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Comments on news posted 2014-01-24 16:20:03: After years of being one of the very least transparent companies when it came to cooperation with government spying, Verizon last month announced they'd finally be issuing publicly-available reports highlighting the requests the company gets from law.. ..



McShaken
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Olympia, WA

1 recommendation

Now we know!

So NOW we know who the Verizon guy checks in with to make sure their signal is clear - the NSA. Perfect.



IowaCowboy
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Data useful in many ways

Useful by police for anything from locating runaway teens, persons in danger, to locating wanted fugitives.

Useful by lawyers in divorce cases (we all remember Tiger Woods and his mistresses).

Useful by prosecutors as it places criminals at the scene of the crime.

I'd like to see the Patriot act amended to require that customers show ID and telecom carriers collect certain identifying information when someone activates a telecom service like they do with bank accounts. It's about protecting public safety. Some prepaid phones collect no identifying info at all or let you use a fake name.

People may think I'm crazy but when you live in a city that's high crime with 20 murders a year you have to support efforts to protect public safety.
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PlusOne

@comcast.net

said by IowaCowboy:

People may think I'm crazy but when you live in a city that's high crime with 20 murders a year you have to support efforts to protect public safety.

You think 20 murders a yr is high?

Try these cities:
»www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2···ies.html

clone

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reply to IowaCowboy

This is such a troll. This is flamebait of the worst sort, and I know I shouldn't even bother replying to someone with such a childlike view of the government and the world, but sometimes it's just too damned easy.

The government is not our "daddy". They are not here to protect us. The telecoms are here to provide a service. They are not here to be the all-seeing snitch-eye for "daddy". People who wish to see the telephone network exploited for divorce lawyers and enforcing mandatory identifcation? See exhibit 1: vomit in my mouth a little.

There are hundreds of countries on this planet where this type of totalitarian utopia exists for the weaklings, those who would rather be blissfully ignorant slaves than be actual actors in the game of life, please leave ours alone. We're all liberty has left, and people like you are drowning her. Sometimes people get hurt, sometimes people get killed, it's life brother. Get used to it, man up, grow up. I just couldn't imagine how terrifying it must be to live in your little world as a man-child, who calls 911 weekly for daddy to save him, scared of his own shadow, scared of "terrorists" and "criminals". It's no way to live. I couldn't fathom it.

Please read a history book and see how your utopia always ends up. And read some crime statistics and realize that 20 murders a year isn't "high crime" by any means. Go outside. Go for a walk in a park. Go to a bar and talk to a girl. Realize that real life really isn't that scary and there's no need for the nanny state to keep you safe.



PlusOne

@comcast.net
reply to IowaCowboy

said by IowaCowboy:

People may think I'm crazy but when you live in a city that's high crime with 20 murders a year you have to support efforts to protect public safety.

And if you just look at murder rates vs total # of murders! Springfield is way behind at 7.12/100,000. »lawstreetmedia.com/blogs/crime/1···s-small/

Here are the murder rate leaders in US:
Flint, Mi 64.9/100,000 #1
....
....
Memphis, TN 24.1/100,000 #10

»www.policymic.com/articles/22686···ies-2012

clone

join:2000-12-11
Portage, IN

I'd love to live in Springfield, MA. Sounds beautiful compared to where I'm from:

»www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Ga···ana.html



IowaCowboy
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reply to clone

I live my life every day in fear. I had a traumatic adolescence but that is something I don't want to talk about. But it does affect the way I think and I have to take meds for it.

But I don't trust the government but I do support the efforts of our police, fire, and EMS. But I do think the NSA should be reformed like everybody else on DSLR. I trust the Massachusetts state government as much as I trust the guy who sold me the piece of junk used car.
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I have not and will not cut the cord.



Noah Vail
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reply to IowaCowboy

said by IowaCowboy:

More Data for cops, lawyers, prosecutors and everyone but citizens.

More Patriot Act. Gov needs to know whatever they don't already know about all of us.

People may think I'm crazy but you must forfeit your right to privacy because CRIME
PUBLIC SAFETY
CRIME CRIME CRIME CRIME CRIME

The thing your advocating is a Surveillance State.

Allow me to introduce you to something new.
said by Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution :

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized

You want to surveil me? Come back with a warrant.
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IowaCowboy
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It seems everything is under surveillance these days, not just by government but by private business aiding government.

When my grandmother broke her hip Sunday night, when we wanted to accompany her in the emergency room at Baystate Medical Center we had to show our government issued IDs to the security guard, who then scanned them and issued us visitor badges.

Not to mention you go into any Walmart or convenience store and there are more surveillance cameras there then in a Vegas casino. So it's not just government spying on us but private businesses as well. And there are some business I wish did not have my information.

Just today I received a postcard that a former health plan that I used to belong to suffered a data breach and I'm getting credit monitoring (you didn't hear that in the news). I'm starting to trust private businesses even less than the government (not that I trust the government that much to begin with) with my private information after several high profile data breaches.

I'm just hoping the police can track down those responsible for the data breaches.

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I've experienced ImOn (when they were McLeod USA), Mediacom, Comcast, and Time Warner and I currently have DirecTV. They are much better than broadcast TV.

I have not and will not cut the cord.


nonymous
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Glendale, AZ
reply to IowaCowboy

said by IowaCowboy:

Useful by police for anything from locating runaway teens, persons in danger, to locating wanted fugitives.

Useful by lawyers in divorce cases (we all remember Tiger Woods and his mistresses).

Useful by prosecutors as it places criminals at the scene of the crime.

I'd like to see the Patriot act amended to require that customers show ID and telecom carriers collect certain identifying information when someone activates a telecom service like they do with bank accounts. It's about protecting public safety. Some prepaid phones collect no identifying info at all or let you use a fake name.

People may think I'm crazy but when you live in a city that's high crime with 20 murders a year you have to support efforts to protect public safety.

Ok you are hopefully sarcastic and special. Our lifes are tracked enough without adding to it. Criminals will find a way around all. Thing is the tracking takes innocents into the mess.

nonymous
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reply to clone

said by clone:

Please read a history book and see how your utopia always ends up.

Which one?

clone

join:2000-12-11
Portage, IN

This one is pretty telling:

»www.barnesandnoble.com/w/stasi-j···00922944


nonymous
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Glendale, AZ

Just requested through library for pickup.



CarterStC

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reply to IowaCowboy

Seriously???


System
reply to IowaCowboy

This topic has been closed. Reason: run its course



Cheese
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Naples, FL
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Hmmm

Hmmm



kmt5150

@comcast.net

Murders? HA!

I am a proud battle-scarred resident of Flint, MI and I'm here to tell you, the government doesn't give a flying fuck about our safety. If they did, we would have more than 10 city police officers. Anyone who says 20 murders is high should come here in the summer time. You'd shit kittens as you're running away to your utopia.