Comments on news posted 2013-12-30 11:44:30: Forbes takes a look at the growing list of things that have come out of Sprint's corporate mouth (particularly CEO Dan Hesse) that increasingly aren't true. ..
Sprint lost its way long ago. About the time it inadvisedly Borg'd Nextel. It is now essentially indistinguishable from Verizon and the thing that calls itself "at&t," only with much, much poorer coverage than either.
Two or three years ago it started to look like Sprint was getting its mojo back. "Network Vision" and all that. But, no: Not really. NV's rollout has disappointed, particularly for the millions of customers, like me, who actually experienced worse network performance, rather than better, once NV came to town. All they have left to distinguish them from the Big Two is unlimited data. But what does that matter when their network performance is so lousy? Never mind the fact that the vast majority of wireless customers neither need nor want unlimited data, anyway.
Worse coverage, more limited device selection and just as expensive as the Big Two. What's to like? And, to add insult to injury: They're not even a U.S. company any more.
Now they want to Borg the one wireless carrier that's being the disruptive wireless player they used to be? I certainly hope not!
Don't Believe The Things Coming Out of Sprint's Mouth
I think this is a product of the Softbank acquisition. I've heard from other message boards Softbank is more involved in daily operations than expected. Could his inaccuracies mean Dan is loosing control to an extent?
Softbank/Sprint have to get rid off T-mobile ASAP. Without that, they are going into chapter 11. For ATTea and Verizon, TMO is a big nuissance. For Sprint,TMO is a disaster. Sprint's performance is so miserable and their prices so high that they cannot survive in a competitive environment. BTW if Forbes criticizes Sprint, that's really something, since they are as pro big corporate as one can get.
when Sprint can't pay the piper? Sprint must grow at least 5% market share in the next 5 years and they aren't making any headway to a ROI. Much like the MCI WorldCom ceo convicted of fraud, Sprint will have some 'splanin' to do for not focusing on the primary targets of AT&T and VERIZON customers. To peel those customers away, they need more than 2000 major towns covered with towers & the latest 4g/lte upgrades outside their current footprint (and fix the ones that SUCK within) while improving the QOS.
If you want to see another dubious scheme in action, here you go..
I'll add my agreement as well. I have been with Sprint a little over two years since my employer switched me to their plan and starting paying the bills. Prior to that, I was happily with T-Mobile for six years. Sadly, right from the get go, Sprint speeds were lousy and we were always told, six more months. I am still waiting. Frankly I would like to go back to T-Mobile but not if Sprint is bound and determined to destroy it. Besides that, my Sprint iPhone 4S is off contract and they will not fully unlock it. They have said it cannot be done, or it is their policy to never unlock it or whatever new story they can come up with. Even the recent CTIA/FCC unlocking agreement appears to be going nowhere.
The best thing Sprint could do right now is just go away, fix themselves and relaunch when they finally figure out what they want to be when they grow up. -- I support the right to keep and arm bears.
Sounds to me like T-Mobile should take over Sprint. Yes they are smaller, but the current management of TMUS is competent and executing the network overhaul with vigor. Everything is on schedule. I keep seeing more refarmed 3G. Relatives keep seeing more LTE.
Even EDGE coverage feels more reliable now, dont know why. Calls sound better.
Softbank/Sprint have to get rid off T-mobile ASAP. Without that, they are going into chapter 11. For ATTea and Verizon, TMO is a big nuissance. For Sprint,TMO is a disaster.
I think you nailed it. This has been on my mind, as well.
It's really the only thing that makes sense. TMO has little coverage outside the areas that Sprint has coverage, so it's certainly not footprint. The technologies are incompatible, anyway. Being in the middle of their own network upgrade, I'm hard put to see how they'd expect to convert T-Mobile towers over to NV CDMA towers in a decent time-frame. Hell, they're not even keeping up with their NV schedule.
Only answer is: Eliminate a competitor who, by doing what they used to do, is eating their lunch.
If this is what's happening: They're dreaming if they think regulators won't figure it out. "at&t" is far better at baffling with BS than Sprint, and they couldn't pull it off.
Hopefully, if true, TMO has arranged for a nice breakup fee again. The cash infusion, when this, too, goes south, will be nice for TMO and its customers
Even EDGE coverage feels more reliable now, dont know why. Calls sound better.
That's because T-Mo uses the full-rate codec on the GSM parts of their network, only falling to half-rate when necessary for capacity reasons, which is relatively rare on the T-Mo network. AT&T used to force everybody to half-rate, even in markets with ample voice capacity. The difference was telling when you did a side-by-side comparison.
Not sure which CDMA voice codec Sprint uses. The old ones couldn't compete with GSM full-rate, it wasn't even close. The newer ones are a lot better, at least on Verizon, I have a hard time discerning the difference these days between Verizon and T-Mo.
Of course, POTS landlines (full-duplex, uncompressed) blow both of them out of the water, though this may change with VoLTE and high-bandwidth codecs, if (big if, given the ongoing wireless bandwidth crunch) the carriers choose to enable them.
It's definitely not amazing for T-Mobile everywhere. Our market barely has HSPA coverage, EDGE is significantly less reliable than 1X on Sprint, and zero T-Mobile LTE. Sprint has LTE over most of the area already.
I will say the T-Mobile has the hype train going for it. Everyone is loving on T-Mobile, even people who don't have T-Mobile. You generally get more for your money with T-Mobile, especially if you are in an area with real coverage. I hope they can sustain that and also continue to upgrade areas and expand coverage. Shareholders will be the obstacle there. -- to whoever anonymously gave me premium membership... thanks!
The difference being, this time, the words are basically coming from Masayoshi Son's mouth.
He's got big plans for Sprint.
I'm the first to admit Sprint has a long ways to go in general coverage, but have you been to an area that has been fully or almost fully converted to LTE 1900 yet? With a Sprint LTE phone? I'd say a HUGE improvement from the old network. Once they finish conversion of all the old sites things should improve.
They have TONS of site optimizing to be done still to help with drops and blocks.
I know it's been said ad nauseum in the past, but good things are coming.
The technologies are incompatible, anyway. Being in the middle of their own network upgrade, I'm hard put to see how they'd expect to convert T-Mobile towers over to NV CDMA towers in a decent time-frame. Hell, they're not even keeping up with their NV schedule.
Network wise, Sprint could integrate T-Mobile pretty easily. NV complete towers essentially have everything needed already there. This isnt 2001 anymore. -- Usenet Block Accounts | Unlimited Accounts
Yes they could but much of that NV is still limited and half out there. A good share of the country has nothing for NV. Until they can finish NV this would be horrible for a customer stand point. Sprint "techs" won't know crap about GSM and that would be the first thing that goes, the CSRs at TMO and outsourced out of country.
Yes they could but much of that NV is still limited and half out there. A good share of the country has nothing for NV.
You prove time and time again you dont know what you are talking about.
Just over 31,000 of sprints 40,000 towers have been touched for an upgrade in one form or another and the other upgrades are pending but need backhaul (can be a wait depending on the vendor), hardware, heck, even a tower crew which are already stretched thin as it is since all carriers are doing upgrades right now. -- Usenet Block Accounts | Unlimited Accounts
Sprint "techs" won't know crap about GSM and that would be the first thing that goes
The funny thing about this statement that makes it not true is this: (almost)All new gen cell sites are simply fiber and data in the cabinets. What comes out of the antenna end is virtually inconsequential to a field tech. All that is needed to add a new service is another shelf, radios on the towers and antennas. Legacy technologies are going bye-bye. It used to be that when you opened up a cell site, you'd see nothing but coax, amps, radios, filters, etc....now it's a router and a few interconnected pieces of equipment linked via fiber.
And why the ill-will towards "techs" ? If you'd like to be angry at anyone, be angry at management.
If you read the DOJ statement on the AT&T attempt to buy T-Mobile the DOJ said 4 carriers are needed due to Verizon and AT&T controlling 80% of the wireless market.
And that denial happened at time when T-mobile was being mismanaged and with no real strategy to turn things around. Now imagine if the DOJ says it's bringing a lawsuit against Softbank/Sprint today to stop them from buying T-Mobile. All they have to do is copy paste all the articles and data showing what T-Mobile is doing.
And the fact that AT&T, Verizon and Sprint have copied T-Mobile's moves.
Analysts are already fearing the Uncarrier 4.0. I read the other day one saying T-Mobile is going to open Pandora's box if it starts to pay ETF fees to get people to move over.