

I can even automatically transfer it to my computer, remove the ads and stream it back to the Tivo using all free and open source software.


rit56
join:2000-12-01
New York, NY

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DVR

There would be no point in renting a DVR anymore so they will see "see that's why we need to do this" but in reality there are so many commercials that most shows are unwatchable. Think of all the customers they will lose and all the remaining who drop dvr service.
devolved
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Re: I Still Want To Know

Even if Hulu asks me if the ad I am watching is relevant to me, I click "No" every time.

FastForward
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Re: If they want to see what's really getting watch.

said by buzz_4_20:

That's the sad truth, TV Shows are nothing more than a device to deliver advertising.

That has been true from the 1950s onward. TV has always been a way to deliver advertising and nothing else.

Treegravy
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LOL

Hey Comcast, this give you any idears? :

»www.youtube.com/watch?v= ··· QttzATo8
dfxmatt
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Re: I Still Want To Know

Just download your shows from torrent websites. You get better quality, no commercials, subtitles and don't spend an extra 10 minutes being force-fed things you don't want to buy. 3 shows in an hour or 2 with 20 minutes of ads? You decide.

dvd536
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no FF

dvr goes back to the cable company at light speed!
elefante72
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Re: Stop fast forwarding on DVRd shows; hello TIVO

Once they go to a "cloud DVR" model, you won't really have a choice. The point there will be to monetize you again by controlling the stream and what you see. At that point they could inject ads into the stream like others do and personalize them by a kinect-like device to see who is in the room. Case closed, money made for those who will subject themselves to that level of privacy.

The only remaining barrier will be cablecard, and they are actively trying to kill it.

Note to operators: Nobody in my house will ever watch commercials again, and especially pay for it, so you can't put the genie back in the bottle.

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Re: no FF

Get yourself something like this - »amzn.to/ZdL9nL and take back control. Renting DVRs is a total scam. With Windows Media Center as your base TV-PC, you can add as many 'DVR's as you want with xbox360s on your home network (live TV + DVR) all with just one cablecard.

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Re: LOL

Or the Blipvert episode of Max Headroom.

miataman
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Did you lose any money?

quote:
"The money being lost by people fast-forwarding commercials is in the billions," said Comcast.
Funny, I've not lost any money skipping commercials, I did, however gain some precious time, which is money to me!
WyldeStile
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Re: I Still Want To Know

said by devolved:

Even if Hulu asks me if the ad I am watching is relevant to me, I click "No" every time.

I don't click so they are even more clueless about me.

DeadSurvivor
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Free Cable ...

As longs as commercials "PAY" for my viewing, sure I'll watch commercials but this while per subscriber fee added in with commercial fee's to the networks, I should be able to fast forward through commercials.
TheRogueX
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Re: Stop fast forwarding on DVRd shows; hello TIVO

I can build my own DVR...
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Re: seriously?

Yeah, that's a great question, right? If missed commercials = billions of dollars, then we better damn well see our monthly fees reduced if we actually sit and watch them.

JimMcCoy
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Re: I Still Want To Know

Because the business model was designed to operate with two sources of revenue.

linicx
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Hmmmm

I was orginally going to say Dr. Jakob Neilsen would not allow it, but he is not part of Neilsen Ratings, nor has he ever been.

All things considered, and the number of owners and changes this company has undergone since A.J. formed it, Comcast probably has enough cash to write its own ratings. It seems in America that if one has enough money one can buy anything including a faux rating.

I dropped cable long ago for a better quality picture, more viewing choices, and lower prices. My cable, phone and Dish costs about $124/tax.
BosstonesOwn
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Re: If You Don't Like The Measurement...

Sorry but they are working WITH Nielsen
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