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Comments on news posted 2013-12-02 11:28:58: Just when you thought that Comcast had found all streams of revenue from advertisement dollars, they have found a new way to raise their profits: Change the Nielson ratings to make Comcast look better. ..


buzz_4_20

join:2003-09-20
Limestone, ME

I Still Want To Know

How me not seeing a commercial is a loss of money, ESP since 99% of the time I don't buy those products?

If I being a male don't see a tampon commercial it's still a loss?
This makes no sense to me.
HeadSpinning
MNSi Internet

join:2005-05-29
Windsor, ON
kudos:5

1 recommendation

Re: I Still Want To Know

That's why they need to do dynamic commercial insertion based on your viewing habits and the profile they develop of you. Next they'll want you to identify yourself before you watch a TV show so they can target you correctly...
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buzz_4_20

join:2003-09-20
Limestone, ME
Reviews:
·ObiVoice
·Pioneer Wireless

1 recommendation

Re: I Still Want To Know

So eventually, will they:
A. Force me to stop watching TV since I don't buy their crap?
B. Discontinue my service for being a "bad" consumer?

Seriously... I pay a premium to not see ads I pay in 2 ways. I pay for amazon prime and other services that don't have ads. the other way I pay is by waiting until shows I want to see are available on those services?
devolved

join:2012-07-11
Rapid City, SD
Even if Hulu asks me if the ad I am watching is relevant to me, I click "No" every time.
WyldeStile

join:2004-07-10
Salisbury, NC

Re: I Still Want To Know

said by devolved:

Even if Hulu asks me if the ad I am watching is relevant to me, I click "No" every time.

I don't click so they are even more clueless about me.

scott2020

join:2008-07-20
MO
Soon they won't let you get up to take a leak or get something to eat as to not miss the commercials.
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+++ATH0

KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK

Re: I Still Want To Know

They are setting up a new revenue model. Their plan is always about how to bend you over for more money.

What is coming is the "premium feature" to skip commercials. If you FF or skip commercials, you will have to pay a "premium" to "compensate" their business for the "ad revenue you stole from them."

If you laugh, just you wait.
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"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini

ADdec213

@204.108.96.x
you need to go to the nearest doc to have a sex change operation, everyone wins
dfxmatt

join:2007-08-21
Evanston, IL

2 recommendations

Just download your shows from torrent websites. You get better quality, no commercials, subtitles and don't spend an extra 10 minutes being force-fed things you don't want to buy. 3 shows in an hour or 2 with 20 minutes of ads? You decide.

JimMcCoy

join:2011-08-20
Jacksonville, NC
Because the business model was designed to operate with two sources of revenue.

n2jtx

join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY

If You Don't Like The Measurement...

...change the measuring stick. If you think you weigh too much, buy a new scale.

Hopefully Nielsen will tell them to go to hell. There is a reason Comcast is euphemistically called Comcrap. They spread it around rather thick. They are as bad as AT&T.
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I support the right to keep and arm bears.
BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Wakefield, MA

Re: If You Don't Like The Measurement...

Sorry but they are working WITH Nielsen

FastForward

@comcast.net

Stop fast forwarding on DVRd shows; hello TIVO

If Comcast stops fast forwarding of DVRd repeat episodes, then it is goodbye to Comcast's DVR service and their STBs. And hello to Tivo DVRs with their lower cablecard fees.
Joe12345678

join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL

Re: Stop fast forwarding on DVRd shows; hello TIVO

and they will jack up the outlet fee.

FastForward

@comcast.net

Re: Stop fast forwarding on DVRd shows; hello TIVO

said by Joe12345678:

and they will jack up the outlet fee.

Maybe. But I will still be able to fast forward thru shows.
elefante72

join:2010-12-03
East Amherst, NY
Once they go to a "cloud DVR" model, you won't really have a choice. The point there will be to monetize you again by controlling the stream and what you see. At that point they could inject ads into the stream like others do and personalize them by a kinect-like device to see who is in the room. Case closed, money made for those who will subject themselves to that level of privacy.

The only remaining barrier will be cablecard, and they are actively trying to kill it.

Note to operators: Nobody in my house will ever watch commercials again, and especially pay for it, so you can't put the genie back in the bottle.
TheRogueX

join:2003-03-26
Springfield, MO

Re: Stop fast forwarding on DVRd shows; hello TIVO

I can build my own DVR...

Simba7
I Void Warranties

join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT
"cloud DVR"? Sounds like ala-carte, without being ala-carte.

Just record the shows you want to watch, but pay the regular price for the entire CATV subscription.. even if it's not recorded on your device.

What is the point of cloud DVR again?

intok

join:2012-03-15

1 recommendation

Re: Stop fast forwarding on DVRd shows; hello TIVO

Bittorrent is all the ala carte anyone would ever need.

I'm not opposed to paying, but I'm not paying and watching ads on top of it, if thats the case I refuse to pay.

buzz_4_20

join:2003-09-20
Limestone, ME
Reviews:
·ObiVoice
·Pioneer Wireless

If they want to see what's really getting watch.

They should start counting Pirated Downloads?

oh wait... those have all the ads stripped out...

But who want's an accurate count of who's watching a show, they just care about being able to set the price of ads. They don't care about the shows, to them shows are just the painfully necessary item needed to show ads during.

That's the sad truth, TV Shows are nothing more than a device to deliver advertising.

FastForward

@comcast.net

Re: If they want to see what's really getting watch.

said by buzz_4_20:

That's the sad truth, TV Shows are nothing more than a device to deliver advertising.

That has been true from the 1950s onward. TV has always been a way to deliver advertising and nothing else.
b10010011
Whats a Posting tag?

join:2004-09-07
Bellingham, WA
Reviews:
·Comcast Formerl..

I got one word for them... Tivo!

Once it's on my Tivo I can fast forward all I want.

I can even automatically transfer it to my computer, remove the ads and stream it back to the Tivo using all free and open source software.


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Probitas

@teksavvy.com

seriously?

Make people not be able to skip commercials. Que the rage.....and the questions about why if commercials are so important why do people pay for access of the broadcast?
TheRogueX

join:2003-03-26
Springfield, MO

Re: seriously?

Yeah, that's a great question, right? If missed commercials = billions of dollars, then we better damn well see our monthly fees reduced if we actually sit and watch them.

rit56

join:2000-12-01
New York, NY

DVR

There would be no point in renting a DVR anymore so they will see "see that's why we need to do this" but in reality there are so many commercials that most shows are unwatchable. Think of all the customers they will lose and all the remaining who drop dvr service.

AD02122013

@204.108.96.x

ha

how nice... the sheep still follow the shinny sign.

Treegravy
Premium
join:2011-04-21
canada
Reviews:
·Rogers Hi-Speed

LOL

Hey Comcast, this give you any idears? :

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4jQttzATo8

RARPSL

join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY

Re: LOL

Or the Blipvert episode of Max Headroom.

dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4

no FF

dvr goes back to the cable company at light speed!
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CableCard

@embarqhsd.net

Re: no FF

Get yourself something like this - »amzn.to/ZdL9nL and take back control. Renting DVRs is a total scam. With Windows Media Center as your base TV-PC, you can add as many 'DVR's as you want with xbox360s on your home network (live TV + DVR) all with just one cablecard.
BiggA

join:2005-11-23
EARTH

Re: no FF

MCE sucks. Get a TiVo. They're awesome.

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miataman

join:2010-10-27
Chelmsford, MA
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS

Did you lose any money?

quote:
"The money being lost by people fast-forwarding commercials is in the billions," said Comcast.
Funny, I've not lost any money skipping commercials, I did, however gain some precious time, which is money to me!
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New England Tel. " Iron Men and Iron Wire"

DeadSurvivor
Shattered Dreams
Premium
join:2013-09-03
Tampa, FL

Free Cable ...

As longs as commercials "PAY" for my viewing, sure I'll watch commercials but this while per subscriber fee added in with commercial fee's to the networks, I should be able to fast forward through commercials.

linicx
Caveat Emptor
Premium
join:2002-12-03
United State
Reviews:
·TracFone Wireless
·CenturyLink

Hmmmm

I was orginally going to say Dr. Jakob Neilsen would not allow it, but he is not part of Neilsen Ratings, nor has he ever been.

All things considered, and the number of owners and changes this company has undergone since A.J. formed it, Comcast probably has enough cash to write its own ratings. It seems in America that if one has enough money one can buy anything including a faux rating.

I dropped cable long ago for a better quality picture, more viewing choices, and lower prices. My cable, phone and Dish costs about $124/tax.
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Mac: No windows, No Gates, Apple inside

Simba7
I Void Warranties

join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT

Another made-up figure

said by "Comcast" :

The money being lost by people fast-forwarding commercials is in the billions

Yet another made-up figure. Billions of dollars? I wish I could make up a figure like that and get away with it.

vobguy
A fool with a tool is still a fool
Premium
join:2003-01-21
Mineral, VA

Personally I usually do not fast forward through ads

I don't really mind most commercials. I usually don't fast forward through ads, but I do if the commercials fall into one or more of the following categories:

1) LOUD - I don't want to wakeup the whole house (most of the music based commercials, like for Apple products,and now many other tablets/phones, usually fall into this category)

2) Obnoxious/Annoying

3) Repetitive (heavy rotation of a particular commercial)

If there weren't so many obnoxious , annoying or loud commercials out there, I wouldn't use my fast forward hardly at all. I may sit through 4 , 5, 6 commercials in a row, but if an annoying one pops up, that is it, I skip pass the rest.
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A happy customer of Millenicom.com - so far.

Probitas

@teksavvy.com

I have a question

Do Nielsen families pay for their TV services or is that a 'perk' for allowing their viewing to be tracked?

Re: I have a question

I'm wondering the same thing because I actually got a random letter from Neilsen the other day that seems to want us to become a "Nielsen family." If they're going to pay for my TV, I'm all for it. If not... then what's the point?