dvd536as Mr. Pink as they come Premium Member join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ |
dvd536
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2013-Dec-30 9:08 am
NSAwhat they have access to, HACKERS also have access to! |
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openbox9 Premium Member join:2004-01-26 71144 |
openbox9
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2013-Dec-30 9:19 am
So do you, technically. |
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UmmmI'd like to see this 50 page catalog.
I bet you've got a surge coming if your firewall company isn't listed. |
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gaforces (banned)United We Stand, Divided We Fall join:2002-04-07 Santa Cruz, CA 1 edit |
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Re: NSAWondering if the Target breach has anything to do with this ... Looks like damages if so. There has been a large amount of company's in the US hacked, and it seems unlikely that so many business' would have unpatched servers.
Throw all those company's under the bus, just to catch an old man? |
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treich
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2013-Dec-30 10:37 am
this is why you want to create your own stuffThis is why you want to use linux based software..... |
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1 recommendation |
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to gaforces
Re: NSAMost of these retailers all use the same type of POS systems, and in some cases, from the same POS vendor, so a likely attack against one, would be successful against others. |
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Re: this is why you want to create your own stuffWhich will make no difference since the random number generator used in linux (and I think to some extent some of the BSDs) is based on the NIST RNG guidance, which if rumours are to be believed, is also not safe. |
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treich
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2013-Dec-30 11:14 am
it depends on what linux you run also because Linus Torvalds said there is NO BACKDOORS in linux and even the NSA asked him if they can install backdoors in linux and he said NO. |
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SarickIt's Only Logical Premium Member join:2003-06-03 USA |
Sarick
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2013-Dec-30 1:13 pm
This is why they put it directly into in the hardware. |
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Linux updates can be used to install gov spyware and I'm sure this is included in that 'catalog'
If you want to be almost completely 'safe' it is better to use a livecd linux like knoopix in a diskless old motherboard computer. When you turn off the computer everything is gone... well everything except for the BIOS and possible hidden storage devices inside new motherboards. |
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MaynardKrebsWe did it. We heaved Steve. Yipee. Premium Member join:2009-06-17 |
On a personal level...at this point in time I'd probably throw my trust in with a Chinese-hacked motherboard, BIOS, disk drive, and network gear as the Chinese don't have a vested interest in using ALL the information they can gather against me at some future date, unlike some over zealous US Gubbmit attorney - should I commit any Pre-Crime thoughts. |
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Anon
2013-Dec-30 4:27 pm
say what you want about HuaweiBut I bet they DON'T work with the NSA. So while they may spy on you, it won't have any effect on your life in the USA. Maybe we should ALL buy Huawei. |
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True... the lesser of two evils. |
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cramer Premium Member join:2007-04-10 Raleigh, NC Westell 6100 Cisco PIX 501
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cramer
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2013-Dec-30 5:06 pm
"back door"?Someone needs to send them a dictionary. What they've described are not "back doors" (code specifically placed in a system to allow access), but are all hacks and exploits used to shoe-spoon their payload into the system. This isn't new; it's been going on for decades. You too can play with this sort of "toy" by downloading metasploit. The NSA, obviously, has better toys, but they aren't unique.
Also, does anyone else find it cute they have "back doors" into Huawei tech? The very people they accuse of placing backdoors for the chinese government. "We know you installed backdoors, because we're using them!" |
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openbox9 Premium Member join:2004-01-26 71144 |
to gaforces
Re: NSAOften times ignorance is the culprit. Remember a few years ago when at least some Best Buy stores processed in-store transactions wirelessly, unencrypted? |
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openbox9 |
to MaynardKrebs
Re: On a personal level...said by MaynardKrebs:Chinese don't have a vested interest in using ALL the information they can gather against me at some future date You know that? |
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Re: "back door"?said by cramer:What they've described are not "back doors" (code specifically placed in a system to allow access), but are all hacks and exploits used to shoe-spoon their payload into the system. But that doesn't make for as juicy of a headline. |
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CamaroQuestion everything Premium Member join:2008-04-05 Westfield, MA |
Camaro
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2013-Dec-31 10:36 am
Crazy ideaInstead of spending crazy money on developing all these attack tools, how about figuring out to secure our own networks here in the USA before attacking other networks around the world and getting hacked because someone forgot to patch a system. |
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ackman join:2000-10-04 Atlanta, GA |
to MaynardKrebs
Re: On a personal level...The Communist Chinese are the FIRST ones who would look to benefit from any stolen information. The NSA isn't far behind them. |
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Re: Crazy ideaBecause offensive weapons generate much more revenue and are easier to justify, because of the "unknown threats" they allegedly seek. |
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Anon
2014-Jan-1 8:53 am
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Re: NSAthat is correct |
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